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Nigel Farage has sparked a political firestorm by suggesting his party would renegotiate the Good Friday Agreement. This bold move is part of Reform UK’s strategy to tacklesmall boat crossings to England.d. Farage announced his intentions at a news conference, revealing plans to deport up to 600,000 asylum seekers if his party takes power.

 

Farage proposes exiting the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), replacing it with a British Bill of Rights to apply only to British citizens and legal residents. This has drawn criticism, as the ECHR is integral to the Good Friday Agreement. A Downing Street spokesperson dismissed the proposal, adding, "Anyone who is proposing to renegotiate the Good Friday Agreement is not serious."

 

When pressed on the implications of leaving the ECHR, Farage conceded that renegotiating the Good Friday Agreement wouldn't be swift, due to past governments' actions regarding Northern Ireland. Despite his assurance of eventual success, critics, including Downing Street, remind us that the ECHR underpins vital international agreements associated with peace and trade.

 

Nigel Farage is not alone in suggesting a break from the ECHR; the Conservative Party has flirted with the idea for years. However, the challenge remains: how would such a move impact peace in Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement? When directly questioned, Farage appeared uncertain, indicating a longer timeframe for negotiations involving Northern Ireland.

 

Political analysts suggest that winning the next general election is crucial before any such plans can materialise. Although Reform UK leads in current polls, the election is over three years away—ample time for the landscape to change.

 

Further criticism came from Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch, who accused Farage’s party of mimicking Tory policies. She highlighted that the Conservatives would decide on the ECHR’s future at their annual conference in October.

 

COlum Eastwood, the former leader of the SDLP, dismissed Nigel Farage’s plans as "tired, empty rhetoric" that overlooks the complexities of the legal framework established by the Good Friday Agreement. Eastwood asserts that the narrow vision promoted by Farage could drive people on the island towards a new future, away from divisive politics.

 

The controversy underscores the complexities facing those who aim to pivot British politics in new directions, particularly regarding sensitive international agreements like the Good Friday Agreement.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from [source] 2025-08-27

 

Farage is almost begging for the IRA to take up arms again. Best let sleeping dogs lie.

 

The more he speaks, the more people will become aware of how dangerous his policies are.  

Scaremongering.

 

They are starting to panic that we will actually leave the ECHR. They realize it's now a real possibility.

 

Saw the same thing in the lead up to Brexit. They didn't take it seriously until it was too late. Treated us like garbage thinking we'd never actually do it. 

 

The ECHR needs to take some lessons from the EU and roll it's neck in before it's too late.   

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Scaremongering.

 

They are starting to panic that we will actually leave the ECHR. They realize it's now a real possibility.

 

Saw the same thing in the lead up to Brexit. They didn't take it seriously until it was too late. Treated us like garbage thinking we'd never actually do it. 

 

The ECHR needs to take some lessons from the EU and roll it's neck in before it's too late.   

 

For a change I agree with you.  Brexit wasn't considered a real possibility by Cameron and the Remainers, until it was too late. Very foolish and now we're paying the price.

19 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The more he speaks, the more people will become aware of how dangerous his policies are.  

You really think so?

Back in the brexit campaign he claimed Turkey would  become part of the EU and 60 million turks would come to the UK. A large percentage believed him and decided to kick the EU in the teeth.

The UK is very dependent on EU countries to help reduce migrant traffic and what happened after brexit? Only to be expected the boat crossings escalated.

Fast forward 10 years and here we go again with him proposing to kick the EU in the teeth again. The EU funded the Belfast Agreement and are not going to respond well to it being torn up, not that the UK population would be too bothered. Enough smoke and you can't see daylight.

Farage is not looking for success on the migrant issue, looking more to becoming the first governor of the 51st state.

20 hours ago, Purdey said:

Farage is almost begging for the IRA to take up arms again. Best let sleeping dogs lie.

 

I would very much doubt it.

The more likely outcome would be a referendum on reunification.

That now could very much fail, the affluent south no longer wants the impoverished north.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

For a change I agree with you.  Brexit wasn't considered a real possibility by Cameron and the Remainers, until it was too late. Very foolish and now we're paying the price.

 

Paying the price with a better deal with the US than the EU got? 😆

7 minutes ago, sandyf said:

You really think so?

Back in the brexit campaign he claimed Turkey would  become part of the EU and 60 million turks would come to the UK. A large percentage believed him and decided to kick the EU in the teeth.

The UK is very dependent on EU countries to help reduce migrant traffic and what happened after brexit? Only to be expected the boat crossings escalated.

Fast forward 10 years and here we go again with him proposing to kick the EU in the teeth again. The EU funded the Belfast Agreement and are not going to respond well to it being torn up, not that the UK population would be too bothered. Enough smoke and you can't see daylight.

Farage is not looking for success on the migrant issue, looking more to becoming the first governor of the 51st state.

2010 

Cameron 'anger' at slow pace of Turkish EU negotiations

David Cameron has promised to "fight" for Turkey's membership of the European Union, saying he is "angry" at the slow pace of negotiations.

He compared hostility to the membership bid in some parts of the EU with the way the UK's entry was once regarded.

At a joint press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Mr Cameron suggested the UK would impose provisional restrictions - as with Bulgarians and Romanians after they joined - on the right of Turkish people to live and work in the UK after it joined the EU.

But the rapid rate of Turkey's economic growth would make any restrictions unncessary in decades to come, he added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-10767768

The EU has spent billions of euros on Turkey accession to the EU

Farage, the Uk's very own Trump.

Disgusting troublemaker. 

21 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The more he speaks, the more people will become aware of how dangerous his policies are.  

If that's your opinion then I'm definitely backing him.

On 8/27/2025 at 9:03 AM, webfact said:

by suggesting his party

 

 

 

There must be a minimum number of seats you have to hold to called yourself a party, surely?......four MP's ?

 

Tice lives in Dubai to dodge taxes, no one knows where Farage lives......someone posted they were moving to Clacton to reduce their chances of bumping into him......one of the MPs is even a woman....yes a woman.

4 hours ago, vinny41 said:

2010 

Cameron 'anger' at slow pace of Turkish EU negotiations

David Cameron has promised to "fight" for Turkey's membership of the European Union, saying he is "angry" at the slow pace of negotiations.

He compared hostility to the membership bid in some parts of the EU with the way the UK's entry was once regarded.

At a joint press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Mr Cameron suggested the UK would impose provisional restrictions - as with Bulgarians and Romanians after they joined - on the right of Turkish people to live and work in the UK after it joined the EU.

But the rapid rate of Turkey's economic growth would make any restrictions unncessary in decades to come, he added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-10767768

The EU has spent billions of euros on Turkey accession to the EU

Just spit it out, you agree with brexit because you believed 60 million turks would come to the UK.

 

Only the delusional would think that there is any chance of Turkey joining the EU before the capital   punishment issue is put to bed, not going to happen in Erdogan's lifetime.

Indeed,  the EU had already spent the money before they realised they had been taken for a ride.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkeys-erdogan-says-ready-back-reinstating-death-penalty-media-2022-07-01/

 

4 hours ago, sandyf said:

You really think so?

Back in the brexit campaign he claimed Turkey would  become part of the EU and 60 million turks would come to the UK.

 

   Could you post a link to that claim ?

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Could you post a link to that claim ?

Apologies, memory not as it was and I got the figure wrong, his claim was 75 Million.

"The Ukip leader claimed Brussels is currently thrashing out a deal with Turkey - which has a population of 77 million - which would give ALL Turks the option of living in Britain."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/661387/Migrant-crisis-Nigel-Farage-Turkey-EU-visa-free-travel

 

When he stood on the stage making the speech and waving his passport in the air, it was all made out to be a foregone conclusion.

This appeared on FB

1 minute ago, sandyf said:

Apologies, memory not as it was and I got the figure wrong, his claim was 75 Million.

"The Ukip leader claimed Brussels is currently thrashing out a deal with Turkey - which has a population of 77 million - which would give ALL Turks the option of living in Britain."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/661387/Migrant-crisis-Nigel-Farage-Turkey-EU-visa-free-travel

 

When he stood on the stage making the speech and waving his passport in the air, it was all made out to be a foregone conclusion.

This appeared on FB

 

   It says that the Turks would have the option of living in the UK .

You made a different claim . stating that 60 Million Turks would go and live in the UK, rather than just having the option of doing so .

    Two different things 

 

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Just spit it out, you agree with brexit because you believed 60 million turks would come to the UK.

 

Only the delusional would think that there is any chance of Turkey joining the EU before the capital   punishment issue is put to bed, not going to happen in Erdogan's lifetime.

Indeed,  the EU had already spent the money before they realised they had been taken for a ride.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkeys-erdogan-says-ready-back-reinstating-death-penalty-media-2022-07-01/

 

1. The offer of concessions by the European Union to Turkey as part of a deal agreed in March 2016 to stem the flow of illegal crossings into Greece includes a promise to re-invigorate negotiations for Turkish membership of the EU. The UK government reportedly predicted in 2014 that Turkey could be ready for membership ‘in a decade or so’, as early as 2024. Should accession go ahead as envisaged, the EU’s current free movement rules mean that, after a period of transition of possibly seven years, a population of what is currently 79 million Turks would gain full access to Britain’s labour market.

 Annex A outlines our own estimate that the eventual net inflow from Turkey could, in the light of the UK’s experience with migration from Eastern Europe, be well in excess of 100,000 a year. Thus, leaving aside the argument over the timing of her accession, it is clear that the prospect of another wave of migration from Turkey is one of the longer-term risks of the UK remaining a member of the EU. Annex B assesses the recent Vote Leave estimate.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/383#summary

As per your link

Turkey abolished capital punishment in 2004

 

On 8/27/2025 at 1:56 PM, Purdey said:

Farage is almost begging for the IRA to take up arms again. Best let sleeping dogs lie.

 

 

If you look what's going on in Ireland it may well be that the Irish might want a revised agreement too.

7 hours ago, sandyf said:

You really think so?

Back in the brexit campaign he claimed Turkey would  become part of the EU and 60 million turks would come to the UK. A large percentage believed him and decided to kick the EU in the teeth.

The UK is very dependent on EU countries to help reduce migrant traffic and what happened after brexit? Only to be expected the boat crossings escalated.

Fast forward 10 years and here we go again with him proposing to kick the EU in the teeth again. The EU funded the Belfast Agreement and are not going to respond well to it being torn up, not that the UK population would be too bothered. Enough smoke and you can't see daylight.

Farage is not looking for success on the migrant issue, looking more to becoming the first governor of the 51st state.

 

Rubbish, it is the existence of the EU and it's policies that have largely enabled this migration.

16 hours ago, vinny41 said:

Turkey abolished capital punishment in 2004

Is that supposed to mean the EU should ignore the talk of reinstatement.

15 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Rubbish, it is the existence of the EU and it's policies that have largely enabled this migration.

Are you trying to say boat crossings have not increased since brexit.

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It says that the Turks would have the option of living in the UK .

You made a different claim . stating that 60 Million Turks would go and live in the UK, rather than just having the option of doing so .

    Two different things 

 

You shouldn't start telling lies, I never made any claim.

I saw Nigel Farage say in a speech that when Turkey joined the EU they would all be free to come to the UK with the emphasis on "would come".

Media articles at the time took the same interpretation and effectively swayed the brexit vote.

You are entitled to your opinion but do not try and distort what gets said in doing so.

23 hours ago, sandyf said:

You really think so?

Back in the brexit campaign he claimed Turkey would  become part of the EU and 60 million turks would come to the UK.

 

16 minutes ago, sandyf said:

You shouldn't start telling lies, I never made any claim.

 

 

   I am not telling lies .

You did indeed make a claim .

I reposted your claim above .

Do you have a link to back up your claims about 60 million Turks would  go to live in the UK ?

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Are you trying to say boat crossings have not increased since brexit.

 

You can see what I am saying. This freedom of movement pillar has been abused by both the EU, the migrants and the criminal gangs that are allowed to operate there. Brexit was seen by leave voters as a way of controlling this but successive EU-sympathetic UK governments have done the opposite. Merkel was effectively the dictator of the EU and made everything worse, especially in 2015. She probably got Brexit over the line with that but as just one of the consequences of her mad actions.

As Reform goes from Strengh to Strengh the labour party will start the blame game on Farage and start to blame everything on him. I know its old hat but Enoch told us all in his river of blood speach what will happen if its allowed to carry on and it happened with unlimited migration. Farage also told us years ago unless its halted it will cost the UK, he to was ignored now we have a potential security risk because illegals have entered unchecked. Farage also understood Brussels was bullying us and he told Senior Euro MPs in the European Parliment, he could see them for what they were and he told them, they didn't like it but all he said was right.

On 8/28/2025 at 3:02 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Could you post a link to that claim ?

Erm….the disgusting “Breaking Point” poster that proudly smirked in front of.

2 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Erm….the disgusting “Breaking Point” poster that proudly smirked in front of.

 

   Pardon ,

Could you say that again ?

23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   I am not telling lies .

You did indeed make a claim .

I reposted your claim above .

Do you have a link to back up your claims about 60 million Turks would  go to live in the UK ?

Apologies if my words "he claimed" was beyond your vocabulary.

 

Only the mentally challenged would try and interprete what was meant differently.

21 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

You can see what I am saying. This freedom of movement pillar has been abused by both the EU, the migrants and the criminal gangs that are allowed to operate there. Brexit was seen by leave voters as a way of controlling this but successive EU-sympathetic UK governments have done the opposite. Merkel was effectively the dictator of the EU and made everything worse, especially in 2015. She probably got Brexit over the line with that but as just one of the consequences of her mad actions.

What on earth makes you think that leaving the EU would give the UK any say in how the EU dealt with migrants. Mekel's decision was distorted, it was an increase to, not additional. If Merkel hadn't taken the additional migrants in, where do you think they would have ended up.

There is no dispute that the EU could have handled things better but throwing the toys out of the pram was not the answer. Most of the migrants come overland through France and assylum should have been dealt with there. As an EU member pressure could have been put on France to adhere to that principle.

You and others decided to take what leverage there was away and now struggling to get any co-operation from France which is coming at a heavy cost. Tearing up the Belfast Agreement will only make matters worse.

Of course, as the 51st state it wouldn't be a problem to have them processed in Greenland.

 

What has the ECHR ever done for us?