18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I did not say it would necessarily, we can only hope, yes?

Why would you hope for those borders to be opened and the country to be flooded?

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

Why would you hope for those borders to be opened and the country to be flooded?

They need more people to vote left

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I suppose this means Hungarians freely chose to be replaced by military age male muslim freeloaders, an end to safety in public places, an end to any freedom.of expression & speech, drugs for sale on every street corner, and more control by Brussels. Nice 1 Hungarians😅

You do understand that Magyar is a former member of Orban's party, and is a right-wing politician, don't you?

1 hour ago, RayC said:

Could you explain why you think that Tisza's policies - which ones specifically - will lead to these outcomes?

You must be kidding! 😄

6 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

with the new lefty fascists in power now!

Classic oxymoron. Funny, made me laugh.

16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

They need more people to vote left

Given your anti-left stance, I'm surprised that you would hope for an influx of left-leaning immigrants. In any event, I don't think that your hopes would be realised - certainly not in the short term - as Immigrants would not be able to vote in Hungarian elections unless they became citizens.

Any other reasons why you hope for an opening of borders and influx of immigrants into Hungary?

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

Given your anti-left stance, I'm surprised that you would hope for an influx of left-leaning immigrants. In any event, I don't think that your hopes would be realised - certainly not in the short term - as Immigrants would not be able to vote in Hungarian elections unless they became citizens.

They all become citizens at some point, and there's always mail in voting...

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

Any other reasons why you hope for an opening of borders and influx of immigrants into Hungary?

People should get what they vote for, yes?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

They all become citizens at some point, and there's always mail in voting...

People should get what they vote for, yes?

So what did the opposition party vote for? Do you have any notion about how heterodox the opposition is?

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So what did the opposition party vote for?

Hope and change!

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Do you have any notion about how heterodox the opposition is?

Tell me

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

They all become citizens at some point, and there's always mail in voting...

People should get what they vote for, yes?

Indeed. And the Hungarians voted to oust the Putin loving and MAGA supported Orban, and boy, did they turn up in droves.

So I can understand why this is hurting your feelings and you again have to resort to immature pearl clutching drama queen diversions.

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

They all become citizens at some point, and there's always mail in voting...

All immigrants become residents? Could you post a link verifying that assertion please?

What is relevance of 'mail-in' voting? Only those eligible to vote i.e. in this case Hungarian citizens could do so. What is your point?

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

People should get what they vote for, yes?

Indeed they should. Could you point out the section in Tisza's manifesto where it suggests that there will be open borders and an influx of immigrants?

7 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Hungary ousts Orbán as Magyar's party wins supermajority in parliament

Hungarian voters on Sunday ousted long-serving Prime Minister Viktor Orbán after 16 years in power, rejecting the authoritarian policies and global far-right movement that he embodied in favour of a pro-European challenger in a bombshell election result with global repercussions.

It was a stunning blow for Orbán – a close ally of both US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin – who quickly conceded defeat after what he called a "painful" election result. US Vice President JD Vance had made a visit to Hungary just days earlier, meant to help push Orbán over the finish line.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20260412-hungary-ousts-orb%C3%A1n-after-16-years-as-pro-eu-challenger-wins-shock-election

A supermajority means that the new Government can dismantle the corrupt and authoritarian system put in place by Orban & Co. I guess the attraction of Orban's system, widespread self dealing by government officials and suppression of opposition media outweighed the fact that the corrupt economic system resulted in spectacularly poor economic performance compared to its neighbors.

FAO Donald J Trump, now THAT'S a landslide.

5 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Hungarian elections have nothing to do with America.

Didn't stop your Veep dropping by though.

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

All immigrants become residents? Could you post a link verifying that assertion please?

If they reside there, they are residents.

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

What is relevance of 'mail-in' voting? Only those eligible to vote i.e. in this case Hungarian citizens could do so. What is your point?

Mail in voting makes fraud easier

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

Indeed they should. Could you point out the section in Tisza's manifesto where it suggests that there will be open borders and an influx of immigrants?

Sure, soon as you point out when in Biden's manifesto it said he would open the border and flood the county with illegal aliens.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If they reside there, they are residents.

My bad. Typo. I meant citizens.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Mail in voting makes fraud easier

Perhaps but that applies anywhere and is not specific to Hungarian elections.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Sure, soon as you point out when in Biden's manifesto it said he would open the border and flood the county with illegal aliens.

Whatabouery. Deflection. Call it what you will. I have made no comment about Biden's immigration policies and will not start now. Moreover, any such discussion is totally irrelevant to this Hungarian election. Let's stick to the topic.

So to summarise; Your position is that as a result of Magyar's victory you hope - but do not necessarily expect - Hungary to open its borders and for there to be an influx of immigrants. This would be justified because that is what the Hungarian public voted for, despite there being nothing in the winning party's manifesto which suggests policies to allow this situation to occur would be enacted.

Hmmm ...

4 minutes ago, RayC said:

My bad. Typo. I meant citizens.

Perhaps but that applies anywhere and is not specific to Hungarian elections.

Whatabouery. Deflection. Call it what you will. I have made no comment about Biden's immigration policies and will not start now. Moreover, any such discussion is totally irrelevant to this Hungarian election. Let's stick to the topic.

So to summarise; Your position is that as a result of Magyar's victory you hope - but do not necessarily expect - Hungary to open its borders and for there to be an influx of immigrants. This would be justified because that is what the Hungarian public voted for, despite there being nothing in the winning party's manifesto which suggests policies to allow this situation to occur would be enacted.

Hmmm ...

Hmmmmm indeed

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So what did the opposition party vote for? Do you have any notion about how heterodox the opposition is?

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Hope and change!

Tell me

This former senior official in the state apparatus, who was for a long time married to Orban's former justice minister, managed to reassure the disillusioned Fidesz supporters by promising them that he would be just as conservative as the outgoing government on immigration issues. At the same time, he attracted left-leaning voters exhausted by the divisions within traditional opposition parties and ready to vote for anyone who could rid them of the far right.

https://archive.ph/AP3sV#selection-3635.111-3635.574

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

This former senior official in the state apparatus, who was for a long time married to Orban's former justice minister, managed to reassure the disillusioned Fidesz supporters by promising them that he would be just as conservative as the outgoing government on immigration issues. At the same time, he attracted left-leaning voters exhausted by the divisions within traditional opposition parties and ready to vote for anyone who could rid them of the far right.

https://archive.ph/AP3sV#selection-3635.111-3635.574

I thought you were going to explain how heterodox the opposition is, no?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

I thought you were going to explain how heterodox the opposition is, no?

That article's statement is clear. How more heterodox can it get than opponents of immigration on one hand, and progressives on other. I owe you information. I don't offer you a customized explanation.

Something seems to have escaped all the political "observers" concerning the Hungarian elections.

Over the years, Orban has "cemented" the Hungarian constitution. Cementing his policies.

In order to implement reforms (political new orientation) the Hungarian constitution will have to be re-written.

But this can only be achieved by a parlamentary majority of 75%.

So, the only question of importance is: Does the winning party have a 3/4 majority in parlament?

9 minutes ago, swissie said:

Something seems to have escaped all the political "observers" concerning the Hungarian elections.

Over the years, Orban has "cemented" the Hungarian constitution. Cementing his policies.

In order to implement reforms (political new orientation) the Hungarian constitution will have to be re-written.

But this can only be achieved by a parlamentary majority of 75%.

So, the only question of importance is: Does the winning party have a 3/4 majority in parlament?

Actually it's a 2/3 majority. And they secured it.

• Pro-EU Magyar set for sweeping parliamentary majority

• Victory will allow his party to change constitution and key laws

• Magyar pledges to make Hungary a strong EU and NATO ally

• Poland-style quick release of EU funding unlikely

"With the two-thirds majority allowing us to amend the constitution, we will restore the system of checks and balances," Magyar said.

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/hungary-oppositions-landslide-win-heralds-reforms-thaw-eu-ties-2026-04-13/

11 minutes ago, swissie said:

Something seems to have escaped all the political "observers" concerning the Hungarian elections.

Over the years, Orban has "cemented" the Hungarian constitution. Cementing his policies.

In order to implement reforms (political new orientation) the Hungarian constitution will have to be re-written.

But this can only be achieved by a parlamentary majority of 75%.

So, the only question of importance is: Does the winning party have a 3/4 majority in parlament?

Good point to bring out. I was aware of it but I'm a bit of a politics nerd, don't ya know?

Correction, it is 2/3 they need, NOT 3/4 and Halleluiah yes he got the 2./3 needed to change the constitution.

Another issue to watch.

Will Orban flee to his lover Putin in Moscoe to join all the other fallen autocrats to avoid prosecution in Hungary for his obvious crimes?

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good point to bring out. I was aware of it but I'm a bit of a politics nerd, don't ya know?

Correction, it is 2/3 they need, NOT 3/4 and Halleluiah yes he got the 2./3 needed to change the constitution.

Best news for Europe for a long time. Good news for Europe are becoming scarce.