15 hours ago, digger70 said:

 This is enough No more pussy footing around  Get Serious.

Send all the Illegals and non registered ones back to where they came from .

Stop the boats from entering the UK  .

If need be sink the boats  before they enter UK waters .

Let the Navy pick up any survivors and take them back to were they came from .

Some Do Gooders  won't like this but hey they can pick them up and look after them if not Shut Up.

 

Why not go the whole hog and publicly execute anyone who commits any crime in the UK?

 

I'm sure all law abiding people will be only too willing to dispose of the bodies and help with the general clean-up afterwards.

13 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Why not go the whole hog and publicly execute anyone who commits any crime in the UK?

 

   Would that include not paying the TV license ?

34 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Would that include not paying the TV license ?

 

Good question.

 

Maybe the offence should be de-criminalised? However, in the meantime in order to be consistent the answer has to be 'Yes'.

 

Perhaps, a more humane method of execution could be used for this offence? Single shot to the head rather than a public stoning? 

1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

Good question.

 

Maybe the offence should be de-criminalised? However, in the meantime in order to be consistent the answer has to be 'Yes'.

 

Perhaps, a more humane method of execution could be used for this offence? Single shot to the head rather than a public stoning? 

What about the MPs telling porkies?

9 hours ago, Donga said:

1. Tow them back out to sea
2. If that's too harsh, and don't see why not as they are illegal - don't provide any assistance at all and watch that stem the flow.

Against all existing laws. !

10 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The Dublin agreement was virtually useless: 

 

Dublin agreement on returning asylum seekers is almost completely useless

Around 50% more asylum seekers were transferred to the UK under the Dublin Regulation than were sent back from Britain to other European countries over the past two years.

It has also emerged that only one in ten of UK requests for the return of asylum seekers under the EU’s Dublin regulations in 2016 led to actual transfers to other European countries

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/press-release/528

 

I was referring to "the small boats", not all asylum seekers.

4 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Why not go the whole hog and publicly execute anyone who commits any crime in the UK?

 

I'm sure all law abiding people will be only too willing to dispose of the bodies and help with the general clean-up afterwards.

 

Why not create a silly Strawman because you have nothing left to offer?

 

Oh wait, you already did. 

UK Government is far to busy bootlicking the Donald or handing out billions to NATO or Ukraine...so  governance in their castles in London may not even be aware of the migrant crisis ?

5 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Good question.

 

Maybe the offence should be de-criminalised? However, in the meantime in order to be consistent the answer has to be 'Yes'.

 

Perhaps, a more humane method of execution could be used for this offence? Single shot to the head rather than a public stoning? 

 

   What if the people do not have a television and therefore do not need a TV license ?

7 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Why not go the whole hog and publicly execute anyone who commits any crime in the UK?

 

I'm sure all law abiding people will be only too willing to dispose of the bodies and help with the general clean-up afterwards.

No need to dispose of the bodies , Sink the boats  the Ocean does the rest. 

People have to get Very Serious to Protect their country No one is doing much about this giant problem .

No good Pussy  footing around .

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why not create a silly Strawman because you have nothing left to offer?

 

Oh wait, you already did. 

 

Strawman, yes. Silly, no.

 

What's the argument for sinking boats carrying illegal immigrants in the Channel? Presumably, that it will act as a deterrent to others. No doubt those who support this measure will argue that any victims only have themselves to blame. A similar argument can be applied to any other crime.

 

So consideration also has to be given to 1) proportionality and 2) the moral justification for taking an action. Do you consider it proportionate to risk killing someone for illegally entering a country? Do you think it morally justifiable to do so?

 

I'd answer 'No' to both questions. 

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

Strawman, yes. Silly, no.

 

What's the argument for sinking boats carrying illegal immigrants in the Channel? Presumably, that it will act as a deterrent to others. No doubt those who support this measure will argue that any victims only have themselves to blame. A similar argument can be applied to any other crime.

 

So consideration also has to be given to 1) proportionality and 2) the moral justification for taking an action. Do you consider it proportionate to risk killing someone for illegally entering a country? Do you think it morally justifiable to do so?

 

I'd answer 'No' to both questions. 

 

I have never supported nor even suggested sinking the boats.

 

I'm not sure who did, but maybe address the question to them. 

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What if the people do not have a television and therefore do not need a TV license ?

 

Then they haven't committed a crime. Ergo, they should not be punished.

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I have never supported nor even suggested sinking the boats.

 

I'm not sure who did, but maybe address the question to them. 

 

Good. Then we both agree that sinking the boats in mid-Channel is a morally corrupt act.

 

Which begs the question: Why do you choose to reply to my comment in the first place if you agree with my position.

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Then they haven't committed a crime. Ergo, they should not be punished.

 

   That's relief, the BBC keep sending me letters telling me to get a TV licence and that they are coming around to visit .

   I do listen to Radio 1 sometimes though

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

Then why do you choose to reply to me in the first place if you don't support the measure?

 

I was calling out your ridiculous strawman (below). 

 

10 hours ago, RayC said:

Why not go the whole hog and publicly execute anyone who commits any crime in the UK?

 

I'm sure all law abiding people will be only too willing to dispose of the bodies and help with the general clean-up afterwards.

 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 That's relief, the BBC keep sending me letters telling me to get a TV licence and that they are coming around to visit .

 

Yes they have a habit of extorting money from the public to pay for their state funded leftist propaganda. 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That's relief, the BBC keep sending me letters telling me to get a TV licence and that they are coming around to visit .

   I do listen to Radio 1 sometimes though

 

 

If you don’t need a licence, you must declare this formally to TV Licensing. Otherwise, they may assume you’re liable and could initiate enforcement procedures. You can do this via their official declaration form.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes they have a habit of extorting money from the public to pay for their state funded leftist propaganda. 

 

   I had a guy from the electric company come around and read my electric meter under stairs .

   After reading the electric meter he told me that he also is working for the BBC and he has the right to check for a television because I didn't have a TV licence .

   He then opened my living room door and looked inside .

I just laughed and said "I told you that I didn't have a TV, didn't I"

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

If you don’t need a licence, you must declare this formally to TV Licensing. Otherwise, they may assume you’re liable and could initiate enforcement procedures. You can do this via their official declaration form.

 

   I refuse to do that again .

I've already told them once .

They send me  letters frequently stating that will begin a prosecution 

 

3 hours ago, digger70 said:

No need to dispose of the bodies , Sink the boats  the Ocean does the rest. 

People have to get Very Serious to Protect their country No one is doing much about this giant problem .

No good Pussy  footing around .

So murder them then?

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

I was calling out your ridiculous strawman (below). 

 

 

 

I can't apologise for using a ridiculous Strawman argument to counter the morally corrupt proposition that the boats are sunk mid-Channel. It is more than it deserves.

 

However, I am disappointed that I have offended your sensitivities and spoilt what otherwise would have been a rare moment of agreement between us: Oh well, never mind.

10 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

So murder them then?

They made the choice to Invade a country .

They are Illegal ,one has the right to protect ones country They don't want to listen .

To me that's War , War casualties are  inevitable.

6 hours ago, digger70 said:

They made the choice to Invade a country .

They are Illegal ,one has the right to protect ones country They don't want to listen .

To me that's War , War casualties are  inevitable.

Aren't you just an absolute delight!

Fortunately most sane people would see your comments as being utterly appalling.

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Aren't you just an absolute delight!

Fortunately most sane people would see your comments as being utterly appalling.

Well what do you want hey Let the illegals/Invaders ,take over the country That's what happening now.

  Now you can call the UK the    Middle east UK .

Happy now that the UK people be in the minority soon and have nothing to say about things happening in  Their country ones it belongs to the INVADERS. 

Grow a Pair and and  stand up for your country Don't be a Pussy.

33 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Well what do you want hey Let the illegals/Invaders ,take over the country That's what happening now.

  Now you can call the UK the    Middle east UK .

Happy now that the UK people be in the minority soon and have nothing to say about things happening in  Their country ones it belongs to the INVADERS. 

Grow a Pair and and  stand up for your country Don't be a Pussy.

Hmm, so approximately 800,000 illegal migrants are taking over a country with a population of nearly 70 million 🤣

 

 

Decistion today in the High Court by three appeal judges regarding the Hotel Asylum seekers who are put up in Hotels in the UK. Today the Bell Hotel that has seen the worst Demonstrations against the Government plans to house them have to leave. My thoughts are the judges will have been leaned on to agree on behalf of the Governments decistion. If the councils are defeated The country will Demonstrate more.

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Hmm, so approximately 800,000 illegal migrants are taking over a country with a population of nearly 70 million 🤣

 

 

Won't happen overnight but it will happen just look at the chaos they are causing and the financial burden on the country ,the money from the taxpayers .

The money that 's for the  UK country needy people.

18 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Decistion today in the High Court by three appeal judges regarding the Hotel Asylum seekers who are put up in Hotels in the UK. Today the Bell Hotel that has seen the worst Demonstrations against the Government plans to house them have to leave. My thoughts are the judges will have been leaned on to agree on behalf of the Governments decistion. If the councils are defeated The country will Demonstrate more.

 

 

"My thoughts are the judges will have been leaned on......."

 

Seriously?

 

If it were shown that the UK government had improperly influenced judges to secure a favourable ruling, the consequences would be constitutionally seismic. 

They are not asylum seekers, they are economic parasites.