Over 70,000 Palestinians have reportedly been killed since Israel's military campaign in Gaza began, according to the Hamas-run health ministry. Despite a ceasefire that started on 10 October, airstrikes continue as Israel responds to alleged violations. The grim toll highlights the ongoing humanitarian crisis in the region.

 

The offensive began following a Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, which resulted in approximately 1,200 Israeli deaths and 251 hostages. Gaza’s Health Ministry, which provides figures considered credible by the United Nations, states that over 70,100 Palestinians have died, with upwards of 350 fatalities occurring since the ceasefire. Israel disputes these numbers, raising questions about the accuracy of the reported figures.

 

Among the casualties are two young brothers, Fadi and Juma Abu Assi, killed by an Israeli drone strike while gathering firewood. The boys, aged eight and around 10 or 11, died near Khan Younis in southern Gaza. Their deaths are mourned as their funeral was held at Nasser Hospital. The Israeli Defense Forces reported targeting two suspects crossing the “yellow line” border under the ceasefire agreement, attempting to justify their actions.

 

Journalists, including those from the BBC, are unable to independently verify the figures due to the heavy restrictions on international access to Gaza. This limitation adds to the contested nature of the statistics, as disputed narratives unfold on both sides. The ongoing conflict highlights the challenges of achieving lasting peace amidst continued violence.

 

Looking ahead, the situation remains tense as both sides seem to cling to their conflicting narratives and accusations. We expect continued international diplomatic efforts to foster peace and address the dire humanitarian conditions in Gaza. The future remains uncertain as the world watches closely for potential developments, reported the BBC.

 

Key Takeaways

 

• Over 70,000 Palestinians reported killed since the conflict began.
• Israel’s ongoing strikes follow alleged truce violations.
• Accurate casualty figures remain contested and unverified.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from BBC 2025-11-30

 

 

 

I wonder whether they still think that invading Israel was a good idea ?

Next Putin will be complaining about the number of Russians killed in a conflict HE started

52 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I wonder whether they still think that invading Israel was a good idea ?

IMO it was a measure response, to the savagery of the October 7 raid. Sadly a repeat might be needed, Arabs only understand force. Right now, as the US  isn't reliable anymore Israel must work hard on upgrading our defence industry, not unlike the post 1967 war era.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I wonder whether they still think that invading Israel was a good idea ?

 

The dead obviously don’t think anything.

 

Did 70,000 Palestinians invade Israel?

 

We both know they did not.

 

This is a collective punishment, a war crime.

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

The dead obviously don’t think anything.

 

Did 70,000 Palestinians invade Israel?

 

We both know they did not.

 

This is a collective punishment, a war crime.

 

What were the people in Hisroshima punished for?

 

The people of Gaza didn't hand over the criminals who had perpetrated to October 7 massacre, quite the contrary, so they were accomplices.

5 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

What were the people in Hisroshima punished for?

 

The people of Gaza didn't hand over the criminals who had perpetrated to October 7 massacre, quite the contrary, so they were accomplices.

But but but Hiroshima.

 

The Rome Statute was not in place in 1945, it is now.

 

Hanas are a violent terrorist organization, they ruthlessly oppress the people of Gaza, they are not a ‘free people’ able to turnover their armed and violent criminal oppressors.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

The dead obviously don’t think anything.

 

Did 70,000 Palestinians invade Israel?

 

We both know they did not.

 

This is a collective punishment, a war crime.

 

 

   Yes, 20 000 of those 70 000 Palestinians did indeed invade Israel .

The 70 000 figure includes Hamas who died 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, 20 000 of those 70 000 Palestinians did indeed invade Israel .

The 70 000 figure includes Hamas who died 

So no, 70,000 did not invade Israel.

 

Collective punishment of civilian populations is a war crime.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

So no, 70,000 did not invade Israel.

 

Collective punishment of civilian populations is a war crime.

 

   20 000 of them did .

Taking hostages is a war crime (Palestinian crimes).

Civilians dying in wars ISNT  war crime .

Your side are the war criminals 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   20 000 of them did .

Taking hostages is a war crime (Palestinian crimes).

Civilians dying in wars ISNT  war crime .

Your side are the war criminals 

I’ve never seen any confirmation that 20,000 of the 70,000 Palestinians slaughtered by Israel were amongst those who undertook the heinous October 7 Hamas attack on Israel, perhaps you have and of so please share.

 

This thread is not about the Hamas war crime of taking hostages.

 

Civilians being slaughtered on mass in a war is a war crime.

I don’t have a side.

 

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve never seen any confirmation that 20,000 of the 70,000 Palestinians slaughtered by Israel were amongst those who undertook the heinous October 7 Hamas attack on Israel, perhaps you have and of so please share.

 

 

   Israeli reports .

You wont believe then anyway because they are from Israel .

Merge Hamas in with the civilian population to give  grand total of 70 000

Hamas have a habit of hiding among the civilian population 

59 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

What were the people in Hisroshima punished for?

 

The people of Gaza didn't hand over the criminals who had perpetrated to October 7 massacre, quite the contrary, so they were accomplices.

 

But what they did do, was try and kill the hostages as they were paraded around - Hamas stopping them as they would be more valuable alive than dead - The Palestinian people voted Hamas into Government and stayed silent as Hamas built a tunnel network like no other, and fired rockets into Israel every few days, over many years - They are the authors of their own mis-fortune  - Sick of turning the other cheek and after the 7th October incident - Israel retaliated - Now any level headed Palestinian with a wife and kids, seeing their homes being flattened,  would have told the Israelis where the terrorists / hostages were - Did they ? - Nope - because they would rather be bombed out of their home and live in a tent for the rest of their lives, rather than help Israel ...

 

Incidentally, i'd read that if 100 trucks were used to clear all the rubble from Palestine, it would take 15 years ....  

58 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But but but Hiroshima.

 

The Rome Statute was not in place in 1945, it is now.

If one followed your stupid reasoning one could say that the Nazi leaders were unjustly sentenced because the Rome Statute wasn't in force...

 

But, while I haven't given much thought to this impotent treaty, I doubt it denies the right of nation to defend itself.

22 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

If one followed your stupid reasoning one could say that the Nazi leaders were unjustly sentenced because the Rome Statute wasn't in force...

 

But, while I haven't given much thought to this impotent treaty, I doubt it denies the right of nation to defend itself.

‘Stupid reasoning’ you say.

 

The Nazi leadership were tried under the London Agreement and Charter of the International Military Tribunal 1945, together with 

The Hague Conventions (1899 and 1907)

The Geneva Conventions (especially the 1929 version)

 

The London Agreement and Charter of the International Tribunal 1945 makes for the first time ‘war of  aggression’ a war crime. 
 

Hiroshima to Nuremberg, to where will you stray next I wonder?

 

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Hiroshima to Nuremberg, to where will you stray next I wonder?

 

 

Straying? Gotta be joking, just exposing the prevalent anti-semitic, double standards...

2 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

 

Straying? Gotta be joking, just exposing the prevalent anti-semitic, double standards...

Correcting your patently false arguments and weak grip of history is ‘anti-Semitic’?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Correcting your patently false arguments and weak grip of history is ‘anti-Semitic’?

 

 

 

Well, getting funny now, I've never claimed the academic high ground, only common sense and clear vision untainted by any form of racism. 

 

Anyhow, you are useless, Bye.

70,000 which includes Hamas fighters and human shield deaths.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Correcting your patently false arguments and weak grip of history is ‘anti-Semitic’?

 

Holding Israel to a standard not applied to other nation IS antisemitism, according to the working definition used by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance.  It notes that ".. criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic,"  but also gives as one of its examples of antisemitism:   "Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation."   https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

 

That's why comparisons to to the Allied bombing of Germany and Japan in WWII are relevant and on topic.  The U.S. and the U.K. killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese and German civilians with its strategic bombing campaigns, yet its forces were never accused of war crimes or collective punishment. What Israel did to Gaza is no different than what the Allies did to German and Japanese cities.

 

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve never seen any confirmation that 20,000 of the 70,000 Palestinians slaughtered by Israel were amongst those who undertook the heinous October 7 Hamas attack on Israe

 

Hamas' leadership ordered the Oct. 7 attacks, which makes the entire group and all its members legitimate targets for retaliation, including members who didn't take active part in the Oct 7 incursion into Israel.  To prevent similar attacks in the future,  Israel has to destroy Hamas, which means killing as many members as it can and destroying as much of Hamas' tunnel infrastructure as possible.  

 

As has been stated many times now,  urban warfare and aerial bombardment in a densely populated area like Gaza, coupled with Hamas' overriding strategy of using human shields, resulted in high civilian deaths.  These deaths are not war crimes nor collective, but a tragic result of circumstances brought about by Hamas.

 

10 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

IMO it was a measure response, to the savagery of the October 7 raid. Sadly a repeat might be needed, Arabs only understand force. Right now, as the US  isn't reliable anymore Israel must work hard on upgrading our defence industry, not unlike the post 1967 war era.

Saying “Arabs only understand force” is not a political argument - it’s a sweeping generalisation about an entire ethnic group of hundreds of millions of people. That kind of language doesn’t describe Hamas or the October 7 attackers; it labels all Arabs as inherently violent, which is precisely what racial prejudice looks like.

It’s especially striking coming from an Israeli, given the ongoing apartheid policies in Israel and the blockade of Gaza. You'll probably deny there are Jewish only roads and thousands of administrative detainees who have had no trial, many for years, and including hundreds of child 'hostages'. These policies systematically affect Palestinians’ lives, and framing all Arabs as “savage” ignores the context of occupation, oppression, and humanitarian crisis. 

Out of interest, do you think Jewish Israelis are superior to Arab ones?

24 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Saying “Arabs only understand force” is not a political argument - it’s a sweeping generalisation about an entire ethnic group of hundreds of millions of people. That kind of language doesn’t describe Hamas or the October 7 attackers; it labels all Arabs as inherently violent, which is precisely what racial prejudice looks like.

Tell me which Arab countries didn't attack Israel in 1967 and 1973.

21 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

Tell me which Arab countries didn't attack Israel in 1967 and 1973.

Answer my question first.

47 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

Tell me which Arab countries didn't attack Israel in 1967 and 1973.

Israel started the 1967 war, surprise surprise 😂 

The countries that did not attack Israel:in 1967

• Iraq  

• Lebanon

• Saudi Arabia

• Kuwait

• Algeria

• Morocco

• Tunisia

• Sudan

• Libya

You have persecution complex.

8 hours ago, JimCM said:

Israel started the 1967 war, surprise surprise 😂 

The countries that did not attack Israel:in 1967

• Iraq  

• Lebanon

• Saudi Arabia

• Kuwait

• Algeria

• Morocco

• Tunisia

• Sudan

• Libya

You have persecution complex.

Does the word "Arab League" ring a bell?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League_and_the_Arab–Israeli_conflict

 

If you believe anything Hamas says, you likely believe in the tooth fairy too.  Hamas started this years ago by building tunnels, hide in schools and hospitals, wear civilian clothes, rule by terror even shooting their own people, still holding hostages even dead ones for ages, etc.  Hamas is the cause, along with Iran and Qatar and Israel is the effect.

10 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Holding Israel to a standard not applied to other nation IS antisemitism, according to the working definition used by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance.  It notes that ".. criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic,"  but also gives as one of its examples of antisemitism:   "Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation."   https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

 

That's why comparisons to to the Allied bombing of Germany and Japan in WWII are relevant and on topic.  The U.S. and the U.K. killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese and German civilians with its strategic bombing campaigns, yet its forces were never accused of war crimes or collective punishment. What Israel did to Gaza is no different than what the Allies did to German and Japanese cities.

 

 

Hamas' leadership ordered the Oct. 7 attacks, which makes the entire group and all its members legitimate targets for retaliation, including members who didn't take active part in the Oct 7 incursion into Israel.  To prevent similar attacks in the future,  Israel has to destroy Hamas, which means killing as many members as it can and destroying as much of Hamas' tunnel infrastructure as possible.  

 

As has been stated many times now,  urban warfare and aerial bombardment in a densely populated area like Gaza, coupled with Hamas' overriding strategy of using human shields, resulted in high civilian deaths.  These deaths are not war crimes nor collective, but a tragic result of circumstances brought about by Hamas.

 

Whataboutary as a basis for the slur of anti-semitism.

 

There are many who regard the bombing, by all belligerent parties, of civilian populations during WW2 as a war crime, myself included.

 

 So no I don’t have a problem comparing Israel’s war crimes in Gaza, and elsewhere, to the war crimes committed during WW2.

 

What I do not accept is the war crimes of WW2 being any justification for the war crimes committed by Israel (or any other nation).

So go ahead and make that argument if you think it’s not completely flawed.

 

And so endeth the validity of your anti-Semitism slur.

 

 

The Middle East has long been a place where terrorism seems to thrive, and Israel has become the new terrorist nation in that region. They are a truly heinous regime, they do not practice democracy, and the leadership seems to thrive on the blood of women and children. 

 

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12 hours ago, dinsdale said:

70,000 which includes Hamas fighters and human shield deaths.

 

   It also incudes natural deaths , people who naturally died through old age and other medical conditions .

   It also includes the people Hamas killed as well 

1 hour ago, koolkarl said:

If you believe anything Hamas says, you likely believe in the tooth fairy too.  Hamas started this years ago by building tunnels, hide in schools and hospitals, wear civilian clothes, rule by terror even shooting their own people, still holding hostages even dead ones for ages, etc.  Hamas is the cause, along with Iran and Qatar and Israel is the effect.

A more valid case can be made that Israel is the cause, hamas the effect.