For the umpteenth time, I have no idea how you can logically arrive at a particular conclusion? I seem to have inadvertently become your educator, Jonny. It's not a role I particularly cherish, but while I've got it would you please try to understand the facts and then think about what rational conclusions you can derive from them. Thanks. There are parallels between Thailand and England. Not that some Thais would like to admit it but most Thais living today are mongrels; perhaps, not to the same degree as the English but mongrels nonetheless. The original indigenous 'Thais' were Mon, Khmer, Malay and other associated hunter-gatherer tribes. The Tai-Kadai tribes moved south from China between the 8th and 12th centuries and - like the Romans, Vikings and Normans in England - interbred with the local populations at the time. You may well find more 'pure' Thais than 'pure' Englishmen, but the Thai JonnyF trying desperately to justify his racism is standing on ground that is almost as shaky as yours. And there's the rub. You insist that you could never be 'Thai' no matter how hard you try to integrate and how much of a good citizen you are. In the same way, you could never view a black man as 'English' no matter how well they integrate and no matter how much they contribute to society. As I have said many times before, you try to justify this by redefining the meaning of ethnicity. You then use this false dichotomy to air your perceived grievances and blame the groups who are not like you for England's - you don't seem much bothered by the rest of the UK - problems. That attitude is de-humanising and racist, Jonny.