we foreigners are supposed to pay tax

but that whole website nightmare is in Thai only

have to use the laptop and my phone as a magnifier / translation tool to even fill in address, province, city... scrolling one by one

demanding a village nr while I live in a condo, just put 1 or the system is stuck and don't want to go next

create a strong password, but than it does not seem correct or cannot even copy paste it to keep in your password file

then login, put in my tax id and password and keep screaming not correct, changing the password to no avail, many times

to find out, it needs to remove the -

at this point, I am saying, F it, I pay nothing, come find me if you can

anybody else

yes, single person, no thai helping, but would you want to give up all your financial info to even your Gf ?

Just like with visas, they probably want to 'encourage' people to use the services of various middlemen agents instead. That way they can get a piece of that.

If you use a browser that has built in Translate function (Chrome, Brave etc), it becomes quite straightforward.

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After

34 minutes ago, Mutt Daeng said:

If you use a browser that has built in Translate function (Chrome, Brave etc), it becomes quite straightforward.

Before

After

thanks for the tip

Why not go to the tax office perhaps you would be able to get better help and/or a tax form in English.

2 minutes ago, parallelman said:

Why not go to the tax office perhaps you would be able to get better help and/or a tax form in English.

they did not speak a word when I went to apply for my tax id, google translate was my friend

I still managed to get it, as I prepared all my documents and some print out translation

I tried last week to navigate the site, and it's just too confusing. I tried to download the Form 90 to fill out manually and take to the Revenue Department, and it is not even available on the website. Taxes are due end of March, and still no Form 90 on the website. Go figure!

I advise people to NOT use the online declaration because it is not made for foreigners yet. An English PND90 you can easily find on the official RDT website.

The first declaration is not easy at all. So do it just the way I did it: you go to the tax office and ask them to complete it. If they don't do, you go the first time to an adviser. You take a copy of it and next time you can do it yourself. You only have to update the amounts.

By the way: doing a declaration doesn't mean pay tax. Ir will be dependent on the agreement between your country and Thailand.

I don't remember major issues when setting up an eFiling account, apart from the fact I was not allowed to have my VPN switched on.

It was very easy for me. The lady at the tax office did it for me when she filed my tax return in February.

You would think if they were going to send out the brute squad to snatch foreign retirees off their plastic chairs drinking beer in a banana patch in Isaan and lock ‘em up for not filing a form saying they owe no taxes, they would at least put the form in English.

They did it for me at local tax office and they were very helpful. I was not required to pay any tax anyway. All for free.

Similar to alanrchase and onemanshow I went to the tax office in Hua Hin bluport and the lady did it all for me.
Very helpful.
Now claiming back about 15,000 B tax on my thai stock dividends
Although i will have to warn people that one of the first questions was whether i have foreign sourced remittances into Thailand.
I do not have any remittances and she accepted my statement without asking for any evidence.
I did have my bank account records with me just in case.

3 minutes ago, jojothai said:

I do not have any remittances and she accepted my statement without asking for any evidence.

You would have had a very hard time to prove that something has not happened.

2 hours ago, easydoor said:

I advise people to NOT use the online declaration because it is not made for foreigners yet. An English PND90 you can easily find on the official RDT website.

The first declaration is not easy at all. So do it just the way I did it: you go to the tax office and ask them to complete it. If they don't do, you go the first time to an adviser. You take a copy of it and next time you can do it yourself. You only have to update the amounts.

By the way: doing a declaration doesn't mean pay tax. Ir will be dependent on the agreement between your country and Thailand.

11 minutes ago, Yumthai said:

You would have had very hard time to prove that something has not happened.

??
Foreign remittances would be to my bank. I have one bank account in Thailand.
My bank account statements will prove that I have no foreign remittances.
If you want to consider all the devious ways of avoiding remittance to your bank account then the skys the limit and people cannot prove anything.
But, are the Thai RD going to be asking for all your foreign credit/ debit card info and foreign bank account statements? They have no right to them (unless and if they declare worldwide income as taxable).

Its also possible to bring in up to 20,000 USD cash from abroad, if you want to, without declaring anything.
Then its very hard for the Thai RD to prove anything.

3 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

I tried last week to navigate the site, and it's just too confusing. I tried to download the Form 90 to fill out manually and take to the Revenue Department, and it is not even available on the website. Taxes are due end of March, and still no Form 90 on the website. Go figure!

The Thai-language version of the 2025 PND90 form is already available on the TRD website. And I'm confident that they have every intention of making the English-language version available at bang on the dot at 23:59:59 on 31 March and not a single second earlier! 🤑

3 hours ago, JackGats said:

I don't remember major issues when setting up an eFiling account, apart from the fact I was not allowed to have my VPN switched on.

Worked fine for me with my VPN (Surfshark) active. My VPN was also active when I filed a return - no problem for me.

20 minutes ago, jojothai said:

My bank account statements will prove that I have no foreign remittances.

That will only prove you have no bank transfer foreign remittances.

As you mentioned there are multiple other ways to remit value in Thailand, that you can't document it has not happened.

1 minute ago, Yumthai said:

That will only prove you have no bank transfer foreign remittances.

As you mentioned there are multiple other ways to remit value in Thailand, that you can't document it has not happened.

And they are nothing to do with me.

2 minutes ago, jojothai said:

And they are nothing to do with me.

Certainly as you say so, but your declaration is no proof.

My point is tax officer can't require something you are not able to provide evidence of.

Fairly easy for me. The password not allowed copy/paste thing is a protection for misuse. I write my password in my password file first – then it's visible for me at all time, using the requested capital letter, number and special sign – and then rewrite it in whatever system I'm creating an account with. I use Google-Chrome for eFiling and set first page to translate to English; all following pages then appeared in English language. Only thing not working as English is the roll down menues. Not that big a problem: I roll it down, take a screen print of the Thai text in the menu only and paste it in Google image-translate – vupti, I get the roll down menu in whatever language I've chose...

21 hours ago, OJAS said:

The Thai-language version of the 2025 PND90 form is already available on the TRD website. And I'm confident that they have every intention of making the English-language version available at bang on the dot at 23:59:59 on 31 March and not a single second earlier! 🤑

Their aim is to have one file through an agent so someone on the inside can get a kickback or go directly to the Revenue office and get grilled by a revenue officer who is dead set on getting tax out of some naive farang who knows nothing of the tax rules and regs. They love to get one of us face-to-face so they can take advantage of the vulnerable ones. They have honed their skills and can smell an easy target a mile away, just like they do at the Immigration offices.

3 hours ago, Jimbolkb said:

we foreigners are supposed to pay tax

but that whole website nightmare is in Thai only

have to use the laptop and my phone as a magnifier / translation tool to even fill in address, province, city... scrolling one by one

demanding a village nr while I live in a condo, just put 1 or the system is stuck and don't want to go next

create a strong password, but than it does not seem correct or cannot even copy paste it to keep in your password file

then login, put in my tax id and password and keep screaming not correct, changing the password to no avail, many times

to find out, it needs to remove theyes, single person, no thai helping, but would you want to give up all your financial info to even your Gf ?

3 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

Their aim is to have one file through an agent so someone on the inside can get a kickback or go directly to the Revenue office and get grilled by a revenue officer who is dead set on getting tax out of some naive farang who knows nothing of the tax rules and regs. They love to get one of us face-to-face so they can take advantage of the vulnerable ones. They have honed their skills and can smell an easy target a mile away, just like they do at the Immigration offices.

are you taking about your own experience ... or is this your own fantasy?

Plenty of dumb replies from people who have been conned into believing that you have to pay tax over here.

6 hours ago, jimn said:

Plenty of dumb replies from people who have been conned into believing that you have to pay tax over here.

interesting perspective. you call people who follow laws and regulations (as an expat in thailand) dump. your post actually reveals quite a bit about who you are ... doesn't it?

2 hours ago, motdaeng said:

interesting perspective. you call people who follow laws and regulations (as an expat in thailand) dump. your post actually reveals quite a bit about who you are ... doesn't it?

No more about you "dump" what are you on about?

9 hours ago, jimn said:

Plenty of dumb replies from people who have been conned into believing that you have to pay tax over here.

Rather that than being someone who has been conned into believing that their chances of getting that dreaded 3AM knock on their front door from a posse of TRD inspectors are zero, I think.

9 hours ago, jimn said:

Plenty of dumb replies from people who have been conned into believing that you have to pay tax over here.

There are quite a number of replies to threads like this where people have been far from dumb. They've registered for a TIN if they're tax resident and have assessable income in Thailand, completed the annual tax return as required by law and, because of various TEDAs and foreign tax credits, have found there's no tax to pay. They have peace of mind in knowing that, because they've covered their ar5e5 legally, they've drastically reduced their chances of a call from the tax man, years down the road.

I bought a few condos last year, with one foreigner as a tenant, that needed tm30 and tm47...

I wonder if I will get grilled

but for that reason, got my tax id, I will bring a print-out, just in case

I don't have to worry, it is reported, it is little, and I finally filed to get my 15% withholding tax that the banks take at the base of your interest. I even might get a big portion of that back.