1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

You are assuming the girls knew what was going on. Reports would tend to indicate other wise. Drugs, alcohol and threats were used.

To me this is a bigger picture. Any person who tries to convence / convinces others to do anything outside of the norm should be charged and tried.

In my view this includes what are nowadays called 'influencers' who try, often with outright lies, to convince others that specific cosmetics, shampoos, vitamin etc., tablets have value. And not true. my opinion is that they should also be charged and tried.

For many yeas I lectured at several Thai universities. At 2 unis there were students (mostly female) who regularly convinced oher students to buy unproved / not approved tablets and cosmetics, etc.

One girl even arrived early and set up a display in my classroom (and I discovered she had done this in other class rooms).

I walked in, she instantly tried to make a sale to me. I responded with 'pack all of this up and take it to the deans' office*. never again create a display or try to sell to other students in my classroom'.

The dean was angry and told his staff to get it tested. The test revealed it was all junk. The dean came to my classroom, told Ms xxx to stand up and the dean asked her 'how many students in this room have bought itesm from you? ' She tried to change the subject, it didn't work, Dean told his admin stff (who were there) to take her to his office and telll her she cannot leave until she answers my questions.

Ultimately she was dismissed, grades cancelled, cannot register even again.

On 6/21/2026 at 11:48 AM, ravip said:

Decades or centuries back it was the opposite happening, wasn't it?

All the swans are getting their fair share...???

no centuries ago the black swans were enslaving each other , until the white swans stopped it, other than that the black swans remain relatively unspoilt , and seem adverse to self advancement of them selves and their environment preferring the areas managed by the white swans

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

. And at the bottom of the barrel we find Pakistanis,

"OMG, their food stinks!" "They smell different" "What's with the clothes" "They eat with their hands!" "Beards are dirty!" "There goes the neighbourhood"

You seem to have hit the nail on the head, a few more, but we won't go into it.😂

15 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

no centuries ago the black swans were enslaving each other , until the white swans stopped it, other than that the black swans remain relatively unspoilt , and seem adverse to self advancement of them selves and their environment preferring the areas managed by the white swans

If you look deep into it, you will see what happened in the Swan Lake. But, once again its how one perceive it.

1 hour ago, Tidal wave said:

The report for all apologists to mull over

Rape Gang Inquiry Report.

218 pages in pdf so can't post here follow Rupert Lowe MP on X'

NOBODY'S apologising for rape! What I'm apologising for is targeting the entire law-abiding Pakistani community for the actions of Mirpuri rapists. Do we have any absolute numbers for how many Pakistani rapists have been changed and/or convicted? That's what's important, not blaming immigrants.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

"Freeloading" can be proven by a paper trail. If someone is taking welfare, food stamps, unemployment benefits aso, that's a trail. Although I can't see how any "illegal" immigrant could do so.

The UK is a different story which I don't know as much about. Is NHS available to UK illegal immigrants? On what basis is free housing and maintenance provided to illegal immigrants and for how long? Are they allowed to work? After a decision on their case--how long does that take?--are they deported or self-deport if refused?

A lot of people think <illegal> immigrants are takers. In the US, I think they're a net benefit to society and don't take any opportunities away from Americans.

I don't know how to solve the EU/UK problem of over-immigration. This occurred primarily because Western countries are basically humanitarion--as it should be. Hindsight says the wave should never have been permitted. Too late for that.

As I see it, the only possible solution is to find work for all these immigrants, to contribute. That could be unrealistic when locals don't have jobs.

The illegals get all of the stuff from the government. The working people pay for it but get very little in return.

23 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

NOBODY'S apologising for rape! What I'm apologising for is targeting the entire law-abiding Pakistani community for the actions of Mirpuri rapists. Do we have any absolute numbers for how many Pakistani rapists have been changed and/or convicted? That's what's important, not blaming immigrants.

Your looking for numbers convicted Unbloc. You know many are hidden so the answer is no but it runs into thousands over 40 years. Even today they are finally facing justice in Court. We do not blame all Pakistani men as you say but the majority of the rape gangs are comitted by british Pakistani origin.

On 6/22/2026 at 12:45 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

it's hard for me to think Pakistanis are not being demonised simply because they are "other".

I am 100% certain that this has happened. Rape is rape. Men are monsters. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the "gang" part. Only one man is responsible for any rape.

It is estimated that these represent 15% (?) of rapes in the UK. Why is there not "faux outrage" over the other 85% of rapes done by Brit blokes?

I have not seen anywhere that any Pakistani women have contributed any testimony to this phenomenon. Surely, rape is not okay for them. All the rapists have mothers and sisters and wives. Why is nobody seeking their opinion. And, honestly, what to do about it.

whether you personally accept the pakistanis penchant for the rape of white girls or not is irrelevant

Men in general are not monsters Those in pakistani rape gangs are

What if two men hold the girl down whilst a 3rd rapes her what if one administered drugs ? are they not all guilty?

The other 85% of rapes was not the subject of a cover up by the authorities

Do you really think that Pakistani women are anything other than totally subservient to their husbands and male relatives

What to do about it ? Imprisonment, chemical or physical castration , and deportation send the pakistani rapists back to pakistan, the solution is simple enough

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

NOBODY'S apologising for rape! What I'm apologising for is targeting the entire law-abiding Pakistani community for the actions of Mirpuri rapists. Do we have any absolute numbers for how many Pakistani rapists have been changed and/or convicted? That's what's important, not blaming immigrants.

one post later you admit that you have no idea what you are talking about, Better you stop, What's important is the safety of our uk citizens not the feelings of immigrants they can always go home if they don't agree. its not all about them anymore How many have been charged and convicted ? thousands, but nowhere near enough, and the reasons for this shortfall are only too well known

Edited June 23Jun 23 by Bday Prang

32 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

one post later you admit that you have no idea what you are talking about, Better you stop, What's important is the safety of our uk citizens not the feelings of immigrants they can always go home if they don't agree. its not all about them anymore How many have been charged and convicted ? thousands, but nowhere near enough, and the reasons for this shortfall are only too well known

32 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

one post later you admit that you have no idea what you are talking about, Better you stop, What's important is the safety of our uk citizens not the feelings of immigrants they can always go home if they don't agree. its not all about them anymore How many have been charged and convicted ? thousands, but nowhere near enough, and the reasons for this shortfall are only too well known

"Only one man is responsible for any rape."

I don't but that. Yes maybe one man did the actual penetration. But perhaps the situation needed 1 or 2 or 3 more men to hold the girl (or boy) down / to completely immobilize her/him.

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

"Only one man is responsible for any rape."

I don't buy that. Yes maybe one man did the actual penetration. But perhaps the situation needed 1 or 2 or 3 more men to hold the girl (or boy) down / to completely immobilize her/him.

2 hours ago, ravip said:

If you look deep into it, you will see what happened in the Swan Lake. But, once again its how one perceive it.

did you really think i have any interest in ballet? well i dont

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"Only one man is responsible for any rape."

I don't but that. Yes maybe one man did the actual penetration. But perhaps the situation needed 1 or 2 or 3 more men to hold the girl (or boy) down / to completely immobilize her/him.

"Only one man is responsible for rape ? Really ? well what about when the victim is "spit roasted " or penetrated vaginally and anally simultaneously lots of guys from the sub continent indulge in that sort of activity ask the girls in pattaya there is a girl in our village who specialises in that with with indians and arabs seems to have done alright out of it too

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Your looking for numbers convicted Unbloc. You know many are hidden so the answer is no but it runs into thousands over 40 years. Even today they are finally facing justice in Court. We do not blame all Pakistani men as you say but the majority of the rape gangs are comitted by british Pakistani origin.

Yeah, I am looking for numbers, charged if not convicyrf. Neither you nor I can speak for the "past 40 years". All we can speak of is what's happening today.

Yes, I believe those convicted in a court of law should be deported to Pakistan even if they have acquired British citizenship. Just like that ISIS girl. No excuses.

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

"Only one man is responsible for rape ? Really ? well what about when the victim is "spit roasted " or penetrated vaginally and anally simultaneously lots of guys from the sub continent indulge in that sort of activity ask the girls in pattaya there is a girl in our village who specialises in that with with indians and arabs seems to have done alright out of it too

Are you saying that's what's in the Lowe and/or Casey reports?

First you mention a girl in your village, then girls in Pattaya. They specialise in servicing Indians and Arabs who actually do that to them as willing participants for money? I'm curious: How much?

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

"Only one man is responsible for any rape."

Nonsense. It only takes one bloke to rape any woman unless she's trained in martial arts. Hold her down? Jeezus.

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

one post later you admit that you have no idea what you are talking about, Better you stop, What's important is the safety of our uk citizens not the feelings of immigrants they can always go home if they don't agree. its not all about them anymore How many have been charged and convicted ? thousands, but nowhere near enough, and the reasons for this shortfall are only too well known

I seem to have done more research into this than most here. I did not yet read the Low & Casey reports. Have you?

Many PoC have been born in the UK, second or third generation. That means their Brits. They deserve our protection, too, right?

Let's see some numbers when you quote "thousands".

There is no single total charge count for grooming gangs, as they comprise hundreds of localized networks investigated over several decades across the United Kingdom. While many perpetrators convicted belong to British Pakistani and South Asian communities, individual trials and government reviews list thousands of charges for rape and child sexual exploitation. [1, 2, 3]

[NOTE: That means including every person of any nationality, including British charged with rape and child-rape, not just Pakistanis.]

Specific examples from major, high-profile gang investigations include:

• Rochdale (2025): Seven men, largely of Pakistani heritage, were convicted of multiple counts of rape and child sexual abuse, leading to a combined 174 years in prison. The ringleader, Mohammed Zahid, was convicted of 30 counts of rape and jailed for 35 years.[1, 2, 3]

• Huddersfield (2018): Twenty men primarily of Pakistani heritage were convicted of over 120 rape and abuse offences against vulnerable girls, receiving sentences totaling 221 years.[1]

• Rotherham (2016-2018): Extensive trials into child sexual exploitation resulted in long-term prison sentences for multiple men for dozens of counts of conspiracy to rape, indecent assault, and statutory rape. [1, 2]

Official Statistics and Investigations:
Government audits and official agencies—such as the National Crime Agency—have shifted to comprehensive, national tracking. Because many cases were previously mishandled, the UK government is conducting a nationwide inquiry to investigate over 1,000 cold cases and systematically track suspect ethnicity and nationality moving forward

Okay, so I'd say the law is in motion. If there is an inquiry into "1,000 cold cases" perhaps there will be some results.

If have difficulty discerning 'rape gangs' which presumably have raped adult women and 'grooming gangs' who have apparent groomed children. Am I correct?

Well these 2 wont be raping any kids for a few years the other 1 the eldest is on the run in Pakistan. He tried to campaign to join the labour party. This sentance was carried out yesterday at Sheffield Crown Court.

Edited June 23Jun 23 by BarraMarra

The do gooders on here and Starmer fans will tell you this is fake and not to be believed take a listen and make up your mind of what we in the UK have to face Daily. Complain we get a knock at the door or called far right racist and causing unrest to the UK.

Edited June 23Jun 23 by BarraMarra

There seems to be a lot of panic at the thought of former colonials beating their white counterparts in the crime business Rest easy. White criminals lead crime by far.

By the way, there was no Pakistan during WW2, so the Indians who helped fly Hurricanes during the Battle of Britain probably included Muslims. The British didn't segregate pilots by religion in those days.

Indian Muslims made a massive contribution to the UK's war effort making up roughly a third to 40% of the British Indian Army—the largest volunteer force in history—hundreds of thousands of Indian Muslims fought, supplied, and died for the Allies.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022/statistics-on-ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022-html

Edited June 23Jun 23 by Purdey

Bore off Purdey what the f ks it got to do what happened in WW2. How about a bit of thought for these 12 old girls kidnapped and gang raped my these Monsters and your trying to defend them.