2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So will many Americans, if it comes to that.

IMO you are hypnotized by technical prowess. The Germans had far superior weaponry to the Russians, they got swamped. In Vietnam, America got beaten by troops who dug tunnels, living on a handful of rice. How many Americans were killed or maimed in Afghanistan by IED's?

How is all the vaunted equipment helping a free flow of cargo in the Stait of Hormuz?

Technology has come a very long way since the Iraq war, let alone those others. The US destroyed a lot more soldiers in Vietnam than we lost, and would have more if they wanted to. Jungle warfare is tough, which is why they lost many troops there, as well as did the Vietnamese, who don't like to surrender, much like the Japanese, until they found out we weren't playing anymore. The Strait will be opened, as Iran and everyone else cannot lose much more money, and money is more important than lives to many.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Technology has come a very long way since the Iraq war, let alone those others. The US destroyed a lot more soldiers in Vietnam than we lost, and would have more if they wanted to. Jungle warfare is tough, which is why they lost many troops there, as well as did the Vietnamese, who don't like to surrender, much like the Japanese, until they found out we weren't playing anymore. The Strait will be opened, as Iran and everyone else cannot lose much more money, and money is more important than lives to many.

Us technology has come so far it is copying Shahed drones.

Its most advanced carrier is heading to Crete with a blocked toilet.

Questions:

When will the Strait of Hormuz be open?

Will it be kept open by military force, or a negotiated peace?

How much do you think it will cost daily to keep the Strait open by military means, assuming such means are successful?

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Us technology has come so far it is copying Shahed drones.

Questions:

When will the Strait of Hormuz be open?

Will it be kept open by military force, or a negotiated peace?

How much do you think it will cost daily to keep the Strait open by military means, assuming such means are successful?T

For the world's sake, as soon as possible. Best by negotiation but egos don't make that possible with these kinds of leaders. The war is already costing too much money, but losing oil to all these nations is costing more. The US can wipe Iran out but that doesn't go well with world peace, and they know it.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

For the world's sake, as soon as possible. Best by negotiation but egos don't make that possible with these kinds of leaders. The war is already costing too much money, but losing oil to all these nations is costing more. The US can wipe Iran out but that doesn't go well with world peace, and they know it.

Wipe Iran out? It's not that easy, ask the Russians. They've been trying to wipe out Ukraine for 4 years. Iran is 90 million people, some want freedom, some want sharia.

When is America going to learn to mind its own business?

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Wipe Iran out? It's not that easy, ask the Russians. They've been trying to wipe out Ukraine for 4 years.

Same reason Russia did not level Ukraine, it's really bad PR and then they'd need to rebuild all that krap with Halliburton.

Trump just told Iran their 2 main power plants will be knocked out in the next few days, it's not hard to cripple either of these countries.

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Wipe Iran out? It's not that easy, ask the Russians. They've been trying to wipe out Ukraine for 4 years. Iran is 90 million people, some want freedom, some want sharia.

When is America going to learn to mind its own business?

The world is America's business. America isn't like other countries, E..g Germany with mostly Germans, Italy with mostly Italians, France with mostly French, etc, but a country of all nations, which is why they get involved. America has weapons they can use if they wanted to decimate a country but it can't be done as most are civilians. It isn't Trump's job to install democracy or a leader but Iran's. That's just his ego talking.

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

It is doubtful the people you want to convince will read more than 5 lines. Maybe you should organize a group chat on whats app or line for the people who share similar views. That way you can all have a say in a supportive environment.

I'll say what the **** I like. Block me if you don't want to read my replies, or just scroll by.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

The world is America's business. America isn't like other countries, E..g Germany with mostly Germans, Italy with mostly Italians, France with mostly French, etc, but a country of all nations, which is why they get involved. America has weapons they can use if they wanted to decimate a country but it can't be done as most are civilians. It isn't Trump's job to install democracy or a leader but Iran's. That's just his ego talking.

From Trump's own words, it seems he wants America to go back to a nice Aryan nation.I don't know how he copes with so many Jews in New York.

America gets involved in all countries out of self-interest, don't even try to pretend it is from altruistic motives.

1 hour ago, Roadsternut said:

I'll say what the **** I like. Block me if you don't want to read my replies, or just scroll by.

Bless you. You took my suggestion to heart and wrote less than 5 lines. Write as much as you want, and frequently too. The mental health literature indicates that keeping a journal, blogging and similar is therapeutic, especially for marginalized people ignored by society.

Just now, Patong2021 said:

Bless you. You took my suggestion to heart and wrote a short statement. Write as much as you want, and frequently too. The mental health literature indicates that keeping a journal, blogging and similar is therapeutic, especially for marginalized people because it gives them an outlet to express themselves, when they would otherwise be ignored.

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

From Trump's own words, it seems he wants America to go back to a nice Aryan nation.I don't know how he copes with so many Jews in New York.

America gets involved in all countries out of self-interest, don't even try to pretend it is from altruistic motives.

There are many reasons, from self interests, trade between countries, and helping other countries rid themselves of terrorism and exploitation. I don't see Trump as a white supremacist, although he is a tad racist and a misogynist. I don't look at this war as a Trump thing but something that needed to happen in one way or another. They have some of their own reasons none of us know about, along with those we do,and guessing which is the most important is what people do all over, every day, since the first president we had.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There are many reasons, from self interests, trade between countries, and helping other countries rid themselves of terrorism and exploitation. I don't see Trump as a white supremacist, although he is a tad racist and a misogynist. I don't look at this war as a Trump thing but something that needed to happen in one way or another. They have some of their own reasons none of us know about, along with those we do,and guessing which is the most important is what people do all over, every day, since the first president we had.

BS. Any intervention by America comes down to what resources the country has, that America covets. Venezuala and Greenland ring any bells with you?

On 3/20/2026 at 4:34 PM, fredwiggy said:

If Iran was doing any real damage we would be hearing about it. If they had planes and boats in use, we would hear about it

While I don't take issue with the rest of your post (America's military might and ability), I doubt the above. We - the public - are really in the dark about what's going on in any of the countries there - particulalry Iran. If you think back to the two Gulf wars with Iraq, or any other conflict - Afghanistan, etc., we (the public) were much better informed by seeing the real deal and could decide on the propaganda separately. All we have now is the often grainy 'unclassified' shot from a drone destoying something or official (propaganda) statements from various sides. The news media may as well stay home and read propaganda statements and 'official' videos.

Just now, Lacessit said:

BS. Any intervention by America comes down to what resources the country has, that America covets. Venezuala and Greenland ring any bells with you?

Just now, Lacessit said:

America doesn't have, and never will have Greenland. They might set up a base there. Venezuela isn't going to lose oil to anyone, and the drug lord was a long time coming. People outside the US will never understand what America is all about, as the news is often biased. Going by what actually happens is better than assuming what might.

We didn't covet Japan, Iraq,, Germany or any others before. They had to be stopped. The same thing for England and Rome in earlier times for the same reasons. World peace does a lot more for America's interests than thinking we'll get any resources free, which we don't anyway. Trade between all nations is the endgame, and that means some leaders need to be removed, as their countries people don't want what they're living in. This doesn't mean changing cultures but having all cultures able to pray and speak without fear.You might not like the US policies, but removing terrorism is a world concern.

9 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

While I don't take issue with the rest of your post (America's military might and ability), I doubt the above. We - the public - are really in the dark about what's going on in any of the countries there - particulalry Iran. If you think back to the two Gulf wars with Iraq, or any other conflict - Afghanistan, etc., we (the public) were much better informed by seeing the real deal and could decide on the propaganda separately. All we have now is the often grainy 'unclassified' shot from a drone destoying something or official (propaganda) statements from various sides. The news media may as well stay home and read propaganda statements and 'official' videos.

I'm sure they aren't going to leak out everything, as too much gets to the media already. The less the better until it ends It would be a little crazy to say somethings happening and later be proven it didn't. I'm sure they don't want any more negativity than they already have with this conflict.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

America doesn't have, and never will have Greenland. They might set up a base there. Venezuela isn't going to lose oil to anyone, and the drug lord was a long time coming. People outside the US will never understand what America is all about, as the news is often biased. Going by what actually happens is better than assuming what might.

We didn't covet Japan, Iraq,, Germany or any others before. They had to be stopped. The same thing for England and Rome in earlier times for the same reasons. World peace does a lot more for America's interests than thinking we'll get any resources free, which we don't anyway. Trade between all nations is the endgame, and that means some leaders need to be removed, as their countries people don't want what they're living in. This doesn't mean changing cultures but having all cultures able to pray and speak without fear.You might not like the US policies, but removing terrorism is a world concern.

The USA didn't covet the resources of Iraq? Haliburton ring any bells with you?

You're coming the raw prawn.

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The USA didn't covet the resources of Iraq? Haliburton ring any bells with you?

You're coming the raw prawn.

Okay, so they did get extras from some wars, which is obvious, but it's only a guess which is the most important agenda.You'll hear many different opinions and many are wrong, and some are right. Peace is still in any country's best interest as it means more trade and money.

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

What's sad is that you've been proven wrong every single time, yet still come back like a moth to the flame, acting exactly the same way every time. Every reply an assumption and a cutdown, all the while being one of the most hated members here. A troll, with little knowledge but a huge ego, who can't reply with anything positive, obviously not a happy person, so he attacks others who have made him out the fool.

Look at your reply now. "Probably, Sit at Home, Watching countless videos, The rest of us."

This is not about anyone else besides you and the other few trolls, who obviously have nothing going on in their lives so feel the need to try and correct others in an online forum, obviously suffering from a low self esteem and NPD, which has you deflecting anything anyone points out about your behavior. Too stupid to realize he's been busted, had, pointed out and condemned.

Warned many times by the mods and removed, in this and other aliases, and still can't see the writing on the wall. You are simply a very disturbed little boy, who was never taught much from "parents", and who's only agenda is trying to appear superior, when all you are is a teenager in a man's body, trying to get out.

Now go take that girlfriend of yours out, at least until she also figures you out and looks for a normal man to spend time with. Or better yet, keep trolling and eventually you'll be banned permanently.

Was that you thinking outside the box or you just having another of your infamously insane rants?

16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Okay, so they did get extras from some wars, which is obvious, but it's only a guess which is the most important agenda. You'll hear many different opinions and many are wrong, and some are right. Peace is still in any country's best interest as it means more trade and money.

"Did get some extras"? The ignorance and the delusion is absolutely shocking.

On 3/21/2026 at 8:24 AM, Patong2021 said:

OK, so now you are getting your insight into current military strategies from fantasized Hollywood productions. Your comprehension is so brilliant that you need to share it with the military planners and commanders. Please give them a call and let them know you know it all because you watched some Hollywood movies.

Give me the number and I will consider it.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

You might not like the US policies, but removing terrorism is a world concern.

That may be correct but I and many others are concerned at the methods of removing terrorists and how it is being done!

54 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Okay, so they did get extras from some wars, which is obvious, but it's only a guess which is the most important agenda.You'll hear many different opinions and many are wrong, and some are right. Peace is still in any country's best interest as it means more trade and money.

You had better run that past me again, about how Trump's tariffs are stimulating trade.

5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

That may be correct but I and many others are concerned at the methods of removing terrorists and how it is being done!

True, I'm all for covert ops, paid intel, and drone strikes on proven intel. Problem is if a regime is terrorist based and has a military backing them, so what else can be done?

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You had better run that past me again, about how Trump's tariffs are stimulating trade.

I didn't mention his tariffs, which have been a problem. Trade is necessary between all countries, and his tactics aren't all helping. This topic is about Hormuz and Warthogs, which I approve of.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

Bless you. You took my suggestion to heart and wrote less than 5 lines. Write as much as you want, and frequently too. The mental health literature indicates that keeping a journal, blogging and similar is therapeutic, especially for marginalized people ignored by society.

FOYW.

Figure that out.

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I didn't mention his tariffs, which have been a problem. Trade is necessary between all countries, and his tactics aren't all helping. This topic is about Hormuz and Warthogs, which I approve of.

This topic can be about whatever anyone chooses to make it about.

2 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

This topic can be about whatever anyone chooses to make it about.

No, it's about Apaches and Warthogs blasting assets at Hormuz. Like most other topics, it gets sidetracked by well meaning people looking to expand on things, and it goes off course awhile. The OP makes a topic, and others follow.

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I didn't mention his tariffs, which have been a problem. Trade is necessary between all countries, and his tactics aren't all helping. This topic is about Hormuz and Warthogs, which I approve of.

Sanctions, quarantine, negotiations. IIRC correctly it was one of the characters in Asimov's Foundation series who said " Violence is the last resort of the incompetent".

BTW, any news on Trump's Nobel Peace Prize?

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Sanctions, quarantine, negotiations. IIRC correctly it was one of the characters in Asimov's Foundation series who said " Violence is the last resort of the incompetent".

BTW, any news on Trump's Nobel Peace Prize?

He might put an application in if Iran's people get democracy and a good new leader. The Strait opens and everyone benefits, and no one else that's innocent dies.

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, it's about Apaches and Warthogs blasting assets at Hormuz. Like most other topics, it gets sidetracked by well meaning people looking to expand on things, and it goes off course awhile. The OP makes a topic, and others follow.

Who resigned, and made you the arbiter of what we can post?