5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

In the meantime I ask Google.

 

Actually there is nothing what they could buy somewhere else:

 

machinery, mineral oils and fuels, industrial machinery, iron & steel, precious stones & metals, and plastics

 

You need to take one more step and run your AI through a grammar checker.  Because it doesn't make sense.

The thinking is so muddled here and all in support of protecting “special” (wealthy) pinterests. Have to wonder how Vietnam and Indonesia managed the 0% tariffs on US imports … both members of ASEAN. Thai’s abhor a level playing field. 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

You need to take one more step and run your AI through a grammar checker.  Because it doesn't make sense.

That's Google. Sorry, that I can't help you. Maybe try "Google translate" and your language.

8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's Google. Sorry, that I can't help you. Maybe try "Google translate" and your language.

 

Sure you can.  Think for yourself instead of parroting Google, the most recent proof that Garbage in -> Garbage out.  (as if we needed more proof).

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Sure you can.  Think for yourself instead of parroting Google, the most recent proof that Garbage in -> Garbage out.  (as if we needed more proof).

What language do you speak?

Is it Gobbledygook?😂

1 hour ago, MarkBR said:

Wonder whether switching to carnaroli risotto rice might be more profitable.  Still rice, so same expertise but has high price.  The major cost would be transport to markets in Europe, specifically Italy.  Might be more profitable.

Good point. It's a creative idea and I think the same applies to the growing of fruits like lychee and durian. There are certain varieties that seem to command a huge premium, they would certainly be worth seeking out. 

It's very, very difficult to defend Thailand when it comes to tariffs, as they are fairly mindless with regard to the use of tariffs, and they have absolutely no as to how damaging it is to their economy and their tourism industry. 

 

Having said that I like the idea of a nation standing up to the US, and Trump's ridiculously arrogant and erroneous tariff policies. After all according to many economists what made the American economy so great since World War II, was the lack of tariffs. It created the largest and most dynamic economy in the world amongst a few other factors. There is no doubt that Trump's policies and idiocy are going to are going to end up shrinking the US economy. 

...Sounds Like No Skimming Possibilities With Zero Tax... (?)

 

...4.5 Billion Pounds....Much Better For That...(?)

 

...And Keeping Their Firm Grip On The Farmers' Gonads... (?)

 

...Sad

Hilarious "solutions" by the  average geriatric expat panel of social refugees !

In another 2 years or less the USA will be relegated to try hard status as the rest of the world it screwed over moves on and away. 

Enjoy.

13 hours ago, ozz1 said:

The problem is they think that the world needs Thailand but it doesn't there is a lot of markets selling the same

Same as the US.

They think that the world needs USA but it doesn't there is a lot of markets selling the same

13 hours ago, stubuzz said:

If farmers need loans to continue, their business models cannot be sustainable.

Your average Thai farmer is already in debt to the BAAC ,a government backed bank for the farmers and farming co-op's, with the prices farmers are getting they is not much chance of the business model being sustainable, corn farmers in my area are losing they  crops due to no rain, a few crops that ae being harvested the price is not enough to make any money .

I would say these soft loans would be though the BAAC ,so not a lot of change they.

Remember Thai farmers, bar rice farmers, like farmers in our country's do not get any government subsidies

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Hilarious "solutions" by the  average geriatric expat panel of social refugees !

In another 2 years or less the USA will be relegated to try hard status as the rest of the world it screwed over moves on and away. 

Enjoy.

 

Yeah right, let's come back in 2 years and see how this plays out.

 

US is around 30% of global GDP and it has solid geopolitical allies (despite current posturing) in the Anglosphere, EU, Japan & Middle East, that make up another 30% or so. 

 

These tariffs are impacting only the 18% of US economy linked to goods, the other 82% is services based.

 

The only current economic competitor is China, with around 20% of global GDP, 5x the population of US and a misfiring economy. We can see how they treat their "friends" with their massive trade surplus with a poorer country in Thailand.

19 hours ago, webfact said:

 

 

As diplomatic channels operate, Thailand continues to prioritise its domestic economy. Julaphan emphasised that maintaining the livelihoods of the private sector and farmers is paramount, along with safeguarding these sectors against adverse trade negotiations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Horse Crap! This is about protecting Chinese businesses inside Thailand, and protecting Thailand's true master...

15 hours ago, stubuzz said:

If farmers need loans to continue, their business models cannot be sustainable.

 

The amusing thing is that the only loans they can obtain are for purchasing fertilizer.  

 

Does anyone see a problem here?

 

 

9 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Only their votes; after that, they are nothing more than serfs.

 

This is why the People's Party is kicking PT assets.  PTP have always counted on the poor, uneducated farmer for support.  Now that poor, uneducated farmer are seeing things through the eyes of their tech-savvy kids and finding out that they're getting screwed by Thaksin.

41 minutes ago, TDCNINJA said:

 

Horse Crap! This is about protecting Chinese businesses inside Thailand, and protecting Thailand's true master...

 

You are close. But China is not helping Thailand; look at all the businesses that are closing and international companies that are moving.

 

Want further proof? Elephant pants. 

13 hours ago, Bannoi said:

The US does grow a lot of rice they export about half of it.

Not sure the Japanese consumer wants it though. Japanese rice is quite different to other rice. And Thailand has quite a bit of its own. That’s why it exports so much!

9 hours ago, JustinTyme said:

You mean, why does wine from Australia. 5,000 KM ++ from Thailand, that then has to pass customs, be put on trucks, and distributed to retail operations in Thailand cost more than it does in Australia?  Plus ... Thailand does charge VAT (Value Added Tax) on Australian wines, along with other taxes and duties upon import. The standard VAT rate in Thailand is 7%. Additionally, imported wines are subject to various other taxes, including excise taxes, municipal taxes, and health taxes. So, are you SURE " the importer charging whatever he feels like??" 555!!

(Pro Tip - "Google is your friend" )

 

 

Looking at shipping costs etc, i say your answer is complete <deleted>.

6 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

 

You are close. But China is not helping Thailand; look at all the businesses that are closing and international companies that are moving.

 

Want further proof? Elephant pants. 

Show me where in my post I said China is helping Thailand...

My rice farming wife tells me the government has reduced the standard subsidy from tb1000 per rai down to tb500 per rai, with a 10-rai maximum per farmer.  And the government will subsidize the purchase of fertilizer by tb500 per bag (10 bags max), providing they submit receipts.  We haven’t heard of any loans to farmers per se. 

5 hours ago, moose7117 said:

 

 

Looking at shipping costs etc, i say your answer is complete <deleted>.

Australian wine prices in Thailand are generally higher than in Australia due to taxes and import costs. While free trade agreements have reduced tariffs, high excise taxes in Thailand still significantly inflate the retail price of imported wine. I think what you are missing here is that the original conversation was about retailers price gouging consumers.  I am not saying that Australian wine is not more expensive here than in Oz, I am saying the price difference is via lots of price increasing variables BEFORE a retailer even gets their hands on a bottle.  If you are talking about the price of wine in a restaurant or bar, then you simply have no understanding of the hospitality business and alcohol pricing models, which at the 4 star + level are often 100% (or more) mark up.  If you are going to cherry pick ONLY shipping costs, then let me wish you a nice day and let's just end this thread.

11 hours ago, TDCNINJA said:

This is about protecting Chinese businesses inside Thailand, and protecting Thailand's true master...

 

 

Here

On 7/23/2025 at 7:35 AM, stubuzz said:

If farmers need loans to continue, their business models cannot be sustainable.

Introduce loans which they can't pay, then buy them out and they become slaves on what was once theirs 

6 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Not sure the Japanese consumer wants it though. Japanese rice is quite different to other rice. And Thailand has quite a bit of its own. That’s why it exports so much!

Often if exporting, they would need to grow the variety that the proposed market wishes - traditional tastes are very specific.  But if it generates more profit it is worth considering.  I mentioned an example earlier about investigating the growing of carnaroli rise which is a high value quality rice used for risotto.  Obviously, if exported out of thailand then transport costs must be factored in.   Some rice varieties might make a bigger profit than Thai varieties if grow on a large enough scale for export.

USA should hit them with a 40% tariff that my get them to move along.

On 7/24/2025 at 9:38 AM, kingstonkid said:

 

 

Here

 

Nope. Attention to detail. No where did I say China is helping Thailand

4 minutes ago, TDCNINJA said:

 

Nope. Attention to detail. No where did I say China is helping Thailand

To me when you say "protecting Chinese businesses inside Thailand" that says that Thais are protecting chinese as we know very little of the profit stays in thailand

On 7/22/2025 at 4:39 PM, vangrop said:

Thailand with their exuberant import taxes. Donald Trump made a wake up call for the Thais. 

You might say that the Thai government is exuberant over their exorbitant tax rates. You're welcome.

On 7/23/2025 at 5:55 AM, watchcat said:

Do they really care about the poor farmers?

Not one bit, after decades the farmers are still poor.

But the middle men are rich

25 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Not one bit, after decades the farmers are still poor.

But the middle men are rich

And the HiSo elites getting even richer.