and to add another to his long list of loosing, this time he played the TACO that's a real bend over now, I do think he finally is coming to terms that he lost

Trump tells Iran ceasefire ended, agrees to continue dialogue

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/trump-tells-iran-ceasefire-ended-agrees-to-continue-dialogue/ar-AA27F5Gr?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6a51a258ecf541cb990b2ae5b00043ab&ei=58

MAGAs like to toss around "haters or claiming there is some syndrome, but rational people can see Trump is really losing when he is the butt of jokes on late nights shows or the Comedy Channel.

This is hilarious, though a touch embarrassing to Americans. It uses things the clown actually said at a NATO summit. The jokes pretty much write themselves.

The whole world is laughing.

MAGAs can take solace, I guess, is what they seem to consider Trump's greatest achievement (no, not scamming cult members out of their life savings via his meme coin, now down 98.7% from its launch). You know what it is: the border.

Trump has opened up strawberry picking jobs for all those dum(b) and poorly educated MAGAs Trump claims to love so much.

37 minutes ago, Wingate said:

"haters

Hey "haters, here's another "loss" you can't blame on Biden. Biden did lose his mind though, a long time ago.

But for Trump these hater "losses" that keep piling up, are huge WINS for America by a WINNING president Trump.

There is good news though and its all bad for you dumocrats; only 924 more days of Trump WINNING....keep seething haters. America and the world laughs at you and your libtard clown-world antics and failures.

51 minutes ago, Wingate said:

This is hilarious,

So is this comment by biden, but not everyone, President Trump included has the terrific vision and engineering prowess of the cognitive bombshell muppet Joe. He was declared unfit to stand trial for stealing, possessing, sharing classified documents. This amazing legacy accomplishment is a first in American politics AND the ultimate humiliation for the cognitive bumbling moron biden. Remember that attribute for the auto-pen fraudster Biden, the same loser who pre-emptively pardoned 5 members of his crime family backdated to January 2014 for unknown crimes. Who will laugh at who?? The railway design engineer or the POTUS who secured the border and immigration, slashed crime, inflation, wars etc., and saved the country?

42 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

Hey "haters, here's another "loss" you can't blame on Biden. Biden did lose his mind though, a long time ago.

But for Trump these hater "losses" that keep piling up, are huge WINS for America by a WINNING president Trump.

There is good news though and its all bad for you dumocrats; only 924 more days of Trump WINNING....keep seething haters. America and the world laughs at you and your libtard clown-world antics and failures.

Can't stop winning! 😂

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MANEMP#

21 hours ago, candide said:

Can't stop winning! 😂

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MANEMP#

Oh yeah, candide, you absolute economic savant, showing your relentless pursuit of full on nothing-burgers and feckless dumocrat gotcha attempts!

A company drops $250 billion to build the largest semiconductor manufacturing campus in U.S. history, create ~90,000 jobs, and onshore critical AI chip production in 2026… and your galaxy-brain counter is posting the All Employees, Manufacturing graph like you just dropped a nuclear truth bomb. Congratulations, Sherlock. You discovered that manufacturing employment has been declining for decades because of automation and productivity. What a stunning revelation. Hey, Captain obvious...is water wet? Did you also solve world hunger with a "let them eat cake" meme?It's genuinely impressive how fast you ran to FRED to find the most irrelevant, cherry-picked chart possible. "Haha, see? The line goes down!" while actual shovels are hitting dirt on billion-dollar fabs. Peak midwit energy. You didn't debunk the investment but you just proved you have the economic insight of a Reddit comment from 2012. At this point, candide isn't even a Trump hater. He's just a professional nostalgia merchant for America's industrial decline, furiously coping because good news happened without his permission. The future is getting built whether your dusty 80-year trend-line has a sad face or not. Keep seething in the comments, champ. The rest of us will be over here in reality.

2 hours ago, boganJoe said:

Oh yeah, candide, you absolute economic savant, showing your relentless pursuit of full on nothing-burgers and feckless dumocrat gotcha attempts!

A company drops $250 billion to build the largest semiconductor manufacturing campus in U.S. history, create ~90,000 jobs, and onshore critical AI chip production in 2026… and your galaxy-brain counter is posting the All Employees, Manufacturing graph like you just dropped a nuclear truth bomb. Congratulations, Sherlock. You discovered that manufacturing employment has been declining for decades because of automation and productivity. What a stunning revelation. Hey, Captain obvious...is water wet? Did you also solve world hunger with a "let them eat cake" meme?It's genuinely impressive how fast you ran to FRED to find the most irrelevant, cherry-picked chart possible. "Haha, see? The line goes down!" while actual shovels are hitting dirt on billion-dollar fabs. Peak midwit energy. You didn't debunk the investment but you just proved you have the economic insight of a Reddit comment from 2012. At this point, candide isn't even a Trump hater. He's just a professional nostalgia merchant for America's industrial decline, furiously coping because good news happened without his permission. The future is getting built whether your dusty 80-year trend-line has a sad face or not. Keep seething in the comments, champ. The rest of us will be over here in reality.

Obviously, the fact that manufacturing jobs have been decreasing under Trump gets on your nerves, hater! 😂

On 7/12/2026 at 7:12 AM, boganJoe said:

Oh yeah, candide, you absolute economic savant, showing your relentless pursuit of full on nothing-burgers and feckless dumocrat gotcha attempts!

A company drops $250 billion to build the largest semiconductor manufacturing campus in U.S. history, create ~90,000 jobs, and onshore critical AI chip production in 2026… and your galaxy-brain counter is posting the All Employees, Manufacturing graph like you just dropped a nuclear truth bomb. Congratulations, Sherlock. You discovered that manufacturing employment has been declining for decades because of automation and productivity. What a stunning revelation. Hey, Captain obvious...is water wet? Did you also solve world hunger with a "let them eat cake" meme?It's genuinely impressive how fast you ran to FRED to find the most irrelevant, cherry-picked chart possible. "Haha, see? The line goes down!" while actual shovels are hitting dirt on billion-dollar fabs. Peak midwit energy. You didn't debunk the investment but you just proved you have the economic insight of a Reddit comment from 2012. At this point, candide isn't even a Trump hater. He's just a professional nostalgia merchant for America's industrial decline, furiously coping because good news happened without his permission. The future is getting built whether your dusty 80-year trend-line has a sad face or not. Keep seething in the comments, champ. The rest of us will be over here in reality.

Another one for you, hater!

Investment in manufacturing decreased under Trump! 🤣🤣🤣

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?id=C307RX1Q020SBEA,

US District Judge Kathleen Williams told Trump in no uncertain terms that it is a joke to sue yourself, and then settle with yourself out of court for $1.8 billion. The attorneys who presented that farce in court are being referred for disciplinary action.

Trump wanted to pay himself so he could then compensate the convicted criminals who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January 2021, beating 140 police officers and threatening to hang the Vice President. In saner times, it would simply be accepted reality that beating police officers and threatening to hang the VP is not a job deserving of NBA player-level remuneration. Of course, with Trump, reality has been suspended. Crime in service to a wannabe king almost gains one knighthood. (one of the criminals Trump pardoned wanted a few million from the fraudulent suit to try to compensate a child he molested after his pardon, rather than face her charges in court.)

In a few days, one of the criticized lawyers in Trump's self-pay case---Todd Blanche---will go before the Senate seeking confirmation as AG. Blanche, you should recall, was (and still seems to be) Trump's personal lawyer. Blanche not only helped on this self-pay case, Blanche has ignored court orders to release the rest of the Epstein files, and Blanche was the one who arranged to move convicted trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell to a cushy prison with both pet dogs and yoga classes.

5 hours ago, Wingate said:

US District Judge Kathleen Williams told Trump in no uncertain terms that it is a joke to sue yourself, and then settle with yourself out of court for $1.8 billion. The attorneys who presented that farce in court are being referred for disciplinary action.

Trump wanted to pay himself so he could then compensate the convicted criminals who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January 2021, beating 140 police officers and threatening to hang the Vice President. In saner times, it would simply be accepted reality that beating police officers and threatening to hang the VP is not a job deserving of NBA player-level remuneration. Of course, with Trump, reality has been suspended. Crime in service to a wannabe king almost gains one knighthood. (one of the criminals Trump pardoned wanted a few million from the fraudulent suit to try to compensate a child he molested after his pardon, rather than face her charges in court.)

In a few days, one of the criticized lawyers in Trump's self-pay case---Todd Blanche---will go before the Senate seeking confirmation as AG. Blanche, you should recall, was (and still seems to be) Trump's personal lawyer. Blanche not only helped on this self-pay case, Blanche has ignored court orders to release the rest of the Epstein files, and Blanche was the one who arranged to move convicted trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell to a cushy prison with both pet dogs and yoga classes.

The judge has referred both Blanche and his sidekick to the state bar authorities.

Courts reject Trump's Hail Mary bids to avoid paying E. Jean Carroll

Courts at every level have rebuffed Trump's efforts to block the payment.

After three years, three levels of the federal courts system and countless legal filings, Donald Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll.

On Wednesday evening, a judge on the New York-based 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals denied Trump’s effort to pause an order issued earlier in the day by a district judge to send the money — $5 million plus interest — to Carroll.

That means Carroll, who is owed a total of $88.3 million plus interest from Trump as a result of two jury verdicts, is set to finally receive her first payment. The money is already in escrow.

...

The writing was on the wall as early as last week, after the Supreme Court said it wouldn’t consider Trump’s effort to overturn the 2023 verdict. But Trump made a series of eleventh-hour attempts to forestall the payment.

...

A second judgment of $83.3 million came after another trial in early 2024, in which a jury awarded Carroll for another set of remarks about her claims that a judge had found defamatory. Trump is still pursuing an appeal of that case.

...

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/09/donald-trump-e-jean-carroll-5-million-00992363

No more IRS immunity for trump and the rest of the crime family. It's really heartwarming to see.

"A US judge has voided a legal agreement between President Donald Trump and federal agencies that granted him immunity from tax audits and allowed his administration to create a since-abandoned $1.8bn (£1.3bn) "anti-weaponisation" fund.

In the ruling, Williams cast Trump's lawsuit - which he, two of his sons and the Trump Organization filed in 2026 - as far from a dispute between two opposing sides. Instead, she described it as more of an action carried out by lawyers with ties to Trump and those who claimed to have been government targets.

She also described the settlement as a bid to "provide some legitimacy to an agreement to confer immunity to people and entities affiliated with the President and to earmark billions of dollars from American taxpayers to redress grievances not defined in the law."

here's a good loss... in the inflation rate. US inflation just STUNNED the experts and FELL -0.4% month over month, the largest plummet in 6 YEARS — CNBC
Gasoline and fuel nearly -9%
Year over year, inflation is 3.5%, lower than economists expected
KEEP IT GOING Trump. 🇺🇸

Did I notice wrong or has the man with 4,000 litigations, both for and against, not tried to sue Ted Lieu once for calling him a pedophile? I mean, the guy has straight out said it on tv.

Is it something to do with disclosure? That he wants to keep it quiet?

Anyone who says the Donald hasn't sued because Lieu is an idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about clearly hasn't heard of the Epstein papers, which Lieu has read.

Another massive loss for Trump.

Trump admin refunds $81B in tariffs

President Donald Trump’s administration has paid back $81 billion it collected in tariffs before the U.S. Supreme Court ruled it illegal, according to budget data.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tariffs-refund-supreme-court-b3014394.html

5 hours ago, prologue said:

here's a good loss... in the inflation rate. US inflation just STUNNED the experts and FELL -0.4% month over month, the largest plummet in 6 YEARS — CNBC
Gasoline and fuel nearly -9%
Year over year, inflation is 3.5%, lower than economists expected
KEEP IT GOING Trump. 🇺🇸

Good news. However, as you mentioned, the main reason for this inflation decrease is global oil prices! 😃

As concerns YoY inflation, it was 2.9% in 2024.

BTW, Illisdean, what was your forum name before? 🤣

Edited July 14Jul 14 by candide

On 5/30/2026 at 1:16 AM, Kandinski said:

Winning what???

winning as being the biggest conman liar ever to sit in the oval office.

6 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Another massive loss for Trump.

Trump admin refunds $81B in tariffs

President Donald Trump’s administration has paid back $81 billion it collected in tariffs before the U.S. Supreme Court ruled it illegal, according to budget data.

ExecutiveBranch

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tariffs-refund-supreme-court-b3014394.html

go stand by your mailbox and wait for your doge check, your tariff rebate, the easter bunny and santa to show up

Who would know better about losses than these three room temp IQ losers.

On 7/11/2026 at 6:08 AM, Mavideol said:

I do think he finally is coming to terms that he lost

lost what exactly? Think again fool. Only a fool hates Trump so much to hope he loses his Iran intervention. A quick, brief and hopefully easy to comprehend summary for you low IQ haters.

Brief Summary of What Happened (July 2026):

• A fragile ceasefire (part of a June 2026 memorandum of understanding) between the US and Iran broke down.

• Iran attacked several commercial ships in the Strait of Hormuz (around July 6–8).

• President Trump publicly declared that the ceasefire was "over".

• The US responded with multiple rounds of airstrikes on Iranian military targets (air defenses, missile/drone sites, naval assets, etc.).

**Reports describe 3 or more consecutive nights/days of US strikes in the days following the collapse.

The US has also reimposed elements of a naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz, and both sides have continued limited exchanges (US strikes vs. Iranian missile/drone attacks on US-linked targets in the Gulf).This is an escalation but not (yet) a full return to large-scale war which Trump has described as limited action to punish Iran for the ship attacks and to secure shipping lanes.

1. NBC News – U.S. and Iran trade new attacks after Trump says ceasefire is ‘over’
   https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/us-iran-new-attacks-trump-ceasefire-over-gulf-hormuz-rcna353615

2. The Washington Post – U.S., Iran trade dozens more strikes in dangerous cycle
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/07/08/trump-declares-ceasefire-with-iran-has-ended/

3. Al Jazeera – Trump says ceasefire ‘over’, re-ups threats after US and Iran trade attacks
   https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/8/trump-says-ceasefire-over-after-us-iran-trade-attacks

4. CNN – Live updates on US resuming strikes (July 13 coverage)
   https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/13/world/live-news/iran-war-trump

5. The Guardian – Iran–US conflict updates after ceasefire collapse
   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/08/iran-us-war-ceasefire-peace-agreement-strikes-strait-of-hormuz

6. The New York Times – Trump says fighting with Iran has resumed
   https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/13/us/politics/trump-iran-ceasefire.html

Edited July 15Jul 15 by boganJoe

On 7/13/2026 at 5:39 PM, candide said:

Another one for you, hater!

Investment in manufacturing decreased under Trump! 🤣🤣🤣

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?id=C307RX1Q020SBEA,

To "candide" and you other low IQ haters; his chart highly misleading in context. (so typical for low IQ and desperate Trump haters). What the FRED chart actually shows The series C307RX1Q020SBEA measures Real private fixed investment: Nonresidential Structures: Manufacturing — that is, spending on physical buildings and structures (factories, plants, warehouses) by the manufacturing sector, in inflation-adjusted (chained 2017) dollars.

• It is not total manufacturing investment.

• It excludes equipment, machinery, software, R&D, and intellectual property — which make up the majority of modern manufacturing investment.

Context on the data

• Manufacturing structures investment is quite volatile and was already declining or flattening before Trump’s first term.

• It did fall during parts of Trump’s first term (2017–2021), especially around the 2020 COVID shock.

• Broader manufacturing investment (including equipment and IP) performed better in some periods.

Key point: Cherry-picking only "structures" is a narrow slice. Overall private investment in manufacturing (broader measures) showed growth in Trump’s first term pre-COVID, though it was not exceptional.Broader Picture (First Trump Term)

• Manufacturing jobs were growing steadily pre-COVID but then dropped sharply in 2020.

• Total manufacturing output and broader fixed investment had mixed results (stronger in equipment in some years, weaker in structures).

• The chart ignores the massive COVID disruption in 2020, which affected everything.

Bottom line: the claim "Investment in manufacturing decreased under Trump" is an overstatement when based only on this one narrow series. It's a classic example of cherry-picking data to fit a narrative. A more honest assessment would look at:

• Total manufacturing fixed investment (structures + equipment + IP)

• Manufacturing output / value added

• Jobs and wages....however

  well beyond the finite scope & abilities of candide and other low IQ haters.

On 7/11/2026 at 6:08 AM, Mavideol said:

played the TACO

You were saying....lol

33 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

lost what exactly? Think again fool. Only a fool hates Trump so much to hope he loses his Iran intervention. A quick, brief and hopefully easy to comprehend summary for you low IQ haters.

Brief Summary of What Happened (July 2026):

• A fragile ceasefire (part of a June 2026 memorandum of understanding) between the US and Iran broke down.

• Iran attacked several commercial ships in the Strait of Hormuz (around July 6–8).

• President Trump publicly declared that the ceasefire was "over".

• The US responded with multiple rounds of airstrikes on Iranian military targets (air defenses, missile/drone sites, naval assets, etc.).

**Reports describe 3 or more consecutive nights/days of US strikes in the days following the collapse.

The US has also reimposed elements of a naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz, and both sides have continued limited exchanges (US strikes vs. Iranian missile/drone attacks on US-linked targets in the Gulf).This is an escalation but not (yet) a full return to large-scale war which Trump has described as limited action to punish Iran for the ship attacks and to secure shipping lanes.

1. NBC News – U.S. and Iran trade new attacks after Trump says ceasefire is ‘over’
   https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/us-iran-new-attacks-trump-ceasefire-over-gulf-hormuz-rcna353615

2. The Washington Post – U.S., Iran trade dozens more strikes in dangerous cycle
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/07/08/trump-declares-ceasefire-with-iran-has-ended/

3. Al Jazeera – Trump says ceasefire ‘over’, re-ups threats after US and Iran trade attacks
   https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/8/trump-says-ceasefire-over-after-us-iran-trade-attacks

4. CNN – Live updates on US resuming strikes (July 13 coverage)
   https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/13/world/live-news/iran-war-trump

5. The Guardian – Iran–US conflict updates after ceasefire collapse
   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/08/iran-us-war-ceasefire-peace-agreement-strikes-strait-of-hormuz

6. The New York Times – Trump says fighting with Iran has resumed
   https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/13/us/politics/trump-iran-ceasefire.html

On April 7, 2026, Trump claimed we had achieved our military objective, whatever that is. Who's the fool? Seems as you have swallowed his garbage, hook, line and sinker.

This recent "loss" is another example of WINNING brought to you by a President who consistently achieves success and delivers outstanding outcomes for all Americans. So, rejoice haters, Trump is WINNING for America.

analysis:

Significant win for Trump on several fronts:

• Economic & Political Optics: The deal secures high-profile $550B+ Japanese investment commitments into US priority sectors (energy, semiconductors, infrastructure), paired with reciprocal 15% tariffs and expanded US export access. Trump can credibly tout reversing a longstanding deficit narrative into projected annual gains, reinforcing his "dealmaker" brand with tangible ally buy-in.

• Strategic Value: It deepens ties with a key Indo-Pacific partner amid China competition, channels foreign capital into American rebuilding priorities without new US spending, and delivers visible "wins" early in his term aligning with Trumps campaign promises on trade re-balancing.

This announcement itself hands Trump a clear messaging victory all you haters can relish, weep, derange and seethe over etc.

1 minute ago, boganJoe said:

This recent "loss" is another example of WINNING brought to you by a President who consistently achieves success and delivers outstanding outcomes for all Americans. So, rejoice haters, Trump is WINNING for America.

HJegseth

analysis:

Significant win for Trump on several fronts:

• Economic & Political Optics: The deal secures high-profile $550B+ Japanese investment commitments into US priority sectors (energy, semiconductors, infrastructure), paired with reciprocal 15% tariffs and expanded US export access. Trump can credibly tout reversing a longstanding deficit narrative into projected annual gains, reinforcing his "dealmaker" brand with tangible ally buy-in.

• Strategic Value: It deepens ties with a key Indo-Pacific partner amid China competition, channels foreign capital into American rebuilding priorities without new US spending, and delivers visible "wins" early in his term aligning with Trumps campaign promises on trade re-balancing.

This announcement itself hands Trump a clear messaging victory all you haters can relish, weep, derange and seethe over etc.

you really are desperate to show anything positive about the loser/grifter, my advise is for your to look at what Rubio, Vance, Hegseth and Trump himself said about any fees being charged on the Strait, if you can't find it, please let us know, I will provide you with more than 20 different sites and maybe, real maybe you will open your brain/eyes whatever you have damaged

20 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

Likely did, since Iran has no airforce and their navy although its is in the sea, its at the bottom of the sea and they are essentially defenseless. Now the objective is to get the uranium and bomb Iran into submission if ecessary, as in negotiate with bombs). Try harder hater. Here's a brief synopsis even you might be able to read and comprehend. Maybe try better sources for your news, you seem like an ill informed fake news ignoramus.

Current Status (as of July 15, 2026)

Trump’s stated military goals in the current phase appear to be:

• Degrade Iran’s ability to attack shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.

• Weaken Iran’s missile/drone capabilities and coastal military infrastructure.

• Re-establish freedom of navigation and deter further Iranian aggression.

• Avoid a full-scale ground war.

What the US has achieved so far:

• Conducted multiple rounds of airstrikes hitting dozens to over 100 Iranian targets (air defenses, missile sites, radar, naval assets, coastal facilities).

• Significantly damaged parts of Iran’s coastal military infrastructure and ability to project power in the immediate area of the Strait.

• Reimposed a naval blockade.

What has NOT been achieved:

• No regime change or major strategic surrender from Iran, yet

Bottom Line

Trump has achieved tactical successes (damage to Iranian military assets) but not strategic victory. The conflict is in a low-to-medium intensity phase with no clear end in sight. Trump has described the actions as "limited" and said he does not want a long war, while keeping pressure via blockade and strikes.

I wouldn't call Iran's destructive attacks on the surrounding countries as "limited." These missile and drone attacks have destroyed billions of dollars of these countries infrastructure and military facilities. There have also been civilian and military casualties.

that must really hurt his ego and his supporters, for somebody that keeps claiming his innocence that just proves how innocent he really is... pay and shut up

E. Jean Carroll Receives $5.6 Million Payment From Trump in Civil Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/14/nyregion/carroll-trump-settlement-million.html

E. Jean Carroll gets $5.6M from Trump for sex abuse, defamation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/07/14/e-jean-carroll-donald-trump-payment/90914263007/

Edited July 15Jul 15 by Mavideol

the reflecting pool saga keeps coming back to hit him and his stupidity and the lies keep coming back again

Matt Rein, a director at the Democrats, did some sleuthing around the monument and found "no sign" of any gashes.

He added in another post, "A worker even told me that he did not see anything of the sort, either."

One thing he did notice: "Lots of dirt and grime."

After it was drained, Trump once again changed his story. The slashes are not 300 feet long, they're apparently 300 yards long!

And finally, Congressmen Ted Lieu asked, "Hear me out and I know it's hard to fathom, but is it just possible that trump is lying?"

What They Found In The Drained Reflecting Pool

Yahoo News Australia

What They Found In The Drained Reflecting Pool

I'd be like Lady Gaga after Jan. 6 on that thing.

2 hours ago, boganJoe said:

To "candide" and you other low IQ haters; his chart highly misleading in context. (so typical for low IQ and desperate Trump haters). What the FRED chart actually shows The series C307RX1Q020SBEA measures Real private fixed investment: Nonresidential Structures: Manufacturing — that is, spending on physical buildings and structures (factories, plants, warehouses) by the manufacturing sector, in inflation-adjusted (chained 2017) dollars.

ExecutiveBranch

• It is not total manufacturing investment.

• It excludes equipment, machinery, software, R&D, and intellectual property — which make up the majority of modern manufacturing investment.

Context on the data

• Manufacturing structures investment is quite volatile and was already declining or flattening before Trump’s first term.

• It did fall during parts of Trump’s first term (2017–2021), especially around the 2020 COVID shock.

• Broader manufacturing investment (including equipment and IP) performed better in some periods.

Key point: Cherry-picking only "structures" is a narrow slice. Overall private investment in manufacturing (broader measures) showed growth in Trump’s first term pre-COVID, though it was not exceptional.Broader Picture (First Trump Term)

• Manufacturing jobs were growing steadily pre-COVID but then dropped sharply in 2020.

• Total manufacturing output and broader fixed investment had mixed results (stronger in equipment in some years, weaker in structures).

• The chart ignores the massive COVID disruption in 2020, which affected everything.

Bottom line: the claim "Investment in manufacturing decreased under Trump" is an overstatement when based only on this one narrow series. It's a classic example of cherry-picking data to fit a narrative. A more honest assessment would look at:

ExecutiveBranch

• Total manufacturing fixed investment (structures + equipment + IP)

• Manufacturing output / value added

• Jobs and wages....however

  well beyond the finite scope & abilities of candide and other low IQ haters.

Lol! Indicators are just indicators, but they seem to convergence to show a manufacturing investment in construction decline under Trump 2.0, despite his lies about it

Do you prefer total construction spending in manufacturing? 😃

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TLMFGCONS

3 hours ago, boganJoe said:

Who would know better about losses than these three room temp IQ losers.

As usual, Trump lies....🤣

And as usual you repost Trump's ridiculous lie! 😂

Edited July 15Jul 15 by candide