1 hour ago, zzzzz said:

NOT true, an ur feeding the fake news

That was certainly not my intention, merely what I heard on the Thai  TV

The response to my comment indicates I was not the only one who saw this

Its obviously difficult to believe anything we are told,  its probably better to remain blissfully ignorant and believe nothing then? Something I will endeavour to do in future

On 8/4/2025 at 11:21 AM, Bday Prang said:

I'm interested to know which idiots actually believe any of this cr@p   seems to trigger my missis something rotten

Well the Cambodians do, because their “news” is super controlled, and like to spread stories against Thailand!

10 hours ago, Pla Simon said:

Mostly an algorithmic inculcated confirmation bias campaign - quite apparent platforming of an inflammatory narrative in the comments sections, on any coverage of the conflict, on any given social media outlet - by both sides. 

 

These lodestones are invariably the tools of those bloated toxic narcissists, invariably riddled with deceit and avarice - who only gain emotively through authoritive control and perpetuated misery.  Blood drenched hands hypocritically vying for a proxied moral highground, quite plainly in full view - just for the rising above an insular interface, and looking at the bigger picture.

 

Social media platforms seem to proffer a binary - little in the way of arbitration.

 

Not suggesting their aren't errant factions in any walk of life - but in such circumstances, I'll take the median over the mean as an aggregate of instigation.

 

The populace in these areas that face regular social injustice and live hand to mouth on a day to day basis inherently don't start or want war with each other.

 

Anyone who lives in these border areas and knows the people / language, or are lucky enough to have travelled and immersed themselves in the culture on both sides would know your average joe on one side of the fence actively dislike the powers that be and have been for many Years, but are too intimidated to raise their voices above a whisper in trusted circles. 

The other side of the coin are those who don a uniform and perpetuate the narratve to guarantee the relative safety and food security it provides.

 

Face and national pride are so important to these people, because that's all a lot of people have - some have a choice, some don't.

 

Nice to have a choice, isn't it ?

 

Often taken for granted.

 

Their are "influencers" on both sides of the fence, both native and foreign with no flesh in the game, relying on second hand misleading information, perpetuating and stoking nationalist sentiment, ironically afforded unparalleled comfort, safety and freedom from thousands of miles away, just for clicks - clipped winged empathy reaction videos that have big fan bases, espousing sentiment completely at odds with the reality on the ground here.

 

The reality on the ground here on the border is people are frightened, and wound up to the point of paranoid delusion - being fueled by fake news and gossip perpetuated by the likes of Zuckerberg's famous pig.

 

Holding absolute power over a country, having hundreds of billions of dollars passing through their hands and not reinvesting in the populace.

 

Prioritising political posturing over a functioning military using antiquated unreliable / dangerous hardware - hospitals, reliable energy sources, running water, food security, then employing force of fear to play the victim.

 

Imagine a World where people ascribe to be proponent of an enlightened, peaceful religion, only to be brainwashed into using collective blame as mitigation to deny struggling innocent human beings basic humanitarian aid and dignity.

 

Thailand this and Cambodia that - <deleted> sick of it - start naming and pointing the finger at the entities giving the orders. the real initiators and instigators - not the wonderful, common people who thankfully are the majority of the populace of these lands.

TL;DR

15 hours ago, zzzzz said:

Hun sen has been in power for 38 years, not a bad run and even thou his son is now PM, everyone knows who is running things

he is a real piece of work but every dictator is 

Troll post removed 

On 8/5/2025 at 11:17 AM, madone said:

Word salad indeed.

 

Nothing of any worth to contribute  to the topic- then why bother ?

 

People like you are the reason many gave up regular contribution to this site a long time ago, under it's former iterations.

 

Irony when I parried your formidable cognitive with a harmless witticism, I was reported as a troll

 

I already take care of a small child - which has proven quite tiring at times, so not really into taking on the responsibility of another.

 

I bid you adieu - enjoy your day.

 

 

 

 

On 8/4/2025 at 1:21 PM, CanadaSam said:

Almost every Thai talking about this issue, including women, want Cambodia wiped off the map!

 

It's amazing that they completely fail to listen to facts that it's Thailand that does not want international intervention, that Thailand has 10 or 100 times the military might, that Cambodia is weak and could not possibly want war, it is always Cambodia that's in the wrong, and in their minds, should be destroyed!

 

Yes, probably the Cambodian side did start it, but it would have been with local soldiers, and local civilians, certainly not at a government level, where their own destruction is well known as a result of any real "war".

Cambodian government is evil. Forcing people to come back or else have their land and homes seized is evil. That right there proves that the Cambodian government should fall. 

On 8/5/2025 at 1:24 PM, Bday Prang said:

Hun sen has threatened any cambodians in Thailand who do not return home immediately with removal of their cambodian nationality, effectively rendering them stateless. He really is a piece of work! 

On  a "lighter" note , according to my missis, out  towards Phanom Dong Rak some cambodian soldiers  were forced to seek assistance from the Thai army after they trapped themselves in a location with their own land mines, not sure what the outcome was though, i 'm guessing they got the help they wanted

Thaksin should consider playing the publicity game and giving those dead cambodian soldiers families small compensation like 25k baht and say "Look Khmer people, we care about you more than your own leaders, we don't want to invade you, we want real peace. You're own government is leaving your soldiers dead rotting in the sun so they don't have to give you compensation."

5 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

Thaksin should consider playing the publicity game and giving those dead cambodian soldiers families small compensation like 25k baht and say "Look Khmer people, we care about you more than your own leaders, we don't want to invade you, we want real peace. You're own government is leaving your soldiers dead rotting in the sun so they don't have to give you compensation."

that would be like feeding stray cats , every time they wanted some money in the future they will be there howling at the border . Anyway  why risk more  lives dodging land mines to scoop corpses up  ?   I f they must be dealt with, incinerate them from above using helicopters with flamethrowers.   toxin won't even be donating to his own  people any more after his one off sickening publicity stunt. How much has his $hit for brains daughter coughed up?  Sweet FA as far as I am aware 

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

that would be like feeding stray cats , every time they wanted some money in the future they will be there howling at the border . Anyway  why risk more  lives dodging land mines to scoop corpses up  ?   I f they must be dealt with, incinerate them from above using helicopters with flamethrowers.   toxin won't even be donating to his own  people any more after his one off sickening publicity stunt. How much has his $hit for brains daughter coughed up?  Sweet FA as far as I am aware 

Oh I know brotha. I was just speculating on an option he has. It won't happen, but Thailand needs to realize they're in an information/propaganda war with Cambodia, not a traditional fighting one. Cambodia will be on a never ending relentless propaganda campaign against Thailand making them out to be genocidal maniacs.

59 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

Oh I know brotha. I was just speculating on an option he has. It won't happen, but Thailand needs to realize they're in an information/propaganda war with Cambodia, not a traditional fighting one. Cambodia will be on a never ending relentless propaganda campaign against Thailand making them out to be genocidal maniacs.

The general  populations of  both  countries are not that different, basically decent yet in the main relatively poor and  uneducated    And both controlled by rather nasty people who care only for themselves   we can add north korea into the club as well.   what a difference when compared to Japan for example

18 hours ago, Pla Simon said:

I bid you adieu - enjoy your day.

 

I bite my thumb at you

On 8/5/2025 at 9:26 AM, thaipo7 said:

Got that right and always weaponized against those that are not Marxist, Communists, Socialists, or Islamist.

Given that anyone can weaponise social media, EVERY group is a target, suggesting otherwise is, to a point, weaponising social media. The target in any country is whoever is scapegoated.  Immigrants in US, Muslim men in UK,ethnic minorities in Myanmar etc. 

On 8/5/2025 at 1:37 PM, Hummin said:

It have been successfully used in every other conflicts as long there have been wars. It do have an longterm effect to collect sympathy, resources, support among allies. 

 

Not only in war, but also in basic politics. 

 

Stolen elections etc

The first casualty of war is the truth. Clausewitz maybe? But definitely 100% accurate.

On 8/4/2025 at 5:42 PM, Will B Good said:

 

Mine is off the wall.....wants Cambodia wiped off the face of the Earth.

 

Everything the Thais post is gospel, everything the Cambodians post is out and out lies and propaganda.

 

I just nod and try to look as concerned as I can.

I must agree My Thai friends buy into this big time. there is a lot of hysteria out there.

Anyone surprised that many Thais believe this disinformation should reflect on his or her own country and people.

 

In my country, around 30% believe in the QAnon nonsense. The US has everything from 9-11 "Truthers" to "Lunartics" (so-called fake moon landing) to believers in some absurdity called the Deep State, to Flat Earthers. Many also believe a certain political figure who says little other than lies.

 

One has to cut the Thais some slack, especially those who live in or originate from border provinces like Surin, Buriram and Si Sa Ket. War is scary. It jumbles the mind, and the mind wants answers and/or outrage. Folks also tend to want to claim the moral high ground, and one sure way to do that is to dehumanize "others". I suspect half of Americans think everyone from south of the border is either a rapist or murderer, maybe both, when the reality might be .0001%.

 

That in a time of sudden and surprising conflict, it is human nature to cling to absurdities, as many Thai are doing now.

On 8/5/2025 at 10:07 AM, wensiensheng said:

Sounds like the ceasefire isn’t doing too well

You ever think might be mine clearance ,

False news as a certain person would say

On 8/4/2025 at 11:21 AM, Bday Prang said:

I'm interested to know which idiots actually believe any of this cr@p   seems to trigger my missis something rotten

Yes my missis believes everything is the fault of Cambodia, so who is in charge of the miss information, they should be sorted out and held accountable, locked up as well, never happen.

2 hours ago, Wingate said:

Anyone surprised that many Thais believe this disinformation should reflect on his or her own country and people.

 

In my country, around 30% believe in the QAnon nonsense. The US has everything from 9-11 "Truthers" to "Lunartics" (so-called fake moon landing) to believers in some absurdity called the Deep State, to Flat Earthers. Many also believe a certain political figure who says little other than lies.

 

One has to cut the Thais some slack, especially those who live in or originate from border provinces like Surin, Buriram and Si Sa Ket. War is scary. It jumbles the mind, and the mind wants answers and/or outrage. Folks also tend to want to claim the moral high ground, and one sure way to do that is to dehumanize "others". I suspect half of Americans think everyone from south of the border is either a rapist or murderer, maybe both, when the reality might be .0001%.

 

That in a time of sudden and surprising conflict, it is human nature to cling to absurdities, as many Thai are doing now.

Its called nationalism or patriotism and is nothing to be ashamed of .   Sadly the woke westerners have had it brainwashed out of them.

On 8/4/2025 at 11:21 AM, Bday Prang said:

I'm interested to know which idiots actually believe any of this cr@p   seems to trigger my missis something rotten

But the good is my misses now calls Thakin and his family traitors.

On 8/4/2025 at 3:43 PM, chuang said:

Cambodia is learning from Trump..

 

More like victimhood from the Israeli's

On 8/5/2025 at 12:11 PM, Aussie999 said:

I'd be more interested in who we can 100% believe.

No one...

1 minute ago, zyphodb said:

No one...

 

 

Very true......I almost made the fatal mistake of suggesting to SWMBO that not everything she read re: The Thai view of things........ was necessarily true...........only just managed to stop myself.