3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

It left Gaza 20 completely years ago, then was continually attacked by hamas

No they didn’t. Gaza was a concentration camp, Israel controlled nearly everything. Even Netanyahu helped Hamas get control.

Just now, Chris.C said:

No they didn’t. Gaza was a concentration camp, Israel controlled nearly everything. Even Netanyahu helped Hamas get control.

 

If you believe Hamas propaganda

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

Absolutely spot on Captor, but Hamas sees the hostages as bargaining tools and without them they basically have nothing.

Do you think Israel would pull out if they got the hostages?

 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Israel left Gaza like the Nazis left the Warsaw ghetto.  They just controlled everything going in and everything coming out.

 

Yet another Anti Israeli referencing the Nazis 

You are all at it

   Anyway , Not true .

Egypt controlled the border in the south of Gaza  

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

If you believe Hamas propaganda

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Just now, Chris.C said:

Do you think Israel would pull out if they got the hostages?

 

 

   Not now, no 

Not after October 7 th .

The days of trying to live a peaceful existence are over .

Palestinians cannot be trusted to freely govern themselves .

They need a security force watching and controlling them 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yet another Anti Israeli referencing the Nazis 

Your persecution complex rising again.

Of course people are anti Israel.

3 hours ago, Captor said:

Have they released the Israelian hostage yet? That would be a quick fix to end the conflict. The solution is in their own hands.

have the IDF stopped murderind children and aid workers yet

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yet another Anti Israeli referencing the Nazis 

 

Speaking of the Nazis, this is a bit like when Hitler recognised Eva Braun legally and married her. In the end Palestine is bound to die soon. Israel's genocide will succeed fairly shortly. 

 

With the landgrab and the settlers, not to mention the killing of children and food collectors,  not to mention the wholesale destruction of Gaza, it's hard to see how a Palestiinan state could exist viably in the long term.

 

Still, they got their statehood. it's a nice French gesture.

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not now, no 

Not after October 7 th .

The days of trying to live a peaceful existence are over .

Palestinians cannot be trusted to freely govern themselves .

They need a security force watching and controlling them 

You forget Operation Shield and Arrow, May 2023.

 

More babies under 1 have been killed now than all civilians on Oct 7.

Just now, Chris.C said:

Your persecution complex rising again.

Of course people are anti Israel.

 

  Point is that Anti Israeli frequently talk about Nazi .

People who oppose the Jewish state have an interest in a group that tried to annihilate  Jews .

   Anti Israelis seem to have Nazi sympathies 

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yet another Anti Israeli referencing the Nazis 

You are all at it

   Anyway , Not true .

Egypt controlled the border in the south of Gaza  

 

How did that amount to any kind of self determination for the Gazans?

 

1 minute ago, yardrunner said:

have the IDF stopped murderind children and aid workers yet

Just started, only 92 % of Gaza has been destroyed. The final solution is put them all in a concentration camp in the south and only allow them out if they go to other countries. Netanyahu said this as did other ministers.

2 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

You forget Operation Shield and Arrow, May 2023.7.

 

    Now, that was in response to Palestinians  firing 102 rockets into Israel

Israel were retaliating to an missile attack  from Gaza

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Now, that was in response to Palestinians  firing 102 rockets into Israel

Israel were retaliating to an missile attack  from Gaza

How many Israelis were killed?
propaganda

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

How did that amount to any kind of self determination for the Gazans?

 

 

   Point being that Israel didn't control Gaza 

3 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

How many Israelis were killed?
propaganda

 

  I think that just 1 Israeli got killed 

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Point being that Israel didn't control Gaza 

Yes they did.

12 hours ago, webfact said:

In a groundbreaking announcement, French President Emmanuel Macron declared that France will officially recognise a Palestinian state in September. The formal declaration is set to take place during the UN General Assembly session in New York. Macron's statement on X emphasised the need to restore peace in Gaza, calling for an immediate ceasefire and the release of hostages.

The guy, imitating the ginger clown, desperately tries to divert attention from the problems with his mother

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Point being that Israel didn't control Gaza 

 

Neither did the Nazis control the Warsaw ghetto.   They just controlled what (and who) went in and what (and who) went out.  Which sounds to me a lot like "control".

 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I think that just 1 Israeli got killed 

No, a few were treated for anxiety. One rule for your lot, another for Palestinians 

 

 

The following highlights the disparity between Jews  And Muslims.

Muslims- 6 children, 3 women killed

Jews- 10 required medical treatment for shock and anxiety!

"As of noon on May 11th, the Palestinian Health Ministry had confirmed the killing of 25 Palestinians, including 6 children and 3 women. 64 Palestinians have been reported injured, including 21 children and 8 women. Some of the wounded are reportedly in critical condition.

As of noon on May 11th, according to the Israeli authorities, around 400 rockets launched from Gaza crossed into Israel. At least 25 Israelis were injured while running to shelters, 10 of which required medical treatment for shock and anxiety and 15 for light wounds."

 

 

https://www.humanity-inclusion.org.uk/en/military-operations-in-gaza-and-israel--a-worrying-impact-on-civilians-

Operation Shield and Arrow- MAY 2023

Previous Operations, that Israel's refer to as 'mowing  the lawn'. Who are the ones dying unproportionately?

1. Operation Rainbow

   • Date: May 2004

   • Killed: ~43–100 Palestinians

2. Operation Days of Penitence

   • Date: Sept–Oct 2004

   • Killed: ~104 Palestinians, 5 Israelis

3. Operation Summer Rains

   • Date: June–Nov 2006

   • Killed: ~400 Palestinians, 5 Israelis

4. Operation Hot Winter

   • Date: Feb–Mar 2008

   • Killed: ~112 Palestinians, 3 Israelis

5. Operation Cast Lead

   • Date: Dec 2008 – Jan 2009

   • Killed: ~1,400 Palestinians, 13 Israelis

6. Operation Pillar of Defense

   • Date: Nov 2012

   • Killed: ~167 Palestinians, 6 Israelis

7. Operation Protective Edge

   • Date: July–Aug 2014

   • Killed: ~2,251 Palestinians, 73 Israelis

8. Operation Guardian of the Walls

   • Date: May 2021

   • Killed: ~256 Palestinians, 13 Israelis

9. Operation Breaking Dawn

   • Date: Aug 2022

   • Killed: ~49 Palestinians, 0 Israelis

1 minute ago, Chris.C said:

No, a few were treated for anxiety. One rule for your lot, another for Palestinians 

 

 

   It says on Wiki that 1 Israeli was killed 

 

Total killed:
1 civilian
Total wounded: 32

 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Neither did the Nazis control the Warsaw ghetto.   They just controlled what (and who) went in and what (and who) went out.  Which sounds to me a lot like "control".

 

Israel also maintained control over ID registration and movement permits for Gaza residents. And all imports/exports, air space, sea, etc

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It says on Wiki that 1 Israeli was killed 

 

Total killed:
1 civilian
Total wounded: 32

 

Wounded emotionally, let’s mow the lawn again.

How many have died in Israel from rockets in last 20 years, they are glorified firework for symbolic reasons.

israel can survive 400 ballistic missiles from Iran but can’t stop a few people in flip flops on paragliders, open your eyes man, it’s all part of the final solution.

You joked about starving children earlier today, and deny what over 100 aid agencies say, you are biased.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

You joked about starving children earlier today, and deny what over 100 aid agencies say, you are biased.

 

 

 

   Stop lying .

I did not joke about starving children .

You make Nazi references and keep going on about children .

Anti Israelis seem to have a weird interest in children and Nazis 

You aren't the only one 

 

27 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

Do you think Israel would pull out if they got the hostages?

 

I can't answer that but I would bet good money that if they did get the hostages out, they would then move in to completely raze Gaza to the ground and try to move the Palestinians out to elsewhere. Once that had been done, then Hamas would control nothing.

 

IMO, Palestinians have been complicit in the formation and support of Hamas and now they are reaping the rewards that they didn't foresee.

7 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

How many have died in Israel from rockets in last 20 years, they are glorified firework for symbolic reasons.

 

   Untrue again .

Israelis have bomb shelters and air raids warnings and Israelis go into bomb shelters to keep safe from Pally rockets .

   Thats why there are few deaths 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Stop lying .

I did not joke about starving children .

You make Nazi references and keep going on about children .

Anti Israelis seem to have a weird interest in children and Nazis 

You aren't the only one 

 

With many starving to death, there are no words for your posts.

 

3 minutes ago, xylophone said:

IMO, Palestinians have been complicit in the formation and support of Hamas and now they are reaping the rewards that they didn't foresee.

They saw Hamas as a way out their concentration camp. Just like many Irish supported the IRA freedom fighters.

3 hours ago, Captor said:

Have they released the Israelian hostage yet? That would be a quick fix to end the conflict. The solution is in their own hands.

Israel’s objectives have been expanded to interning the Palestinians in a concentration camp and dispossessing them of their land.

 

It’s not longer simply a war about hostages, it’s now a land grab.