21 hours ago, riclag said:

Six Congressional Democrats urge military members to 'refuse illegal orders' in new video

 

21 hours ago, riclag said:

limit President Trump’s ability to deploy National Guard members domestically or launch military action against narcoterrorists without congressional approval"

 

21 hours ago, riclag said:

"stand up for our laws" and "refuse unlawful orders."

 

Change the name to "Biden" and explain why it's a bad thing.

29 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So you mean he didn't lie when he said the 2020 election was stolen and tried to stop the legal transfer of power?

Is that what you're claiming, bud?😆

I'd say  your baseless claims that Mr Trump is a pedophile is a big nothing, buddy.......

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'd say  your baseless claims that Mr Trump is a pedophile is a big nothing, buddy.......

Hopefully we'll find out soon, because Trump is so, so eager to get everything out into the open. I mean' he's been saying this for years, right?

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18 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Hopefully we'll find out soon, because Trump is so, so eager to get everything out into the open. I mean' he's been saying this for years, right?

Get back to me when you have more than baseless claims and pearl clutching......buddy......

13 hours ago, BLMFem said:

If only the current s**t show of an administration was as knowledgeable of the US constitution as you are then dozens/hundreds of people wouldn't have their rights trampled on by the US Gestapo on a daily basis!

 

 

What is the US Gestapo?

9 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yep, unlike the drug smugglers who are blown to pieces while heading to.....not the US.

Well done, blazes, you're getting there!

In the case of Obama's extradural killings, there was no imminent threat. 

21 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Nice try. Guess you didnt hear what they said.

 

Doesnt matter, a Grand Jury will decide.

Perhaps you didn't hear what they said.

 

Since you never served (bone spurs?), you might not know that folks take an oath not to some bloated wannabe autocrat coward, but to the US Constitution. All are also told that they must refuse illegal orders from anyone, where a commanding officer or the Commander-in-Chief. Time is spent detailing what "illegal" means.

 

Those Senators are merely stating the obvious, and reminding those who serve of their duty.

 

The bone spurs coward Trump said they should be hung. Let me also remind you of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty", which would be a tough slog, as there is no crime, only the rant of a crybaby child and his mindless, sheeple cult.

 

It seems it's always the armchair warriors who try to play tough.

6 minutes ago, Wingate said:

It seems it's always the armchair warriors who try to play tough.

I'm not seeing were the OP is trying to play tough.  Please show me. 

4 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I'm not seeing were the OP is trying to play tough.  Please show me. 

Note it says "armchair warriors". That's a plural.

 

And just for the remedial class of MAGA sheeple out there, reminding those who serve that they must refuse unlawful orders is not a crime, it is a duty. Duty seems to be something alien to MAGAs. Of course, when their messiah is a bone spurs coward who called men and women who serve "suckers and losers" (per Gen Kelly, who reconfirmed that in an interview---and GUARANTEED most who serve believe Gen Kelly over the coward Trump), that is hardly surprising.

3 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Note it says "armchair warriors". That's a plural.

 

And just for the remedial class of MAGA sheeple out there, reminding those who serve that they must refuse unlawful orders is not a crime, it is a duty. Duty seems to be something alien to MAGAs. Of course, when their messiah is a bone spurs coward who called men and women who serve "suckers and losers" (per Gen Kelly, who reconfirmed that in an interview---and GUARANTEED most who serve believe Gen Kelly over the coward Trump), that is hardly surprising.

 

OMG..this is your typical Ad hominem attack. 

 

Can you name an unlawful order? 

7 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Note it says "armchair warriors". That's a plural.

 

And just for the remedial class of MAGA sheeple out there, reminding those who serve that they must refuse unlawful orders is not a crime, it is a duty. Duty seems to be something alien to MAGAs. Of course, when their messiah is a bone spurs coward who called men and women who serve "suckers and losers" (per Gen Kelly, who reconfirmed that in an interview---and GUARANTEED most who serve believe Gen Kelly over the coward Trump), that is hardly surprising.

You must have been a real pain in the ass. I worked with guys like you. Couldn't get anything done, always complaining.

15 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Can you name an unlawful order? 

Of course not LOL

On 11/19/2025 at 4:25 PM, riclag said:

 The left can't win elections without their style of Dem Democracy, in this case  encouraging military to disobey orders from the Commander & chief.

Six Congressional Democrats urge military members to 'refuse illegal orders' in new video

 

"Slotkin and her colleagues have spent recent weeks introducing legislation to limit President Trump’s ability to deploy National Guard members domestically or launch military action against narcoterrorists without congressional approval".

"None of that context appears in the video, titled "Don’t Give Up the Ship," which instead frames the appeal as a warning to military members to "stand up for our laws" and "refuse unlawful orders."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-urge-military-members-refuse-illegal-orders-viral-video-hegseth-responds

 

The Story is based on a FoxNews report

Do you mean "Dem Democracy as in the 2020 Presidential election?

 

Or do you mean MAGA autocracy and hypocrisy like....well, just do a search for 6 January 2021.

26 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You must have been a real pain in the ass. I worked with guys like you. Couldn't get anything done, always complaining.

LOL.

 

Worked where? You never served, so I guess like the OP, maybe you were a truck driver, too?

 

You've got nothing, old man.

18 hours ago, billd766 said:

As is murdering civilians on small boats in international waters under ANY excuse.

Thats not being done. FOREIGN Terrorists attacking America are being interdicted in international waters, thats whats happening. Unless you are on the side of the terrs

22 hours ago, Yagoda said:

No one is above the law. They should be investigated.

 

Just now, BKKKevin said:

 

Wow. What a brilliant riposte. 

21 minutes ago, Wingate said:

LOL.

 

Worked where? You never served, so I guess like the OP, maybe you were a truck driver, too?

 

You've got nothing, old man.

You do realize truck drivers make more than most college grads, don't you? 

 

My USN time nor my GS rating is really none of your business. Like I said, I worked with guys just like you. Worthless workers, always complaining. Unlike you, I don't look down on anyone's job. I showed the same respect to those who served me as those who commanded me.

32 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. What a brilliant riposte. 

 

Pointing out your hypocrisy is like shooting pigs in a barrel...

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

 

Pound that keyboard with the insane screams of the loser. 

Guessing again...........

8 minutes ago, BKKKevin said:

 

Pointing out your hypocrisy is like shooting pigs in a barrel...

Pointing out your intellectual dishonesty and rote cult screeching is like shooting pigs in a barrel...

19 hours ago, riclag said:

Dems are asking  to put military personnel life at risk and thats wrong ,says a former CIA agent...

 

 

Ya numb skull one of those senators is mark Kelley……now I know to a person such as yourself puts more weight behind a New York City trust fund baby convicted felon and sexual assaulter….than a combat veteran naval pilot space shuttle commander senator who’s wife was shot by some right wing nut……so please spare me the foe outrage.btw I have a feeling there’s a strong possibility senator Kelley is a strong contender for president.

32 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Pointing out your intellectual dishonesty and rote cult screeching is like shooting pigs in a barrel...

 

Now your projecting.... 

46 minutes ago, BKKKevin said:

 

Now your projecting.... 

Aw isnt that cute? Hes using big words now.

22 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Collective statement (all six lawmakers together):

 

“Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.”

 

Rep. Chris Deluzio (D‑Pa., Navy veteran):

 

“You must refuse illegal orders.”

 

Group statement (Slotkin, Kelly, Deluzio, Houlahan, Goodlander, and one additional member):

 

“Like us, you all swore an oath to protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.” — This line sets up the reminder about refusing illegal orders

 

So was this about refusing to obey illegal orders?

Yes. The thread is very badly titled, probably deliberately.

3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

In the case of Obama's extradural killings, there was no imminent threat. 

For which he was harshly criticized by progressives.

22 hours ago, riclag said:

A Pinch  yourself moment,  the Dems are calling for the military to essentially stand down ,

Funny, I am having a pinch myself moment this morning, the President of The United States is suggesting the death penalty for these Senators!

 

Let's not wrap this up in semantics, he is calling for the death penalty for political opponents, because they said something entirely legal to which he took exception. He really has taken The United States down a very dark rabbit hole remarkably quickly!

5 minutes ago, JAG said:

He really has taken The United States down a very dark rabbit hole remarkably quickly!

While being cheered on by his supporters without any sign of reflection.

Sometimes for reasons of space allowed for headlines by the forum, it's necessary to abridge a headline But in this case 6

 

Dem Senators urge Military to refuse illegal orders, News, would have fit in the allotted space with no problem. So why the omission of illegal?