5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So when will the UK be giving up the nuclear weapons he is so much against?

You dolt. He was referring to the moving address the King made on the 80th Anniversary of VJ Day, when he made a pointed reference to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Nuclear weapons are a paradoxical double edged sword; they both contribute to peace and succour tomthe war monger. They allow the strong to act with impunity. They encourage despots to attack sovereign nations safe in the knowledge no one will mount a concerted defence. eg, feb. 2022.

The idea that nuclear weapons have made the world safer misses the darker reality: they have not ended conflict, but reshaped it in ways that reward risk-taking leaders and entrench power. By making full-scale war between major powers unthinkable, nuclear arsenals insulate regimes from external overthrow, protecting states like North Korea and emboldening assertive behaviour from Russia under Vladimir Putin. At the same time, they encourage constant low-level conflict through the “stability–instability paradox,” where war persists below the nuclear threshold. Crucially, this logic has not restrained democracies either. During the Cold War, the United States repeatedly engaged in nuclear brinkmanship—from isenhower’s doctrine of massive retaliation to Kennedy’s confrontation in the Cuban Missile Crisis—using the threat of catastrophe as a bargaining tool. The result is not peace, but a more dangerous equilibrium: one where leaders are shielded from consequences, populations bear the risk, and the shadow of escalation is constantly—and deliberately—invoked.

But now these weapons are in the hands of psychopathic madmen, who have never known combat, never seen suffering. Experience of war, even indirectly, through the vivid recollections of a parent, often is a restraining hand. Not so now.

The King may well have made that comment to TRUMP but it would have been during their "private" meeting where subjects like that may be conducted in PRIVATE!

Anything said in any such meeting should never be made public and every other decent world leader would have abided by that standard, but not TRUMP!

The other possibility is that the King wants his (very reasonable) thoughts to be known, but he's not allowed.

Trump gave him what he wants, along with plausible deniability.

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Any individual with self-esteem or any institution with dignity or grace has no need to respond.

Juvenile punks who have been abused as kids and have no self-esteem and no self love, will respond viciously to anything that appears to be a personal attack. Hence the hourly Trump tantrums.

They may cover up the lack of self-esteem with a lot of bloviation and bragadachio, but we all know how this ridiculous street trash president truly feels about himself.

I can fully understand how you felt not accepted in America,

22 minutes ago, impulse said:

The other possibility is that the King wants his (very reasonable) thoughts to be known, but he's not allowed.

Trump gave him what he wants, along with plausible deniability.

If so he would have used a Head Of State that others would believe, not that lying buffoon!

If so he would have used a Head Of State that others would believe, not that lying buffoon!

Show me someone today who gets more coverage than Trump. In fact, show me someone in history that does.

10 hours ago, ericbj said:

Trump lacks both the competence and the guts of Tomyris. In 520 B.C. she destroyed the army of Cyrus the Great, decapitated the Emperor, and plunged his head into a skin filled with human blood; as she had threatened if ever he crossed into her territory.

Of course there is another difference. She was defending the independence of her people from Persian subjugation. Trump is attempting to vassalise the Persians; along with others.

Abstracted from https://www.ancient-origins.net :

Tomyris was an ancient ruler of the Massagetae, a Scythian pastoral-nomadic confederation in Central Asia. She became famous for her bravery and especially for the greatest battle she ever fought – the day when Cyrus the Great died.

The story of Tomyris is included in books by Strabo, Polyaenus, Cassiodorus, and Jordanes. However, the earliest writing about her comes from Herodotus, who lived from 484 to 425 BC.

The name of Tomyris and her son Spargapises, have roots in Persia, but the Hellenic forms of their names are most commonly used. Spargapises was the head of his mother’s army. During battles mother and son fought side by side.

Her legend was well known amongst Renaissance artists.

Shakespeare makes reference to her in Henry VI Part I,

The Countess of Auvergne:

"The plot is laid: if all things fall out right,

I shall as famous be by this exploit

As Scythian Tomyris by Cyrus' death."

According to Ammianus Marcelinus, the origins of the Massagetae may have been the kingdom Alans (Indo-Iranians). They migrated westwards and became the dominant power in many parts of Asia and influenced Europe.

For those who like blood and the thunder of hooves, this could be just up their street:

"Tomiris" - Kazakh Historical Drama. (English subtitles)

https://youtu.be/qNNBuJGZ6CQ

Back in those days leaders would march into battle with their troops leading the way. If Trump got anyone near a front line he would soil his pants and the logistics team could not carry enough pampers for the coward and a non-patriot p****.

4 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

You dolt. He was referring to the moving address the King made on the 80th Anniversary of VJ Day, when he made a pointed reference to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Nuclear weapons are a paradoxical double edged sword; they both contribute to peace and succour tomthe war monger. They allow the strong to act with impunity. They encourage despots to attack sovereign nations safe in the knowledge no one will mount a concerted defence. eg, feb. 2022.

The idea that nuclear weapons have made the world safer misses the darker reality: they have not ended conflict, but reshaped it in ways that reward risk-taking leaders and entrench power. By making full-scale war between major powers unthinkable, nuclear arsenals insulate regimes from external overthrow, protecting states like North Korea and emboldening assertive behaviour from Russia under Vladimir Putin. At the same time, they encourage constant low-level conflict through the “stability–instability paradox,” where war persists below the nuclear threshold. Crucially, this logic has not restrained democracies either. During the Cold War, the United States repeatedly engaged in nuclear brinkmanship—from isenhower’s doctrine of massive retaliation to Kennedy’s confrontation in the Cuban Missile Crisis—using the threat of catastrophe as a bargaining tool. The result is not peace, but a more dangerous equilibrium: one where leaders are shielded from consequences, populations bear the risk, and the shadow of escalation is constantly—and deliberately—invoked.

But now these weapons are in the hands of psychopathic madmen, who have never known combat, never seen suffering. Experience of war, even indirectly, through the vivid recollections of a parent, often is a restraining hand. Not so now.

Ah, name calling, how clever.

My post has nothing to do with the King's speech, try to follow along.

Thank Obama financing Iran to develop nukes.

Charlie sausage fingers meets sausage man at the sausage factory how vomit inducing can one day get 🤔

Thank Obama financing Iran to develop nukes.

Obama financed them, Trump sanctioned them, then Biden rolled back the sanctions.

Is it any wonder Hamas (and Putin) attacked on the Obama and Biden watches and were surprisingly quiet during Trump 45?

59 minutes ago, impulse said:

Obama financed them, Trump sanctioned them, then Biden rolled back the sanctions.

Is it any wonder Hamas (and Putin) attacked on the Obama and Biden watches and were surprisingly quiet during Trump 45?

Biden waived the sanctions, and froze Trump's weapons shipments to Ukraine.

Be nice to have the missile defense system the Obama canceled for Putin.

No doubt Putin and the mullahs saw Biden's Afghanistan debacle and decided there'd never be a better time than under Biden.

4 hours ago, impulse said:

Show me someone today who gets more coverage than Trump. In fact, show me someone in history that does.

He gets all that coverage for all the wrong reasons and believed only by its dwindling MAGA base!

He gets all that coverage for all the wrong reasons and believed only by its dwindling MAGA base!

Maybe. But it got him elected.

And a lot of us enjoy watching the lefties when he trolls them. Still, there's some stuff he says that's cringeworthy.

But I can't imagine a USA (or a world) with the Kackler as President. Iran would have probably already nuked Tel Aviv.

Why do you keep asking the same question over and over Yellowtail you have been answered. Are you hoping one of us will say Yes King Charles agrees the use of Nuclear Weapons ? your clutching at straws. You won't know this but his mother brought Charles up with all the Decorum and what can be said and what you can't say 60+ years of learning before he took the Crown. So no Charles will never admit to anything like this its just Trump shooting his gob off. So stop asking the same question and deflecting stick to the Thread.

we all know the guy has no class no education and he's a misogynist

During the event, King Charles III approached a line of cabinet members to shake their hands.

Next, Queen Camilla followed behind him.

And then, for some odd reason, President Trump stepped in front of her, blocking the rest of the line, so that he could shake the hands of... yes, his own administration.

"He Has Zero Respect For Women": Trump Was Unbelievably Rude To Queen Camilla Yesterday, And I Can't Believe He Did This

https://au.yahoo.com/zero-respect-women-trump-unbelievably-202942078.html

Edited April 30Apr 30 by Mavideol

5 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

we all know the guy has no class no education and he's a misogynist

During the event, King Charles III approached a line of cabinet members to shake their hands.

Next, Queen Camilla followed behind him.

And then, for some odd reason, President Trump stepped in front of her, blocking the rest of the line, so that he could shake the hands of... yes, his own administration.

"He Has Zero Respect For Women": Trump Was Unbelievably Rude To Queen Camilla Yesterday, And I Can't Believe He Did This

https://au.yahoo.com/zero-respect-women-trump-unbelievably-202942078.html

I think King Charles is very classy.

16 hours ago, Enoon said:

If you were not a crass, pig ignorant, semi educated, unsubtle thug, you would know that the King thinks it extremely regrettable that any country should possess nuclear weapons.

That is the sort of person he is and the sort of idea that he has held for many years.

Guaranteed he would not have attempted to communicate that idea to Trump because Trump, like you, is also a crass, pig ignorant, semi educated, unsubtle thug.

The King enjoys the rural life so it would have been fairly easy for him to deal with the farmyard stink that hangs in the air around Trump.

Come now @Enoon , come down off that fence you are sitting on!

On 4/29/2026 at 5:29 PM, blaze master said:

So we should expect a denial of this claim shortly i would assume.

Indeed:

Buckingham Palace issued a rare clarification after President Trump claimed at a 2026 White House dinner that King Charles III supported his stance on preventing Iranian nuclear proliferation. The Palace emphasized the King is "mindful" of established UK government policy, not endorsing U.S. actions, aiming to maintain royal political neutrality. [1, 2, 3, 4]

The Palace stressed that the King's stance is aligned with the UK government’s "long-standing and well-known position on the prevention of nuclear proliferation".

Edited May 1May 1 by samtam

On 4/30/2026 at 9:07 AM, impulse said:

Obama financed them, Trump sanctioned them, then Biden rolled back the sanctions.

Is it any wonder Hamas (and Putin) attacked on the Obama and Biden watches and were surprisingly quiet during Trump 45?

To mistake correlation for control is to confuse appearance with reality.
It happened on their watch isn’t an explanation—it’s coincidence dressed up as causation.

To mistake correlation for control is to confuse appearance with reality.
It happened on their watch isn’t an explanation—it’s coincidence dressed up as causation.

If you want the causation part, go to YouTube and look up videos with "Sowell Obama" in the title. He's got tons of reasons to claim that Obama was the worst president ever.

Here's a good title to start: Thomas Sowell EXPOSES Netanyu, Obama and Biden Admin in Israel - Palestine Conflict __ Intellectuals

BTW, he's nowhere near the only one. Just very unlikely to be called out as a racist.

Edited May 1May 1 by impulse

Just now, samtam said:

Indeed:

Buckingham Palace issued a rare clarification after President Trump claimed at a 2026 White House dinner that King Charles III supported his stance on preventing Iranian nuclear proliferation. The Palace emphasized the King is "mindful" of established UK government policy, not endorsing U.S. actions, aiming to maintain royal political neutrality. [1, 2, 3, 4]

The Palace stressed that the King's stance is aligned with the UK government’s "long-standing and well-known position on the prevention of nuclear proliferation".

Everyone had told me no response would be given.

While I'm not a Trump fan I admire him. Like all of the greatest people in the history of the World Trump is never happy unless he's striving for yet another PB.

The UK was part of the Iranian nuke deal that Trump tore up. They want their oversight back, not some fake war over Epstein.

Just now, impulse said:

If you want the causation part, go to YouTube and look up videos with "Sowell Obama" in the title. He's got tons of reasons to claim that Obama was the worst president ever.

Here's a good title to start: Thomas Sowell EXPOSES Netanyu, Obama and Biden Admin in Israel - Palestine Conflict __ Intellectuals

BTW, he's nowhere near the only one. Just very unlikely to be called out as a racist.

I am not here to look for evidence to support your claims — that is your burden.
Calling Obama, the 'worst president ever' is an emotional value judgment, not a fact.
Explain and justify your ranking first, then I will respond.
It is a non sequitur to your claim that Trump deterred Hamas and Putin and Obama did not.

Edited May 1May 1 by LosLobo

On 4/29/2026 at 4:55 PM, samtam said:

Trump's remarks about the King's "support" for an Iran without nuclear weapons seem completely fabricated. King Charles is well versed in his role which precludes any remark like this. Given Trump's ability to fabricate about who and what was said to him are well known, so the king would have been completely wary of saying anything other than anodyne remarks. On the other hand his address to a joint meeting of Congress was a masterclass in subtlety and wit, and pointedly his admiration for the US was directed at the American people.

It truly makes me wonder if he believes all those fantastic lies that spew from his gaping maw.