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Zelensky: Russia Stalls Peace; Trump Pushes Ukraine Deal!

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Putin's demands................

 

1.  Complete Ukrainian withdrawal from the Donbas region, including Donetsk and Luhansk.

2.  Freeze of current front lines in southern Ukraine—particularly in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia—effectively locking in Russian territorial gains.

3.  Abandonment of NATO ambitions by Ukraine.

4.  Recognition of Crimea as Russian territory (though this point is less emphasized in current negotiations).

 

Looks like Trump has really kicked Putin's ass....now where's that Nobel?

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    “It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement, which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, whic

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    He couldn't give a monkeys.....he just wants a Nobel because Obama has one.....5555

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18 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Looks like team woke getting triggered by Trumps efforts to stop the killing. Would be funny if the stakes weren't so high. As it is, the peace haters are very sinister & pathetic.

Ah yes, 250 years ago ... American colonists stop the killing. You don't have the cards (need I point out international alliances with France, Spain, Netherlands changed the balance). I believe we have "peace in our times" by selling out the Czechs ceding their sovereign lands to Hitler ... Damn history lessons anyway!

15 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

Zelenskyy in his brain addled ninkumpoop posturing doesn't get it and don't get much. Why would Russia give a rats rectum about a cease fire when they are winning! Stupid people saying and doing stupid things. Trump will provide the solution, resolutions, peace agreements, etc AND MORE beginning Monday and THEN in October collect his Nobel peace prize. How about that haters! 

Here's a deal for trump ... join us allies to increase dramatically support for Ukraine ... in return, we support your egotistical bid for that Peace Prize ... if/when peace comes about.

23 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

The MSM are failing to report that Donbas is mainly populated by Russian speakers 50% of whom want to be federally independent of Ukraine, 30% of whom want to be a part of Russia.

Yes, the Sudetenland choice. When did you collect these numbers, I hope before 2014?
No, they're not failing to report that.

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25 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

The MSM are failing to report that Donbas is mainly populated by Russian speakers 50% of whom want to be federally independent of Ukraine, 30% of whom want to be a part of Russia.

 

So a significant majority...... 85%.......... don't want to be part of Russia?

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Someone wrote "US at war".

Only war its engaged in is against itself, looking at whats happening in DC and elsewhere.

And- donnie will NEVER get a nobel price.

As norwegian i know the committy is independent from norwegian government, and they would be kicked out of their jobs (and country) should it happen.

Norwegians (exept extreme rightwings) are disgusted by this ........ 🙂

 

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Zelensky sir, you're in the same predicament as Israel is, where other countries and entities wishing to throw you out and take your land but not before inflicting death and destructions on your country and people,

I don't see Trump being able to help you and Putin is bent on destroying at any costs, even at the costs of hundreds of thousands of his own people, I really feel for the Ukrainian people, you don't deserve what you're going through. 

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3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

5:08 "... what the BBC an CNN are telling us is fabricated ..." No surprise here. These two outlets are of course "trusted" sources.

I stopped there

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25 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Zelensky sir, you're in the same predicament as Israel is, where other countries and entities wishing to throw you out and take your land but not before inflicting death and destructions on your country and people,

I don't see Trump being able to help you and Putin is bent on destroying at any costs, even at the costs of hundreds of thousands of his own people, I really feel for the Ukrainian people, you don't deserve what you're going through. 

NOT in the slightest are The Ukraine and Israel in the same predicament.

 

Both Israel and Russia have invaded other countries, but The Ukraine has not invaded anyone, so how are Israel and The Ukraine in the same predicament?

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20 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

I stopped there

As he is on my ignore list, I didn't bother to read any of his post.

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

NOT in the slightest are The Ukraine and Israel in the same predicament.

 

Both Israel and Russia have invaded other countries, but The Ukraine has not invaded anyone, so how are Israel and The Ukraine in the same predicament?

Sir, go and brush up on history of the Middle East before you post BS (pardon my language) on this page.

50% of whom do, indeed, not want to be a part of Russia but do want independence from Ukraine, at least on a federal basis. Always remember the historically harsh treatment Russian speakers in Ukraine have received from successive, corrupt, governments in Kyiv.

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2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

The MSM are failing to report that Donbas is mainly populated by Russian speakers 50% of whom want to be federally independent of Ukraine, 30% of whom want to be a part of Russia.

Source? 

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1 hour ago, candide said:

Source? 

Inter-alia, Wikipedia, the BBC, Reddit, The Independent, The Harriman Institute, Quora, The Washington Post..

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20 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Inter-alia, Wikipedia, the BBC, Reddit, The Independent, The Harriman Institute, Quora, The Washington Post..

Link?

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On 8/17/2025 at 11:24 AM, CharlieH said:

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russia of complicating peace efforts by refusing a ceasefire. "Russia rebuffs calls for peace, still no end to the killing," Zelensky wrote on X.

 

He plans to visit Washington DC, where US President Donald Trump will urge him towards a peace agreement.

Trump intends to bypass a ceasefire, aiming for a direct and lasting peace following discussions with Russian President Vladimir Putin. On Truth Social, Trump advocated moving straight to a permanent deal, arguing that ceasefires often collapse. Zelensky responded, pressing for genuine peace and an end to violence, listing key conditions: a credible security guarantee and the return of children allegedly taken from occupied territories.

 

Trump's change in stance marks a departure from his earlier push for a swift ceasefire. Meanwhile, Putin has suggested a peace offer requiring Ukraine's withdrawal from the Donetsk region in exchange for Russia freezing front lines in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson. This proposal heightens tensions over territorial control, a critical issue for Ukraine, considering Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea.

 

Ukraine firmly rejects ceding control of Donbas, fearing it could be a base for future threats. CBS reports indicate European diplomats are concerned Trump might pressure Zelensky into a quick agreement. According to these reports, Trump mentioned Putin's potential "concessions", though details remain vague.

 

In a Fox News segment, Trump advised Zelensky to "make a deal," noting Russia’s significant power. Previously, Trump had warned of "severe consequences" for Russia if they didn't agree to a ceasefire by a specific deadline. Despite little formal progress announced post-summit, both leaders claimed advancements had been made.

 

Putin described the Alaska summit as "very useful", focusing on addressing the root causes of the crisis. Russia’s Deputy Representative to the UN called the meeting a significant step towards peace, emphasizing continued dialogue as essential.

 

A coalition supporting Ukraine, including the UK, France, and Germany, plans talks prior to Zelensky’s visit to the US. European leaders are open to a trilateral summit, underscoring Ukraine’s sovereignty in territorial decisions. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer applauded Trump’s peace efforts, calling for Zelensky's participation in future discussions.

 

In Kyiv, there was discontent over the diplomatic proceedings in Alaska. Ukrainian veteran Serhii Orlyk criticised the red carpet treatment for Putin, deeming it disconnected from the ongoing conflict’s grim reality.

 

Meanwhile, European leaders like French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz have said they stand ready to support further negotiations. They emphasise that decisions about Ukraine's territory should remain with Ukraine, warning against changing international borders by force.

 

As the geopolitical chess game continues, the world watches to see if these diplomatic maneuvers will bring an end to the conflict or simply serve as a prelude to further tension.

 

 

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Trump appears to like causing total confusion. He should beseen as obviously helping Ukrains. Instead he seems to be in an inappropriate cosy buddy buddy embrace of Putin.  

 

Bottom line, in my assessment trump shouldn't be telling Zalensky to agree to Putins demands: i.e. Can never join NATO and must give Crimea to Russia. Trump doesn't appear to have Ukrain's best interests at the top of his agenda. 

 

I'm hoping the other European leaders attending the meeting today / tomorrow give very serious pushback to Putins demands and therefore help to keep Ukraines best interest alive and well. 

 

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Sad. A country is invaded and external parties try to give away chunks of its territory without its presence at the talks.

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6 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Sad. A country is invaded and external parties try to give away chunks of its territory without its presence at the talks.

 

 

Spot on.

 

You could argue that it brings peace and stops the senseless deaths......but the big prize really is that Nobel.

 

 

Zelensky said Kyiv might consider land swaps for peace but rejected ceding the entirety of Donetsk, including areas under Ukrainian control. He told reporters in Brussels that negotiations should start at current front lines and that Ukraine’s constitution prevents the surrender of its territory. Despite Russian advances, Kyiv retains control of key cities, including Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.

 

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk

22 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

Trump will provide the solution, resolutions, peace agreements, etc AND MORE beginning Monday and THEN in October collect his Nobel peace prize. How about that haters! 

You don't know squat what you're talking about, do you.

I'm Norwegian, and I can assure you that Trump won't have a chance on getting that peace price.

 

Even if by a miracle he did get it (Norwegians are laughing at it, so it won't happen regardless of the Ukraine outcome), the earliest he can get it, is in late 2026. The last date for nominating this year's price was back in February..

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2 hours ago, sharot724 said:

This should of course be addressed to Putin, not Zelensky. If Putin withdrew his forces from all of Ukraine's land, the war would be over. It's as simple as that.

 

Talk about turning the tables. What a noob.

5 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

50% of whom do, indeed, not want to be a part of Russia but do want independence from Ukraine, at least on a federal basis. Always remember the historically harsh treatment Russian speakers in Ukraine have received from successive, corrupt, governments in Kyiv.

BS.

US soldiers on their hands and knees at the bottom of Putin's aircraft stairs laying out the red carpet.... anyway never get a second chance to make a first impression well done......😉

23 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

Zelenskyy in his brain addled ninkumpoop posturing doesn't get it and don't get much. Why would Russia give a rats rectum about a cease fire when they are winning! Stupid people saying and doing stupid things. Trump will provide the solution, resolutions, peace agreements, etc AND MORE beginning Monday and THEN in October collect his Nobel peace prize. How about that haters! 

Join another cult

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1 hour ago, CANSIAM said:

US soldiers on their hands and knees at the bottom of Putin's aircraft stairs laying out the red carpet.... anyway never get a second chance to make a first impression well done......😉

Trump making America into a tin pot banana republican dictatorship allied with the worst nations instead of the best.

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32 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump making America into a tin pot banana republican dictatorship allied with the worst nations instead of the best.

For those not in the <removed>it's so bloody obvious to see who Trump prefers to be in the company of, and it's never other leaders from democracies, but always the worst scum on the planet.

24 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

For those not in the <removed> it's so bloody obvious to see who Trump prefers to be in the company of, and it's never other leaders from democracies, but always the worst scum on the planet.

 

@BLMFemYou really do suffer, LOL !!! 🍆 

 

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