30 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

And the drivers eyes cannot be seen behind the untinted visors at night, either!

You decide.

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Uunbelievable. You've lost so many friends to motorcycle accidents that you can't remember how many? Sorry, don't believe it.

It's hard not to judge others by one's own standards. Believe what you want, and disbelieve what you want. It's a free country.

A lot of my friends are (and were) motorcycle riders so I probably have lost more friends that way than others. I'm also getting old I guess and my memory isn't what it was. And I have lost so many friends over the years I honestly can't remember. Some stand out because you remember the event. Some it seems that unless something triggers a memory of that person, I do not recall the event at all. Just writing this I am suddenly reminded of one friend I had completely forgotten about until now. He had stopped his bike at the roadside (possibly his bike ran out of gas?) and he was hit by a truck. That's gotta be 30 years ago. He was an interesting guy to talk to and very knowledgeable on motorcycles, but I'm still struggling to remember his name.

4 minutes ago, Homburg said:

A lot of my friends are (and were) motorcycle riders so I probably have lost more friends that way than others.

I've lost more friends to cancer than I have to motoring accidents of any description.

Rest in peace Mr. Perkins.

6 hours ago, Homburg said:

RIP Perkins.

So sad.

I have lost count of the number who have died in motorcycle accidents in and around Pattaya.

Utility poles cause a lot of fatalities.

6 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Nope.

Stating that the cause is speed is the most low information take possible. And it is part of the problem. Speed gets the blame and thats where the conversation stops until the next crash. And everyone keeps skipping the part where new riders fundamentally don't understand how and have never be educated on how a motorcycle steers.

Most involve tourists and expats ie NEW RIDERS. That don't understand how a motorcycle steers.

The second most low information take is that stricter law enforcement will solve something. A Russian woman was killed on a motorcycle riding up to the viewpoint in Pattaya. She was going below the speed limit. It was all on dash cam. The low speed did not prevent her from tracking into the oncoming lane and getting killed.

It is mostly speed, and not lack of skill, that kills. Most of the young Thai maniacs I see on motorcycles riding like crazy are very skilled at controlling their motorcycles. They just drive too fast, oblivious to the unexpected, with no mind to safety or maintenance. They are always in a hurry, and few wear helmets. The areas east of the Railway line have more open roads and less congestion, and it's easier to reach speeds of 100 km/h and higher, and there is zero traffic enforcement. Fleecing tourists in Pattaya is where most of the business is.

You say that most accidents involve tourists and expats? That's totally false, but it captures headlines IN Pattaya when tourists/expats have accidents, and it's the ones you hear about the most.

I am sorry for the old fellow but what idiot farang would ride a motorbike in such a busy place like the Pattaya area, let alone at night.

I can imagine it is safe to ride one in a small village to the local shops, but Pattaya, Phuket, I see the death-wish riders every day here in Phuket.

Why don't these farangs realise their life is worth more than the price of a car?

I can imagine the poorer Thais having to use one, but a farang, just plain silly.

16 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I saw another motorbike driving like crazy yesterday, weaving in an out of lanes, driving faster than all the cars.

Even if you drive safely on a motorbike, there is always a risk.

That was me. Thanks for your concern. I'm OK.

a lot of ignorant comments on here ,

, i have ridden big bikes , HD, Ducatis, Kawasakis in Thailand for 30 years and in cambodia, laos, malaysia even burma,, im 68 and still ride all the time,, You have to adjust to the local conditions , ride within your limits , wear a helmet and decent gear , watch the roads, beware of unskilled drivers and riders around you , and make sure your machine is in good condition,, I have never had a serious accident in Thailand , yes a few near misses ,,, but my skill and training helped me avoid problems ... i see a lot of very poor judgement out on the roads by Farang , and Thais on bikes , cars , pickups etc .....and also who is to say the deceased did not have a medical incident that caused the crash ????? or a dog , or a snake ,, or a hit and run ?????

my worst accident was actually in UK and was caused by a car hiiting me from behind in 1990 when i was riding a HD near brighton as the driver was reading a newspaper ...Now even Thais are not that stupid ... i spent 6 months in Hospital , the car driver spent 2 years in Jail

6 hours ago, JensenZ said:

Most of the young Thai maniacs I see on motorcycles riding like crazy are very skilled at controlling their motorcycles. They just drive too fast, oblivious to the unexpected, with no mind to safety or maintenance.

Very true. They would be great stuntmen, but they shouldn't be on public roads.

16 hours ago, mikebell said:

I've had 20+ years of it. I think it's about time the authorities should get a police force.

Are you seriously blaming grown adults crashing motorcycles on their own on lack of police ?

7 hours ago, JensenZ said:

It is mostly speed, and not lack of skill, that kills. Most of the young Thai maniacs I see on motorcycles riding like crazy are very skilled at controlling their motorcycles. They just drive too fast, oblivious to the unexpected, with no mind to safety or maintenance. They are always in a hurry, and few wear helmets. The areas east of the Railway line have more open roads and less congestion, and it's easier to reach speeds of 100 km/h and higher, and there is zero traffic enforcement. Fleecing tourists in Pattaya is where most of the business is.

You say that most accidents involve tourists and expats? That's totally false, but it captures headlines IN Pattaya when tourists/expats have accidents, and it's the ones you hear about the most.

This is totally untrue. The speed runners and lane splitters are not the ones getting in accidents like this.

Newer riders and tourists literally don't know how to steer. As shown here. They are almost always failing to track the bike around curves and going off the road into stationary objects.

This is what is happening

19 hours ago, shackleton said:

Most accidents are caused by people driving motor bikes to fast plus some not wearing crash helmets in Thailand

Most involving tourists or ex-pats who don't worry about the laws or fines

They probably would not do the same in their home countries

Stricter law enforcement needed

Not wearing a helmet does not cause accidents.... locals worry nothing about laws or fines and little of their own survival. Enforcement has been minimal for some years now in my area.

7 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Are you seriously blaming grown adults crashing motorcycles on their own on lack of police ?

Yes. Lack of policing. By permitting riding with no helmets; red-light running; speeding; this laissez-faire approach merely cements the above offences. Seat belts in cars save lives but it took a coordinated campaign by UK police to enforce it before it became 'normal behaviour.

20 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

According to the report they did attend the scene.

I mean a police force that is active on the roads BEFORE accidents; eradicating offences that may lead to later fatalities.

22 hours ago, IsaanT said:

I agree. Ask any motorcyclist you know how a motorcycle actually turns and 99% of them will get it wrong.

To initiate a left turn you initially move the handlebars slightly RIGHT before then turning left. This is how the lean is created. Most riders do this subconsciously. If you want to initiate a RAPID lean into a left turn, move the handlebars a small amount QUICKLY to the right. This is counter-steering and is what motorcycle racers do to drop into a turn so rapidly. Only riders that consciously understand this can do it. If you don't understand this, stick to cars and taxis.

Inexperienced riders entering bends too fast are at grave risk of ending up where they are looking. If they see a pole on the far side of the road and fix their gaze on it, that's where the bike is going to go, hence some of these unfortunate outcomes. Answer? Look where you want to go. Tip: it works well in a car, too (watch the eyes of F1 drivers through their visors).

These are the basics of safe motorcycling but some never live long enough to learn.

Watch this video to see how it's done properly: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9zSzmkYp0HU

By the time I did all that my motor bike registration would have expired.

What else do you "consciously understand"?

I've been riding, including 750's for 52+ years.

You are over-thinking this.

Just ride the bike & relax.🙃🙃

23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Tip: F1 drivers eyes cannot be seen through their visors.

Right, like clear visors don’t exist

22 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Uunbelievable. You've lost so many friends to motorcycle accidents that you can't remember how many? Sorry, don't believe it.

Honestly, nobody cares what you believe, or don’t believe. Your inane posts exist simply to annoy, which is fairly pathetic. No offense, of course.

On 4/4/2026 at 11:57 AM, VocalNeal said:

Says he died of a broken neck. No helmet would have saved him from that.

Given the front tire is off of the rim I would say the front tire gave out before he hit the pole. Unlucky another 12 inches and he would have been fine.

OR at 65 he died and then hit the pole.

He was wearing a helmet, and was an experienced rider living here 24 years i understand.

19 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I am sorry for the old fellow but what idiot farang would ride a motorbike in such a busy place like the Pattaya area, let alone at night.

I can imagine it is safe to ride one in a small village to the local shops, but Pattaya, Phuket, I see the death-wish riders every day here in Phuket.

Why don't these farangs realise their life is worth more than the price of a car?

I can imagine the poorer Thais having to use one, but a farang, just plain silly.

The crash was outside of the city i understand and he was riding home. He has been riding and arrang ride in Thailand for a long time.

29 minutes ago, chrissables said:

The crash was outside of the city i understand and he was riding home. He has been riding and arrang ride in Thailand for a long time.

I was once part of his rides up country, seemed like a decent rider and a good guy.

Rest in peace

All-in-all

not a bad way to go.

On 4/4/2026 at 8:33 AM, Back Stage said:

Easily could have happened. 65 years old. Driving at night. Your night vision isn't the same when you get older. Oncoming headlights, easily confused and runs off the road. Especially if the road is rough or he was trying to avoid a pothole or other obstacle.

Probably just pissed up.

better than dying of cancer, stroke or dementia.?

On 4/4/2026 at 8:30 AM, thailand49 said:

Around the Lake, it is an autobaun at times, speed limits are marked improperly for looks lots of paint on the floor that is Thailand control measures. Once it gets start it is a mine field, drivers tailgating although you are going a safe speed. Motorbikes passing undertaking/overtaking when they aren't suppose to be doing then you got the expats who live out there with their own drinking setup, no helmet why? well I just live down the road.

I look at the picture, bike looks modified R.I.P. another bits the dust?

Putting a loud muffler on a small powered bike does not make it go faster, it's more of a mentality sign and there is plenty of of them on the roads, without helmets as well

2 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Putting a loud muffler on a small powered bike does not make it go faster, it's more of a mentality sign and there is plenty of of them on the roads, without helmets as well

True, very true, it is in fact all mental, we have been through it all growing up regardless of location. Here it isn't goint to take much to put oneself in a position to kill themselves.

5 hours ago, PopGun said:

Utility poles cause a lot of fatalities.

On 4/5/2026 at 4:41 PM, chrissables said:

The crash was outside of the city i understand and he was riding home. He has been riding and arrang ride in Thailand for a long time.

That is even sillier, the more a person rides a bike the more change of an accident, why do these farangs not realise the cost of a car is nothing compared to the pain of significant injury or death?

18 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

That is even sillier,

What is even sillier is a non rider trying to lecture others on the negative aspects of motorcycling when there are documented benefits.

Motor cycling can provide profound mental health benefits through freedom, mindfulness, community connection, physical activity, adventure, stress relief, better sleep...

Lots of links to that kind of stuff. Have a look...

Sure it has its dangers but so does crossing the road.

You will never see a motorcycle parked outside a psychiatrist's office unless it belongs to the psychiatrist.

Want to know what it is like to ride a motorcycle? Ask any dog who rides in a car with his/her head out of the window.

22 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Putting a loud muffler on a small powered bike does not make it go faster, it's more of a mentality sign and there is plenty of of them on the roads, without helmets as well

The little toy car that left my neighbours place yesterday, probably a Bolt, sounded like a Ferrari!

On 4/4/2026 at 6:14 AM, save the frogs said:

I saw another motorbike driving like crazy yesterday, weaving in an out of lanes, driving faster than all the cars.

Even if you drive safely on a motorbike, there is always a risk.

I had to drive through Bangkok yesterday and the motorcycles weaving between vehicles at a much greater speed and very close was amazing