41 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

 

America Faces Significant Shortage of Tech Workers in Semiconductor Industry and Throughout U.S. Economy

https://www.semiconductors.org/america-faces-significant-shortage-of-tech-workers-in-semiconductor-industry-and-throughout-u-s-economy/#:~:text=WASHINGTON—July 25%2C 2023—,these workers in the semiconductor

How can that be, when over 60% of the population are getting college degrees? 

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

How can that be, when over 60% of the population are getting college degrees? 

What kind of degrees and in what fields?

Tump tries to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US and the left howls.

 

Why? 

13 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

What kind of degrees and in what fields?

Exactly 

18 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

Whoever wanted to reap blood from the homeless etc that sounds like a bad scifi plot.  Yikes.

 

 

 

 

Its was back in the 1970s-80s. It was even worse than convicts and the homeless. Cryosan Inc used to harvest blood from dead Russians,  relabel it as from Swedish donors, and flogged it to unsuspecting Canadians.

 

A number of companies have been implicated in the contaminated blood products scandal; Abbott Labs, Armour (Revlon), Koate (Bayer), Hyland (Baxter) and others. In the mid 70s, there were warnings that the crap coming from the US was laden with Hepatitis, but these were ignored. On a personal note, my father, on loan from the British Army, was setting up the Bahraini Defence Forces blood service in the early 80s. The Bahrainis had been persuaded to buy American, rather than setting up a blood donation service; in the Gulf Arab culture, people were reluctant to donate blood. My dad, who was seeing what was happening in the UK NHS, and was getting wind of a new virus, was vociferous in his opposition. His solution was simple; fit, healthy squaddies were to be offered days off for donating blood. Plenty of support for that. So Bahrain escaped that. Many years later, I was researching HIV testing in Saudi Arabia, and discovered quite a significant rate, which was surprising, and a bit of a state secret there. it seems contaminated imported blood products were partially to blame.

 

The US, Czechia, Germany, Austria and Hungary are now the only countries that allow people to sell their blood plasma.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/louisiana-teacher-seeks-survive-inflation-141633014.html

 

 

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Blood-Money/Kathleen-McLaughlin/9781797155395

 

2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

What kind of degrees and in what fields?

 

Likely in areas that dominate the US economy; the service industries. No point training for an area with no jobs. That doesn't mean reshoring can't happen, but it's a longer process that takes 5-10 years to build the work force needed. You can shortcut the process through immigration, an area that the US, a nation of immigrants, enjoyed an advantage over Europe. Not only a steady pipeline, but also a workforce that is much more mobile than in the EU. The single market ought to mean a mobile workforce, but the opportunities open to a Portugeuse national in Helsinki are a lot different to a New Yorker scouting San Diego. And immigrants by definition are highly mobile; they will go where the work is.

 

 

On 8/11/2025 at 11:24 AM, mogandave said:

So Tim Cook is a liar, thanks. 

 

That makes sense, him being a leftist and all. He (like most leftists) cares nothing about the truth, all he cares about is money.

 

Top post. Short and to the point.

8 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Likely in areas that dominate the US economy; the service industries.

 But were that true.

8 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

No point training for an area with no jobs. That doesn't mean reshoring can't happen, but it's a longer process that takes 5-10 years to build the work force needed. You can shortcut the process through immigration, an area that the US, a nation of immigrants, enjoyed an advantage over Europe. Not only a steady pipeline, but also a workforce that is much more mobile than in the EU. The single market ought to mean a mobile workforce, but the opportunities open to a Portugeuse national in Helsinki are a lot different to a New Yorker scouting San Diego. And immigrants by definition are highly mobile; they will go where the work is.

 

 

We should only offer student loans and grants for people in STEM disciplines. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 But were that true.

We should only offer student loans and grants for people in STEM disciplines. 

 

 

 

Well things like that might happen. In the old days, it would be the industry that sponsored and paid bursaries. And actually it is a thing that many professional societies and the like do offer scholarships based around those areas. But its also worth noting that these STEM, especially S and M, have taking a beating over many years, with many people in the US, especially the older generation, suspicious of people with a high level of education. Science is routinely attacked. Eg the Health Secretary's decision to pull $500 bn in research funding. That is a strong indication for those who might look at biosciences as a career to look at another career. Its not just about "vaccines"; quantum computing is going to be unlocked not by increasingly complex constructions using rare metals and silica, but DNA powered computers. The West's strength over the Eastern cultures is Individualism. Eastern cultures believe strongly in society, which is very laudable, but that stifles the individual. That's nothing to do with communism etc

 

Western societies, almost by design, are more innovative, because of individual. Many of the ideas might be terrible, but history tells us many are not. We can change much more quickly. There is too much talk about reinventing the wheel, about the reindustrialisation of the US, and elsewhere, which seems to be pretty much lots of the tired old factories that were being built 100 years ago. That's not very innovative. That's actually pretty lazy. Its the solution proposed by an old man, and old men have no future, and therefore no vision.

11 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Well things like that might happen. In the old days, it would be the industry that sponsored and paid bursaries. And actually it is a thing that many professional societies and the like do offer scholarships based around those areas. But its also worth noting that these STEM, especially S and M, have taking a beating over many years, with many people in the US, especially the older generation, suspicious of people with a high level of education. Science is routinely attacked. Eg the Health Secretary's decision to pull $500 bn in research funding. That is a strong indication for those who might look at biosciences as a career to look at another career. Its not just about "vaccines"; quantum computing is going to be unlocked not by increasingly complex constructions using rare metals and silica, but DNA powered computers. The West's strength over the Eastern cultures is Individualism. Eastern cultures believe strongly in society, which is very laudable, but that stifles the individual. That's nothing to do with communism etc

 

Western societies, almost by design, are more innovative, because of individual. Many of the ideas might be terrible, but history tells us many are not. We can change much more quickly. There is too much talk about reinventing the wheel, about the reindustrialisation of the US, and elsewhere, which seems to be pretty much lots of the tired old factories that were being built 100 years ago. That's not very innovative. That's actually pretty lazy. Its the solution proposed by an old man, and old men have no future, and therefore no vision.

First, i think the reason people have become more suspicious of people with a “high level” of education has more to do with the deterioration of education than anything. That, and the number of bone-headed things we hear from so many “highly educated “ individuals. 

 

It was $500M, not B that was cancelled.  A drop in the bucket funding wise. 

 

Ford was building over a million cars a year 100 years ago. 

On 8/11/2025 at 10:48 AM, ronnie50 said:

The tariffs on imported goods will drive up the price for the consumer. The importing US company might absorb some of it and the foreign exporters will try to find a way to reduce costs marginally, but ultimately it is the US consumer that will take the hit. That will eventually fuel inflation. This is all Economics 101. 

July Consumer Price Index is out. CPI rose 2.7% year on year. That's 0.3%, or slightly less than predicted.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/12/cpi-inflation-report-july-2025.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-deficit-grows-291-billion-180509076.html

 

US deficit grows to $291 billion in July despite tariff revenue surge

 

(Reuters) -The U.S. government's budget deficit grew nearly 20% in July to $291 billion despite a nearly $21 billion jump in customs duty collections from President Donald Trump's tariffs, with outlays growing faster than receipts, the Treasury Department said on Tuesday.

The deficit for July was up 19%, or $47 billion, from July 2024. Receipts for the month grew 2%, or $8 billion, to $338 billion, while outlays jumped 10%, or $56 billion, to $630 billion, a record high for the month.

11 hours ago, Will B Good said:

So the glass  made in Kentucky is tariffed when exported to China, which Apple has to pay.

 

The iPhones are then shipped to the US from China and the iPhones (and the glass in effect) are tariffed again, which Apple has to pay.

 

Sounds pure genius.......tariffs on iPhones shipped directly to the UK?.......zero.

Americans will soon realize it's cheaper to buy their new iPhones in London.. Oh, but then they need to declare the purchase to US Customs on arrival back in the States. How much is the duty on tourists bringing back electronics?

12 hours ago, Will B Good said:

So the glass  made in Kentucky is tariffed when exported to China, which Apple has to pay.

 

No, there are no tariffs on exports. 

 

China may charge duty on the glass when it is imported, but Apple would likely get an exemption on imported components that used to produce products for export, I know we did. 

 

12 hours ago, Will B Good said:

The iPhones are then shipped to the US from China and the iPhones (and the glass in effect) are tariffed again, which Apple has to pay.

 

Sounds pure genius.......tariffs on iPhones shipped directly to the UK?.......zero.

So? 

But while showcasing American might can be effective, Trump is also alienating allies who were force multipliers of US global power. What happens the next time America wants help from its friends — for instance after a 9/11-style attack? Will disaffected populations allow leaders he bullied to rush to America’s defense? Trump meanwhile may also be pushing angry allies into the arms of a new superpower — China. And his failure so far to wring trade concessions out of a Beijing that keeps dealing its rare-earth metals trump card may render his broader trade agenda hollow.

 

A perilous national moment could arrive if public opinion turns sharply against Trump and Republicans seem about to pay the price in next year’s midterm elections. This, after all, is a president who believes he has almost unlimited power and tried to steal an election he lost in 2020.

 

Trump’s growing authoritarian streak shines through his unlocking of vast executive powers through dubious national emergencies. His assaults on the judiciary, the media, universities and officials in previous administrations already threaten the principles of republican government. This comes a year before he presides over the 250th anniversary of the American revolution, which shook off the unaccountable whims of kings — whom Trump increasingly resembles.

 

But unless Trump shattered political logic while he was breaking the mold of the presidency, a reckoning could be looming. What happens next will define how history remembers his second term.

48 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

But while showcasing American might can be effective, Trump is also alienating allies who were force multipliers of US global power. What happens the next time America wants help from its friends — for instance after a 9/11-style attack? Will disaffected populations allow leaders he bullied to rush to America’s defense? Trump meanwhile may also be pushing angry allies into the arms of a new superpower — China. And his failure so far to wring trade concessions out of a Beijing that keeps dealing its rare-earth metals trump card may render his broader trade agenda hollow.

 

A perilous national moment could arrive if public opinion turns sharply against Trump and Republicans seem about to pay the price in next year’s midterm elections. This, after all, is a president who believes he has almost unlimited power and tried to steal an election he lost in 2020.

 

Trump’s growing authoritarian streak shines through his unlocking of vast executive powers through dubious national emergencies. His assaults on the judiciary, the media, universities and officials in previous administrations already threaten the principles of republican government. This comes a year before he presides over the 250th anniversary of the American revolution, which shook off the unaccountable whims of kings — whom Trump increasingly resembles.

 

But unless Trump shattered political logic while he was breaking the mold of the presidency, a reckoning could be looming. What happens next will define how history remembers his second term.

Poor dude

4 hours ago, mogandave said:

Poor dude

I feel exactly the same way, my heart goes out to Trump and even though he is a goon, a goomba and a reptile, I still feel compassion for anyone who suffers on a daily basis, to the extent that he does. Wait a truly sadsack of a man. 

 

 

On 8/11/2025 at 1:36 AM, mogandave said:

So you think that Tim Cook and all the other corporate leaders that have made investment commitments publicly are all liars. 

 

 

 

No, but major corporates are well versed with playing games with strategy. As the OP article mentions a major hindrance will be a workforce suitable. e.g. Foxtel currently employs 500,00 staff in PRC. Best to see how the landscape is in a few years time before blowing Trump's trumpet, though we all know Trump is his very best worst enemy.

7 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

No, there are no tariffs on exports. 

 

China may charge duty on the glass when it is imported, but Apple would likely get an exemption on imported components that used to produce products for export, I know we did. 

 

So? 

 

Apple have to pay the Chinese tariff.....no exemption.

20 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

I don't see anything uncivil in @bamnutsak post, unless you consider getting the truth thrown in your face some kind of abuse.

So implying I believe in fairy tails is "truth".  

 

OK.  

1 minute ago, jimmybcool said:

So implying I believe in fairy tails is "truth".  

 

OK.  

 

 

Fairy tails.....now that got me wondering.....what might they look like?

 

Could be a book title....you could be onto something here.

On 8/10/2025 at 10:30 PM, Tug said:

Where’s the money?I’ve heard word’s only.don’t be bambozzled by his rhetoric with trump factual proof otherwise it’s just talk.

 

Agreed.....Corning Inc are the only company involved in manufacturing iPhone and Apple watch glass......so that was a load of guff over investing in the US.

 

Apple are just investing in an already US based firm.

 

 

5 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

So implying I believe in fairy tails is "truth".  

 

OK.  

 

So you think the claim about Foxcon was a fairytale.

Yes it was a fairytale they told Trump, your almighty master.

You can google to find it is true, but IO know you won't do that because, it will look you in the face

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Agreed.....Corning Inc are the only company involved in manufacturing iPhone and Apple watch glass......so that was a load of guff over investing in the US.

 

Apple are just investing in an already US based firm.

 

 

 

Never trust Apple, or haven't you read the Sapphire story?

 

https://archive.ph/fFfyb

 

Apple had committed to use their product for the Apple watch, until they didn't

On 8/10/2025 at 6:58 PM, ronnie50 said:

U.S. manufacturer Motorola tried 'Made in USA' some years back with one of its cell phones. But a year after opening a factory in Texas, making 100,000 phones a week, the company realized it was unsustainable and shut it down. CNN report, picked up by other agencies: https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/tried-building-smartphones-us-over-080042927.html 

 

Former CEO of Motorola explains why.

Thanks for the article.

One aspect is attracting and retaining a quality workforce was listed as a top business challenge facing US manufacturers, as the article states. But how to get quality workers who have never worked in a phone factory when they were all sent to Asia many years ago? It takes years to build that experience. If you don't already have an experienced workforce then you have to train them from scratch and they won't stay unless it pays better than working in a store.

1 minute ago, Purdey said:

One aspect is attracting and retaining a quality workforce was listed as a top business challenge facing US manufacturers, as the article states. But how to get quality workers who have never worked in a phone factory when they were all sent to Asia many years ago? It takes years to build that experience. If you don't already have an experienced workforce then you have to train them from scratch and they won't stay unless it pays better than working in a store.

 

 

Yes...Tim Cook (could be lying of course) soundly rejected the notion that the pay issue was of significance US v China.

 

He claimed  standard of workpersonship, skills, education, management expertise........were the critical factors

On 8/10/2025 at 6:58 PM, ronnie50 said:

U.S. manufacturer Motorola tried 'Made in USA' some years back with one of its cell phones. But a year after opening a factory in Texas, making 100,000 phones a week, the company realized it was unsustainable and shut it down. CNN report, picked up by other agencies: https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/tried-building-smartphones-us-over-080042927.html 

 

Former CEO of Motorola explains why.

he doesn't have to explain anything, it's very easy to understand and Apple will do the same, the majority of small components to assemble a mobile phone require a lot of handy work, knowing the USA labor costs and potential problems with labor unions no company with be profitable making them in the USA, even Trump knows it and that's why his own company making mobile phones at the start advertised as they were made in the USA, then a month or so later they become made in CHINA/India/Vietnam and so forth, Apple promised building a new IPhone factory in the USA but just a promise like back in 2016, other mobile phone and chip makers companies will do the same, just promised to Trump in order to please him but the reality is the building will never go up, building a factory is very expensive and would take 4-5 or + years and the return in the investment would take forever to be profitable, Trump will be gone by then, they already have full operational factories overseas, why would a smart CEO would change that

Every major company knows who they are dealing with, that his tariffs most likely will be thrown out by the supreme court, and that by the time their claims have to materialize, Trump will be long gone.

They know all he wants is to hear a story so he can brag, and his disciples call that winning. hahaha hahaha

On 8/11/2025 at 1:47 AM, blaze master said:

 

Are you really this obtuse ? Apple have made a statement you are calling them liars ?

 

How strange.

 

And if your prediction is wrong will you publicly state it ? Or will you react like most on the left dis after the kamala debacle.? Kind of like the poster in question did.  Scattered for a long time only to slither back k into the forum like nothing happened

 

 

I wont hold my breath for you to publicly admit you were wrong.

just one example... btw did Apple ever build the factory, you must have photos or a link to that don't you, it must look beautiful

 

Since the last election, Trump has been a big proponent of the Taiwan-based electronic manufacturer Foxconn's opening of a massive factory in Wisconsin, promising thousands of new jobs. But millions of taxpayer dollars and zero manufactured goods later, it seems like the people of Wisconsin have been Fox-conned. Ronny Chieng investigates. #DailyShow #RonnyChieng #Wisconsin