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Israel is Losing America

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This video is 40 minutes, so no time to watch it all.

Assuming it's true, will Israel survive without US support?

Also, it's not just about Israel but about the US.

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    You can be sure that Epstein, an Israeli agent, shared compromising material about Trump with Mossad. Trump will never side against Netanyahu or any future Israeli Prime Minister. He is both owned a

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    No. Israel could not survive or exist without US support. And their arrogance, and the willingness to follow the dictates of the extremists and the Orthodox super freaks who despise the Palestinians h

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From the push toward war with Iran to the broader role of the Zionist lobby in shaping U.S. foreign policy, this video examines a question that more and more Americans are starting to ask: Does the U.S. government still fundamentally answer to the American people? Because this issue goes far beyond Israel, Iran, or the Middle East. It goes to the heart of American sovereignty itself. Using historical examples, we explore what happens when political energy is consumed by internal disputes while powerful interests continue steering the direction of the state from above. At what point does a government stop being truly “by the people and for the people”?

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Trump is hard to read.

He seems to be best buddies with Netanyahu ...

.... but he is also pro US sovereignty.

To be continued ...

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Does the U.S. government still fundamentally answer to the American people? Because this issue goes far beyond Israel, Iran, or the Middle East.

Politicians on both sides answer to their donors. (And to Mossad, who have 8x10 glossies of that party last Friday) Not to the American people.

In a similar vein, the Dems gave it away when they don't support voter ID in spite of over 3/4 of their own voters supporting it.

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23 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Trump is hard to read.

He seems to be best buddies with Netanyahu ...

.... but he is also pro US sovereignty.

To be continued ...

Tucker doubting Trump's loyalty to the US vs Israel.

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10 minutes ago, bannork said:

Tucker doubting Trump's loyalty to the US vs Israel.

As I pondered a few weeks back, will Carlson run for the WH and if so what would his policy towards the abusive Israel/US relationship be.

There’s a wide open door for a ‘Real America First’ platform.

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This video is 1 year old, so clearly it's not happening.

But Trump did apparently threaten to abandon Israel if the Gaza war continues.

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Maybe Israel is NOT losing America ...

Trump threatens Arab countries to recognize Israel.

So it's never going to happen under Trump.

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27 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Maybe Israel is NOT losing America ...

Trump threatens Arab countries to recognize Israel.

So it's never going to happen under Trump.

Israel and Saudi Arabia were having peace talks and they were well on their way to normalising relations .

Saudi and Israel being friends .

This scared the Palestinians , they were worried Israel may befriend the Arab World and that would leave the Palestinians isolated .

That is the reason why Palestine attacked Israel , to stop Israel and Saudi having normal relations

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Don't worry, Americans. Your daddy won't let you sign any bad deals!thumbsup

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1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Don't worry, Americans. Your daddy won't let you sign any bad deals!thumbsup

And here we see who’s actually deciding the objectives of this illegal Israeli/US war of aggression.

Trump can’t negotiate an end to the war he’s not controlling.

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As I pondered a few weeks back, will Carlson run for the WH and if so what would his policy towards the abusive Israel/US relationship be.

There’s a wide open door for a ‘Real America First’ platform.

Yes he will run for president on the racist Jew hatred platform.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-antisemite-of-the-year-b2888809.html

“Carlson’s divisive, hateful, and dangerous rhetoric and his repeated glowing interviews with bigots and Hitler apologists have made him the most reviled Jew-hater over the last 12 months.”

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5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes he will run for president on the racist Jew hatred platform.

When will you finally understand and admit that anyone who disagrees with Israel's policies is labelled a Jew hater and antisemite and stop spreading that Zionist mind control on here?

He isn't planning to impose racist policies on Jewish people living in the US. He just disagrees with Israel.

Please please stop regurgitating that mind control.

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You can be sure that Epstein, an Israeli agent, shared compromising material about Trump with Mossad.

Trump will never side against Netanyahu or any future Israeli Prime Minister. He is both owned and handsomely compensated by Israel, the carrot and the stick.

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24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes he will run for president on the racist Jew hatred platform.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-antisemite-of-the-year-b2888809.html

You were paying attention to what the ‘good guys on both sides’ rightwing extremist, white supremicists were chanting while marching in Charlottesville?!

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, when the rightwing extremists get tired of hating on Muslims, they’ll get right back to hating on Jews.

Observing this reality is not support for any of it.

Just be careful which side you back.

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1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You were paying attention to what the ‘good guys on both sides’ rightwing extremist, l white supremicists were chanting while marching in Charlottesville?!

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, when the rightwing extremists get tired of hating on Muslims, they’ll get right back to hating on Jews.

Observing this reality is not support for any of it.

Just be careful which side you back.

Bizarre post.

Of course I was paying attention. Duh.

I support decent Americans.

Trump and Carlson (both Putin poodles) are the worst of the worst.

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8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bizarre post.

Of course I was paying attention. Duh.

I support decent Americans.

Trump and Carlson (both Putin poodles) are the worst of the worst.

We’ll deal with the bizarre when we see the outcome of Trump’s continuing service to Israel.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We’ll deal with the bizarre when we see the outcome of Trump’s continuing service to Israel.

What are you on about?

You know perfectly well that I've been a vehement opponent of both Trump and Netanyahu.

That said, any American president has agency on how to deal with Israel policy.

Every other president said no to Trump about Iran. Trump said yes. The blame is on Trump.

It's similar to when Trump gets rolled over by Putin.

Of course Putin is going to try. But that Trump goes along with it is on Trump.

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5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel and Saudi Arabia were having peace talks and they were well on their way to normalising relations .

Saudi and Israel being friends .

This scared the Palestinians , they were worried Israel may befriend the Arab World and that would leave the Palestinians isolated .

That is the reason why Palestine attacked Israel , to stop Israel and Saudi having normal relations

What have you been smoking?

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel and Saudi Arabia were having peace talks and they were well on their way to normalising relations .

Saudi and Israel being friends .

This scared the Palestinians , they were worried Israel may befriend the Arab World and that would leave the Palestinians isolated .

That is the reason why Palestine attacked Israel , to stop Israel and Saudi having normal relations

Israel and Saudi Arabia were having peace talks and they were well on their way to normalising relations .

Saudi and Israel being friends .

This scared the IRGC , they were worried Israel may befriend the Arab World and that would leave Iran isolated .

That is the reason why Hamas attacked Israel , to stop Israel and Saudi having normal relations

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

What have you been smoking?

Hasbara Hash... guaranteed to blow your mind after a few hits.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Israel and Saudi Arabia were having peace talks and they were well on their way to normalising relations .

Saudi and Israel being friends .

This scared the IRGC , they were worried Israel may befriend the Arab World and that would leave Iran isolated .

That is the reason why Hamas attacked Israel , to stop Israel and Saudi having normal relations

Yes, Hamas and Iran are a team .

Iran funds Hamas .

Hamas are an Iranian proxy .

Palestine want an Iranian styled state governed by sharia law

Its clearly written in the Palestine charter

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No. Israel could not survive or exist without US support. And their arrogance, and the willingness to follow the dictates of the extremists and the Orthodox super freaks who despise the Palestinians have caused them to lose support around the world, become a pariah state, and be considered extremist and genocidal by the majority of the planet.

It is as if all consciousness is gone on the part of the government, and they have completely lost any objectivity or perspective.

I'm not a Jew hater, and I'm not anti-semitic, but I have no sympathy for the state of Israel nor the extremists who are dictating policy.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You were paying attention to what the ‘good guys on both sides’ rightwing extremist, white supremicists were chanting while marching in Charlottesville?!

Not this again...............The Nazis and rioters were bad , but there were good guys on both sides .

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53 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Not this again...............The Nazis and rioters were bad , but there were good guys on both sides .

Yeah the white supremacist mob carrying tiki torches and chaning "Jews will not replace us" were chock full of good people.

BTW _-- Tucker Carlson is a promoter of the fascist great replacement conspiracy theory same as the tiki torch mob.

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah the white supremacist mob carrying tiki torches and chaning "Jews will not replace us" were chock full of good people.

Those were part of the bad people , there was also good people there on the Right side .

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6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Those were part of the bad people , there was also good people there on the Right side .

No there weren't.

That was the group organized by the "Alt Right" to gather in Charlottesville.

Either you don't know what happened, you're lying, or you actually believe the Trump "good people on both sides" rhetoric.

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11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What are you on about?

You know perfectly well that I've been a vehement opponent of both Trump and Netanyahu.

That said, any American president has agency on how to deal with Israel policy.

Every other president said no to Trump about Iran. Trump said yes. The blame is on Trump.

It's similar to when Trump gets rolled over by Putin.

Of course Putin is going to try. But that Trump goes along with it is on Trump.

You assert every president has agency

That may have changed with Trump, it’s certainly not supported by the long history of US vetos of UN against Israel, while AIPAC boasts of having brought down Massie for his stance on Israel.

Carlson is platforming the observable abusive nature of the U.S. /Israel relationship, Charlie Kirk did likewise, but until recently such views were almost never heard, certainly not in any mainstream political context.

I’m not yet convinced that Carlson will run for the WH, I am increasingly convinced ending or otherwise drastically changing U.S. support for Israel will be on the ticket.

There is a clearly a growing public appetite to end this relationship, it will show up in the mainstream political debate.

Bizarre ad it is, supporters of ‘America First’ might actually want ‘America first’.

The cat is out of the bag.

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Not this again...............The Nazis and rioters were bad , but there were good guys on both sides .

Yes that again Nick.

The extreme rightwing white supremicists will always get back to hating on Jews.

Choose wisely.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes that again Nick.

The extreme rightwing white supremicists will always get back to hating on Jews.

Choose wisely.

Donald isn't an extreme right wing White supremacist though .The far Left and the the Right are both Neo Nazis .

I don't support any extremists , racists or Neo Nazis

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