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Beat Iran without boots on the ground: America's smarter war plan

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Beat Iran without Boots on the ground: America’s smarter war plan

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Forget invasion — this is a battle of patience, pressure and power

Iran isn’t trying to defeat the United States outright — it’s trying to wear it down.

For decades, Tehran has played the long game: proxy attacks, oil shocks, economic disruption — all designed to drain American resolve until Washington walks away. It’s a strategy built on one core belief: the US cannot sustain a long war of attrition.

That belief is only true if America fights on Iran’s terms.

No invasion needed — and that’s the point

Calls for a ground war miss the reality. A full-scale invasion would be costly, unpopular, and — crucially — would hand the regime exactly what it wants: a unifying foreign enemy.

Instead, the smarter path is clear — outlast, outmanoeuvre, and undermine.

The real battlefield isn’t just military. It’s internal.

The regime’s greatest weakness? Its own people

Iran’s leadership is deeply entrenched, backed by the powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and a brutal repression machine.

But beneath that surface lies a fragile state.

Millions of Iranians — across ethnic groups and social classes — have repeatedly risen up against the regime. Protests have swept the country, exposing deep dissatisfaction with clerical rule, economic hardship, and corruption.

This is where the fight can be won.

Not by imposing change from outside — but by empowering it from within.

Turn pressure into strategy

A winning approach would combine relentless external pressure with internal empowerment:

  • Expand sanctions to choke regime finances

  • Disrupt oil exports, especially to China

  • Guarantee security in the Strait of Hormuz

  • Support secure communications for Iranian citizens

  • Back opposition networks with funding and technology

This is not nation-building. It’s strategic alignment with a population already pushing for change.

Time is the real weapon — for both sides

Tehran believes time is on its side — that it can endure longer than Washington’s political will.

But that cuts both ways.

A disciplined US strategy, sustained over years, could steadily tighten the pressure — economically, politically and socially — until the regime faces a choice: reform, retreat, or fracture.

Negotiations only work from strength

Iran doesn’t respond to goodwill. It responds to pressure.

Talks will only succeed when the regime believes its survival is at stake. That means clear choices: curb nuclear ambitions, end proxy warfare — or face escalating isolation.

Anything less simply resets the cycle.

A war already decades in the making

This isn’t a new conflict. It’s a slow-burning confrontation stretching back nearly half a century.

And the stakes are rising — with Iran’s nuclear ambitions, missile expansion and regional proxies pushing the risk of a far more dangerous showdown.

Win by outlasting, not invading

The lesson is simple: America doesn’t need boots on the ground to win.

It needs patience. Pressure. And a strategy that turns Iran’s greatest vulnerability — its own people — into its greatest weakness.

Because in the end, the force the regime fears most isn’t foreign armies.

It’s its own citizens.

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  • spidermike007
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    We don't have to play a George Bush Jr. "you're either with us or you're against us" game, that didn't work then and it doesn't work now. You can't seriously accuse people who are critical of this w

  • VocalNeal
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    America's smarter war plan ? Isn't this one of the oxymoron things ?

  • unblocktheplanet
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    Yanqui go home! You've done too much damage for no reason already. Hope Bibi is happy to pwn America.

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Yanqui go home! You've done too much damage for no reason already. Hope Bibi is happy to pwn America.

Just bomb Kharg island and the evil regime will fold as no money to pay the gestapo

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Too slow for Americans.

They want it all, they want it now...........like Freddie Mercury did.

Freddie was from a family of Zoroastrians......a religion that originated in Iran.

5 hours ago, Social Media said:
  1. Expand sanctions to choke regime finances

  2. Disrupt oil exports, especially to China

  3. Guarantee security in the Strait of Hormuz

  4. Support secure communications for Iranian citizens

  5. Back opposition networks with funding and technology

Option 2 is viable but geopolitical dangerous. The other suggestions the US is incapable of.

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America's smarter war plan ?

Isn't this one of the oxymoron things ?

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None of this is realistic, had there been some sincere and intelligent dialogue with some of the opposition groups, and had the US been smart enough to avoid bombing civilian targets and Iranian infrastructure, this might have been possible.

But they have created so much hatred, and so much ill will with their aggression, and fed right into the hands of the enemy. And by teaming up with genocidal Israel, they made a huge miscalculation. Now the Iranians are fighting not one despised enemy but two. I would not doubt if hundreds of thousands of Iranians have volunteered to fight, and we could be looking at an army of a million men.

The degree to which Trump and his idiots have miscalculated is nothing short of astonishing. The mistakes that have been made in this war are truly embarrassing, especially for the largest and most expensive military on the planet. This truly proves biggest is not always the best.

Trump is simply too old, too senile, too ignorant, too moronic, and the level of insanity that he possesses is not helping anything. Disaster Don is not up for this task, it's obvious that this thing is wearing him out, he is fading, and I am expecting his resignation next year after he gets his butt whomped in the midterms. See ya Don. You won't be missed, and billions of people will be dancing in the street for weeks.

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21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

None of this is realistic, had there been some sincere and intelligent dialogue with some of the opposition groups, and had the US been smart enough to avoid bombing civilian targets and Iranian infrastructure, this might have been possible.

But they have created so much hatred, and so much ill will with their aggression, and fed right into the hands of the enemy. And by teaming up with genocidal Israel, they made a huge miscalculation. Now the Iranians are fighting not one despised enemy but two. I would not doubt if hundreds of thousands of Iranians have volunteered to fight, and we could be looking at an army of a million men.

The degree to which Trump and his idiots have miscalculated is nothing short of astonishing. The mistakes that have been made in this war are truly embarrassing, especially for the largest and most expensive military on the planet. This truly proves biggest is not always the best.

Trump is simply too old, too senile, too ignorant, too moronic, and the level of insanity that he possesses is not helping anything. Disaster Don is not up for this task, it's obvious that this thing is wearing him out, he is fading, and I am expecting his resignation next year after he gets his butt whomped in the midterms. See ya Don. You won't be missed, and billions of people will be dancing in the street for weeks.

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How many civilian targets have they hit? How many military targets have they hit? Bad intel accounted for the school disaster, but it wasn't intentional. The US is a lot smarter and capable than you'll ever imagine, seeing their success in taking out almost a whole military in a few days, and only with a few lost planes. You also don't realize how many Iranians are against the regime and are on the US side. This isn't a clean war, whatever that might be, but many are underestimating what the US can do.

I don't see Iran getting any edge here, so feeding into their hands doesn't quite fit. Mistakes aren't taking out over a hundred ships to none, the whole Air Force compared to a few planes with no casualties, and thousands dead compared to 15.

No matter how wrong this conflict might be, and it definitely is costing more than just lives and money, it's all one sided as far as the military is concerned. What the endgame is no one yet knows, but hopefully Iran's citizens can have a better leader and peace without the reprisals that have been occurring for decades, which some seem to forget happened. It also seems some actually want the US to lose, which would open a huge can of worms that will affect many countries.

There aren't any excuses for the mistakes that have been made in any wars or conflicts, including this one, but who's side are you on? There are only two I can think of. Whoever backs Iran's terror regime and the rest of the free world that doesn't want terrorism.

Iran's citizens for the most don't want the regime the way it was. That plan is a good one if it's implemented. The only things that aren't good are those that affect other countries and their oil. That's how you piss other countries off. Remember this isn't all on Trump's shoulders as there are others involved, even if he is a moron.

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17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

How many civilian targets have they hit? How many military targets have they hit? Bad intel accounted for the school disaster, but it wasn't intentional. The US is a lot smarter and capable than you'll ever imagine, seeing their success in taking out almost a whole military in a few days, and only with a few lost planes. You also don't realize how many Iranians are against the regime and are on the US side. This isn't a clean war, whatever that might be, but many are underestimating what the US can do.

I don't see Iran getting any edge here, so feeding into their hands doesn't quite fit. Mistakes aren't taking out over a hundred ships to none, the whole Air Force compared to a few planes with no casualties, and thousands dead compared to 15.

No matter how wrong this conflict might be, and it definitely is costing more than just lives and money, it's all one sided as far as the military is concerned. What the endgame is no one yet knows, but hopefully Iran's citizens can have a better leader and peace without the reprisals that have been occurring for decades, which some seem to forget happened. It also seems some actually want the US to lose, which would open a huge can of worms that will affect many countries.

There aren't any excuses for the mistakes that have been made in any wars or conflicts, including this one, but who's side are you on? There are only two I can think of. Whoever backs Iran's terror regime and the rest of the free world that doesn't want terrorism.

Iran's citizens for the most don't want the regime the way it was. That plan is a good one if it's implemented. The only things that aren't good are those that affect other countries and their oil. That's how you piss other countries off. Remember this isn't all on Trump's shoulders as there are others involved, even if he is a moron.

We don't have to play a George Bush Jr. "you're either with us or you're against us" game, that didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

You can't seriously accuse people who are critical of this war and critical of the way that it's being waged, as being pro hard line Iranian. There were better ways to do it, there was a better time to do it, and this could have been done in a far more clever fashion to encourage the Iranian people to push for regime change. The way they went about it, makes it appear to me that nothing of any significance is going to change in Iran.

Dumb and dumber.

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1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

We don't have to play a George Bush Jr. "you're either with us or you're against us" game, that didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

You can't seriously accuse people who are critical of this war and critical of the way that it's being waged, as being pro hard line Iranian. There were better ways to do it, there was a better time to do it, and this could have been done in a far more clever fashion to encourage the Iranian people to push for regime change. The way they went about it, makes it appear to me that nothing of any significance is going to change in Iran.

Dumb and dumber.

Trump thought Khomeini was nearing nuclear weapon capability. What do you do with that information, which might have come from intel like the one that put all those leaders in one place, seeing it would mean a terrorist thinking leader had his finger on the trigger of a weapon that can kill thousands? I'm also critical of any wars, as people who are innocent die. Iran's people have been trying to get a regime change for years and thousands have already died because of the protesting. When do you stop protesting and let them stay the same ways? Some leaders and followers have to be controlled for the good of all. Especially when they think like they did.

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5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Trump thought Khomeini was nearing nuclear weapon capability. What do you do with that information, which might have come from intel like the one that put all those leaders in one place, seeing it would mean a terrorist thinking leader had his finger on the trigger of a weapon that can kill thousands? I'm also critical of any wars, as people who are innocent die. Iran's people have been trying to get a regime change for years and thousands have already died because of the protesting. When do you stop protesting and let them stay the same ways? Some leaders and followers have to be controlled for the good of all. Especially when they think like they did.

On the one hand you say that you don't support War but on the other hand you seem to be advocating that America continue to be the world's policeman. Where does this policy end? Should we try to create regime change in Russia? China? North Korea? Why stop there, why not South Sudan?

I completely support the Iranian people and I utterly despise the regime and the hard line super freaks. What does that mean going to war with Iran was justified? There are at least a dozen governments around the world that are mistreating their people, shall we go to war with all of them?

Who are we anyway to be dictating regime change? Especially with this president who does not have one nanogram of moral authority.

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2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

On the one hand you say that you don't support War but on the other hand you seem to be advocating that America continue to be the world's policeman. Where does this policy end? Should we try to create regime change in Russia? China? North Korea? Why stop there, why not South Sudan?

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The US acts as the world's police force because the US is all countries in one place, and it's in their best interest to help anyone that needs it, as it helps trade and relations. Countries that don't get along with the US suffer in trade, and the same goes for the US. It's not the US's business to change the regime but to give the citizens the chance to do that themselves.

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13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Trump thought Khomeini was nearing nuclear weapon capability. What do you do with that information, which might have come from intel like the one that put all those leaders in one place, seeing it would mean a terrorist thinking leader had his finger on the trigger of a weapon that can kill thousands? I'm also critical of any wars, as people who are innocent die. Iran's people have been trying to get a regime change for years and thousands have already died because of the protesting. When do you stop protesting and let them stay the same ways? Some leaders and followers have to be controlled for the good of all. Especially when they think like they did.

Ayatollah Khomeini died in 1989. If you meant Khamenei, then if Trump had intel about him getting near to having a nuclear weapon, it didn't come from US intelligence sources. They had concluded that the Iranian regime was not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon and had not restarted their uranium enrichment programme.

America's spies say Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon. Trump dismisses that assessment

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/americas-spies-say-iran-wasnt-building-a-nuclear-weapon-trump-dismisses-that-assessment

US intel chief Gabbard says Iran was not rebuilding enrichment prior to war

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18/us-intel-chief-gabbard-says-iran-was-not-rebuilding-enrichment-prior-to-war

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23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Trump thought Khomeini was nearing nuclear weapon capability.

Then he should have listened to the intel, that clearly stated Iran hadn't significantly restarted it's nuclear program after last years obliteration.

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16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The US acts as the world's police force because the US is all countries in one place, and it's in their best interest to help anyone that needs it,

Arrogance at its worst.

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54 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Arrogance at its worst.

54 minutes ago, stevenl said:

No, just the way it's been happening for awhile now.

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Ayatollah Khomeini died in 1989. If you meant Khamenei, then if Trump had intel about him getting near to having a nuclear weapon, it didn't come from US intelligence sources. They had concluded that the Iranian regime was not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon and had not restarted their uranium enrichment programme.

America's spies say Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon. Trump dismisses that assessment

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/americas-spies-say-iran-wasnt-building-a-nuclear-weapon-trump-dismisses-that-assessment

US intel chief Gabbard says Iran was not rebuilding enrichment prior to war

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18/us-intel-chief-gabbard-says-iran-was-not-rebuilding-enrichment-prior-to-war

Lot of sources that say a lot of different things, yet they went along with his decision and still do. Guess we'll find out the truth eventually.

4 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Just bomb Kharg island and the evil regime will fold as no money to pay the gestapo

Once the new pipelines are in place that would be a good idea.

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16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, just the way it's been happening for awhile now.

Happening for a while doesn't exclude arrogance. A very good argument could be made that it proofs arrogance.

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9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Lot of sources that say a lot of different things, yet they went along with his decision and still do. Guess we'll find out the truth eventually.

Nonsense, ask Tulsi. I don't trust her agency, but when they're openly contradicting the president, it seems very likely they're telling the truth. The truth is out there already.

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Vietnam is still in the bones of Americans. Nobody tolerating a lenghty military engagement. Not even the MAGA crowd.

Not to worry. One way or the other, Donald will soon declare "victory" and pull out. Leaving it up to the rest of the world to clear the strait.

After bombing pearl harbour, the Japonese code word for success was TORA TORA TORA.

After pulling out, the US code word for success will be TACO TACO TACO.

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5 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Just bomb Kharg island and the evil regime will fold as no money to pay the gestapo

Why do you think the Iranian government won't be able to print Rials? And why do you think money is the main driver for a member of the IRGC? They signed up just for the bonus. How do you think Germany paid the actual Gestapo during WW2? And post WW1, it took the Weimer aboit 15 years to collapse because of hyper inflation, so I think your genius master plan of just <deleted>in' bombing them will be a slo mo way to end the regime, likely deliberately killing millions of brown babies.

Yes, you have seen the headlines that Kharg Island is the conduit for 90-95% of Iran's oil exports. Before this war, Iran exported $53 billion. which is 11% of GDP. So, boo hoo, GDP is down 10%. Which is bad. This puts it on par with the decline in UK GDP during lockdown (9.9%).

Cutting off Iranian oil exports, including their second oil terminal that you have conveniently forgotten will also reduce global oil supply. You might be one of those dolts who believe that somehow the US is paying a different price for oil than the rest of the world, but unless America turns communist, the oil companies are free to sell oil to whoever wants to pay the most, not the least.

10% down on GDP is a serious malaise for the Iranian economy, but not terminal. Certainly its no where near enough for the IRGC to not receive any wages.

5 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

Certainly its no where near enough for the IRGC to not receive any wages.

Do you think that they care about that?

This might be worst than Vietnam.

Hollywood... pull your socks up. Need better stuff than Rambo .

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Mostly overlooked: The US is fighting a "high cost war". While the Iran is fighting a "low cost war".

"Follow the money".

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2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Trump thought Khomeini was nearing nuclear weapon capability. What do you do with that information, which might have come from intel like the one that put all those leaders in one place, seeing it would mean a terrorist thinking leader had his finger on the trigger of a weapon that can kill thousands? I'm also critical of any wars, as people who are innocent die. Iran's people have been trying to get a regime change for years and thousands have already died because of the protesting. When do you stop protesting and let them stay the same ways? Some leaders and followers have to be controlled for the good of all. Especially when they think like they did.

Where were you on the stated reasons for the Iraq War, and the 40 minutes from being nuked/bioattacked by Iraq. Did you get yourself a gasmask and atropine shots just in case? And if you didn't , why not? Jesus wil take care of you I suppose.

Trumps stated reason is just bull faeces. He's been a con man all his adult life and knows how to lie. Or would you rather believe him than George W Bush?

What do you do with that information, if it actually existed? You share all the information you have with your closest allies, the same allies who backed you in 2001, and in 2003, incliding those allies you had been praising in January 2026 as "among the greatest warriors of all. We love you all and always will" . You use 5 Eyes to share data, and for them to share their data. You explain why your data conflicts with theirs (besides GCHQ and Akritori, the UK maintains an unmatched listening post in Oman, something the Americans don't have in the region). You do your best to cross reference each others sources, to make sure you haven't been mislead by a bunch of lying bastards who don't have the best wishes for the USA. You do your best (even if it ultimately fails) to bring the world to your side through the United Nations. It worked for you in 2003. You come up with a better plan that the piss poor <deleted> half arsed effort they have now, where they forgot to deploy any troops in time, where they didn't realise Iran would shoot back, where they scrapped all their minesweepers just before Iran closed the straits.

19 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Do you think that they care about that?

Nope. Another poster who doesn't bother to <deleted> read replies.

14 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

Nope. Another poster who doesn't bother to <deleted> read replies.

Are you capable of replying without pointless insults?

27 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Are you capable of replying without pointless insults?

Try a reply with a point.

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

On the one hand you say that you don't support War but on the other hand you seem to be advocating that America continue to be the world's policeman. Where does this policy end? Should we try to create regime change in Russia? China? North Korea? Why stop there, why not South Sudan?

I completely support the Iranian people and I utterly despise the regime and the hard line super freaks. What does that mean going to war with Iran was justified? There are at least a dozen governments around the world that are mistreating their people, shall we go to war with all of them?

Who are we anyway to be dictating regime change? Especially with this president who does not have one nanogram of moral authority.

While pegged as taking the moral high ground, this conflict has very little to do with the Iranian people in reality (IMO). They are collateral in a far larger geopolitical game - though there was a point where anti-regime sentiment appeared strong and widespread enough that meaningful internal change seemed possible.

That moment hasn’t materialised. The regime has shown it will retain control at any cost, and external pressure risks hardening internal resistance rather than breaking it.

This war is about preventing Iran from gaining the ability to hold its region militarily - and the wider world economically - hostage to an uncompromising, hard-line ideology.

Before 1979, Iran and Israel were aligned. That ended with the Iranian Revolution, when Ruhollah Khomeini turned hostility into state doctrine. From that moment, this was no longer politics - it became ideology.

Since then, Iran systematically built influence through proxy warfare - not stability, not cooperation, but deliberate destabilisation. Its network spans Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Houthis, Iraqi militias like Kata’ib Hezbollah and Harakat al-Nujaba, alongside wider Shi’a militia networks across Syria and Iraq. This is not fragmented - it is coordinated influence, built over decades .

I'd say, that at its core this conflict is simply about power consolidation and the western attempt to stem Iran's edging towards nuclear capability and its ability to threatening global shipping through the Strait of Hormuz - a chokepoint for crude oil, LNG, LPG, refined fuels (diesel, petrol, jet fuel), petrochemicals, fertilisers (urea, ammonia), aluminium, bauxite, steel inputs (iron ore derivatives), helium, sulphur, plastics feedstocks (ethylene, propylene), methanol, grain flows, edible oils, industrial chemicals, construction materials, and a big range of critical energy and manufacturing inputs.

Iran was close to developing the capactity to disrupt that long term - and then we're not dealing with temporary price spikes - we're are looking at sustained global economic disruption - a complete global shift.

Given many comments in this thread and in the wider media there are those who still insist this can all be talked away. That this is avoidable if we just “de-escalate”. That is not insight - it is denial. A refusal to confront long-term risk in favour of short-term comfort. Because the reality is simple: do nothing now, and the cost compounds.

Ten years from now, the same voices would be asking why no one acted when the trajectory was obvious. It is the easiest position in the world - until consequences arrive.

Then there’s the nuclear reality. A nuclear Iran does not exist in isolation - it triggers proliferation. Saudi Arabia under Mohammed bin Salman will not sit idle. Nor will Turkey. Nor others across the Gulf. Nuclear capability spreads - in the most unstable region on earth.

That is not a theory thats the widely accepted trajectory should Iran become nuclear capable - and make no mistake, Iran was close - the claims that its nuclear capacity were obliterated were overstated and typical Trump bravado - the knowledge remains, the raw materials remain, infactructure can be re-built quickly.

Back to the people of Iran. Many of them have made it clear they want something different. But they are governed by a system that prioritises ideology over prosperity, confrontation over stability and they are fearful of their own guardians.

So I don't think this is about morality - It is about recognising risk early - or risk paying for it later and the potential consequences later seems to be something many people miss when concentrating on debating the 'now'...

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