2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Read and understand Unblockthe planet Grooming gangs in the UK are ukpakistani origin. Take time to listen to this video it may make you think a little more.

They are muslim pedophile rape gangs, you groom horses, not schoolgirls

Off topic defection posts and replies regarding the USA ICE and anti-immigration have been removed as this topic is about:

The UK "rape gang

Not clear how any girl/woman would ever allow themselves to be "groomed/courted" by the looks of those guys. Those are some ugly mugs.

11 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Nah, this is not acceptable in any country or culture! Of course, you hear of those shocking gang rapes in India. They're news because they're uncommon. Would you expect less in a country of a billion people?

AI: Sexual violence remains a widespread and severely underreported issue in Pakistan. The most recent data from the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) reveals that 6,624 rape cases were registered nationwide, equating to one woman raped approximately every 45 minutes. [1]

Key statistics and factors characterizing rape in Pakistan include:

• Underreporting: Human rights advocates, including the Senate of Pakistan, note that up to 70% of gender-based violence and sexual assault incidents go unreported. Stigma and fear prevent many victims from coming forward. [1, 2]

• Conviction Rates: Despite legislative efforts like the Anti-Rape Law, conviction rates are staggeringly low. Data shows national conviction rates hover between 0.5% and 5% depending on the region and the specific type of violence. [1]

• Child Sexual Abuse: Children are highly vulnerable to sexual abuse, with NGOs recording thousands of cases annually. Reports indicate an average of 12 children per day—or one every two hours—being subjected to sexual abuse, often by acquaintances or people known to the family. [1, 2]

• Regional Discrepancies: The province of Punjab consistently reports the highest volume of both rape and child sexual abuse cases, followed in volume by the provinces of Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Thus it ever was since God scooped Adam's rib. Rape is happening in Pakistan, rape is happening in the UK. What percentage is Pakistani?

I'm sure there are some truths in both these reports but the Lowe report is racist, anti-immigrant claptrap concealed in concern.

Did you actually read the Lowe document or are you just generating political faux outrage because that's what you do for a pass time?

For all rape gang deniers who even stalk these threads dismissing Rupert Lowe's report.

Solicitor David Greenwood presented a dossier suggesting that over 72,000 children may have been at risk of exploitation across the "Bradford" District between 1996 and 2025.

20 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Men rape women. It's the gang part I find hard to swallow. Let's just get together a few drinking buddies and we'll all sweet-talk this girl, then take turns screwing her. Have you ever screwed in a pack? Makes no sense.

Maybe this will make this repellent practice less hard to swallow:

British-Pakistani researchers say 84% of grooming gang members are Asian: "It's very important we talk about it"

The report’s co-author, Haras Rafiq, is from Rochdale, where 19 British-Pakistani men were jailed between 2012 and 2015 after a grooming ring thought to have abused at least 47 girls was uncovered.

Mr Rafiq told Sky News: “I’m from the heart of where one of the biggest high-profile cases has happened over the last few years, and I’m saying it’s very important that we do talk about it because the problem won’t go away.

“We didn’t want there to be a pattern of people from our ethnic demographic carrying out these attacks. But unfortunately we were proven wrong.”

“British white men they tend to work individually. They tend to work online where they groom and they are the majority of perpetrators.

“When it comes to Asian men or Pakistani men they tend to do it in groups.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/quilliam-grooming-gangs-report-asian-abuse-rotherham-rochdale-newcastle-a8101941.html

13 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Did you actually read the Lowe document or are you just generating political faux outrage because that's what you do for a pass time?

I have both the Lowe and the Casey reports. I will read them in due course and perhaps comment further if they generate any insights.

My "outrage" is not political or politically-correct or "woke". However, it's hard for me to think Pakistanis are not being demonised simply because they are "other".

I am 100% certain that this has happened. Rape is rape. Men are monsters. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the "gang" part. Only one man is responsible for any rape.

It is estimated that these represent 15% (?) of rapes in the UK. Why is there not "faux outrage" over the other 85% of rapes done by Brit blokes?

I have not seen anywhere that any Pakistani women have contributed any testimony to this phenomenon. Surely, rape is not okay for them. All the rapists have mothers and sisters and wives. Why is nobody seeking their opinion. And, honestly, what to do about it.

Police have always had difficulty with rape cases, even now that there are female officers, rape counselors aso. Like it or not, the go-to public opinion is still that she's a slut, she led them on, she's had many men aso.

All that comes from not taking women seriously in the first place. They're the weaker sex, etc. And we all know that there are women who make up stories about sexual assault to punish a man. So this muddies the waters further for the police.

It's being said that police have swept these rapes under the carpet for years because they're afraid of the consequences of being labeled 'racist'. That's likely so.

But to make this serious and terrible situation all about immigrants--make no mistake, that is a great part of many people's agenda--is nothing short of racism.

5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

For all rape gang deniers who even stalk these threads dismissing Rupert Lowe's report.

Solicitor David Greenwood presented a dossier suggesting that over 72,000 children may have been at risk of exploitation across the "Bradford" District between 1996 and 2025.

I was unable to locate this dossier on the website of Mr. Greenwood's firm. I have sent an email asking for a link. Do you have one?

5 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

Maybe this will make this repellent practice less hard to swallow:

British-Pakistani researchers say 84% of grooming gang members are Asian: "It's very important we talk about it"

The report’s co-author, Haras Rafiq, is from Rochdale, where 19 British-Pakistani men were jailed between 2012 and 2015 after a grooming ring thought to have abused at least 47 girls was uncovered.

Mr Rafiq told Sky News: “I’m from the heart of where one of the biggest high-profile cases has happened over the last few years, and I’m saying it’s very important that we do talk about it because the problem won’t go away.

“We didn’t want there to be a pattern of people from our ethnic demographic carrying out these attacks. But unfortunately we were proven wrong.”

“British white men they tend to work individually. They tend to work online where they groom and they are the majority of perpetrators.

“When it comes to Asian men or Pakistani men they tend to do it in groups.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/quilliam-grooming-gangs-report-asian-abuse-rotherham-rochdale-newcastle-a8101941.html

I’m sure you know “Asia” is a continent comprising 48 countries. Let’s get specific here because, in the UK, “Asian” is a euphemism for Pakistani.

Perhaps the Lowe and Casey reports and the Greenwood dossier will enlighten me how “rings” “gangs”"groups” actually function. I’m not exactly a doubter but I want to know how such a gang rapes one girl.

I have read The Independent article claiming 84% of “grooming gang offences”. Now, how exactly are such offences specified in the criminal code? What are the specific charges? What lengths of sentences result? I am sure you know "rock spiders" are not treated kindly in prison...in any country.

And what drives these gangs? Is it a pile-on effect where others draw confidence from a group which has already been successful in rape?

And why do these men, Pakistani or otherwise, need to rape? Don’t they have wives and girlfriends, work, family life? All rapes are crimes of violence moreso than sex. Are these men asserting their dominance by raping white girls, insecurity about their skin colour?

The article sort of trails off. In 2011, all white, in 2012—just the next year—75% “Asian” grooming gangs. No link to the 2012 inquiry by the Office of the Children’s Commissioner. If you have a link, I’d like to read it. TIA!

That means, “grooming gangs’ were not identified in 2011, therefore all instances were simply considered child-rape. But in 2012, we don’t hear what the actual offences are in law. And, as noted, too small a sample size.

I'm not for absolving guilt. But I don't think anyone should simply adopt the dominant paradigm because everybody else is onboard. And, OMG, think of the children!

There's little point bothering to take time and effort posting videos on this subject as the deniers will just do that. In there eyes its all fake news, but i will leave you to dwell or den'y this.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I was unable to locate this dossier on the website of Mr. Greenwood's firm. I have sent an email asking for a link. Do you have one?

Yep🤔

Warning over 72,000 children at risk in Bradford Grooming Scandal | Switalskis

Not the dossier, just a press release.

11 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I have both the Lowe and the Casey reports. I will read them in due course and perhaps comment further if they generate any insights.

My "outrage" is not political or politically-correct or "woke". However, it's hard for me to think Pakistanis are not being demonised simply because they are "other".

I am 100% certain that this has happened. Rape is rape. Men are monsters.

It is estimated that these represent 15% (?) of rapes in the UK. Why is there not "faux outrage" over the other 85% of rapes done by Brit blokes?

I have not seen anywhere that any Pakistani women have contributed any testimony to this phenomenon. Surely, rape is not okay for them. All the rapists have mothers and sisters and wives. Why is nobody seeking their opinion. And, honestly, what to do about it.

Police have always had difficulty with rape cases, even now that there are female officers, rape counselors aso. Like it or not, the go-to public opinion is still that she's a slut, she led them on, she's had many men aso.

All that comes from not taking women seriously in the first place. They're the weaker sex, etc. And we all know that there are women who make up stories about sexual assault to punish a man. So this muddies the waters further for the police.

It's being said that police have swept these rapes under the carpet for years because they're afraid of the consequences of being labeled 'racist'. That's likely so.

But to make this serious and terrible situation all about immigrants--make no mistake, that is a great part of many people's agenda--is nothing short of racism.

At least you admit that you are commenting without having read the reports. I give you credit for that.

The problem is not "all immigrants". It is specific to a specific demographic, and it is a proven, demonstrable demographic.

11 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the "gang" part. Only one man is responsible for any rape.

Even if you do not wish to accept some of the Lowe report conclusions, the government's own multiple reports identified that there were gang rapes and that vulnerable minor were passed from man to man for sexual abuse. This is what a rape gang does,

A whole bunch of Epsteins Weinsteins and a outsider Andy , Bill, Donald and many more in the group ?

On 6/21/2026 at 12:12 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

It also needs be mentioned that India, which included Bangladesh and Pakistan, was the Crown Jewel of the British Empire for 200 years. The wealth of empire help fund the Industrial Revolution in England. A lot of that wealth came from opium: 2500 metric tons a year.

The UK is reaping the fruits of Empire, in all sorts of bad...and good...ways.

That's a popular claim, but it isn't true to history.

Britain's Industrial Revolution was driven primarily by coal, technology, finance and manufacturing, not colonial plunder alone.

On 6/21/2026 at 1:29 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

The ‘Rape Gang Report’ sponsored by Restore Britain MP Rupert Lowe, estimates that at least 250,000 mainly White British girls had been victimized nationwide since the 1950s.

Now, we all know what Restore Britain is all about—racism, Tommy Robinson style.

And then we have Russia Today, surely a bastion of free reportage. Hm, what might be Russia’s agenda for the United Kingdom, well, other than fomenting discontent?

Let’s take 1955 as an arbitrary start year. That’s 71 years ago. Let’s do the math, that's ~3,500 rapes a year to 2026. Sorry, but the sexual assault statistics simply don’t support that figure.

There were ~12,500 Pakistani male immigrant to the UK in the decade up to 1960. No gender breakdown is available but a total of ~67,000 immigrated up to 1970. From 1971 to 1980, there were ~77k Pakistani men in the UK. ~80k total to 1990.

Okay, I’m bored looking this up. Obviously, Pakistani families have had British children, resulting in 1.6M to 1.8M people of Pakistani heritage in the UK today. How many of these Pakistani men are children under 18? How many are infants? The statistics don’t disclose that.

In 2026, ~56,000 immigrated from Pakistan. And 70k left the UK for elsewhere.

I’m going to go with “The Rape Gang Inquiry Report lies to support a racist agenda, the Dishonourable Rupert Lowe’s anti-immigrant agenda. You can’t fool the numbers. This is nothing more than a shameful ploy to fool the gullible.

Are you going to tell me that the 24,000 people who crowd-funded £500,000 did not have a racist agenda???

Doesn’t Restore Britain have the same sort of ring as Make America Great Again? Umm, white power?

Calling the inquiry “racist” doesn't answer the evidence.

The courts have repeatedly convicted predominantly Pakistani-heritage grooming gangs in towns across the UK.

The main city most of them come from is Mirpur, in Pakistani administered Kashmir.

That is a matter of public record, not political opinion.

If the figures in the report are wrong, challenge them with evidence.

But dismissing the inquiry because of who funded it is an ad hominem argument, not a rebuttal.

The victims deserve the truth, not political point-scoring.

I have no doubt you don't come from Rotherham, Sheffield, Bradford, Keighley or Halifax, just the same as the left wing journalists whom try to play down Pakistani Muslim involvement. What's astonishing, is the lack of condemnation from the Pakistani community.

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I’m sure you know “Asia” is a continent comprising 48 countries. Let’s get specific here because, in the UK, “Asian” is a euphemism for Pakistani.

Perhaps the Lowe and Casey reports and the Greenwood dossier will enlighten me how “rings” “gangs”"groups” actually function. I’m not exactly a doubter but I want to know how such a gang rapes one girl.

I have read The Independent article claiming 84% of “grooming gang offences”. Now, how exactly are such offences specified in the criminal code? What are the specific charges? What lengths of sentences result? I am sure you know "rock spiders" are not treated kindly in prison...in any country.

And what drives these gangs? Is it a pile-on effect where others draw confidence from a group which has already been successful in rape?

And why do these men, Pakistani or otherwise, need to rape? Don’t they have wives and girlfriends, work, family life? All rapes are crimes of violence moreso than sex. Are these men asserting their dominance by raping white girls, insecurity about their skin colour?

The article sort of trails off. In 2011, all white, in 2012—just the next year—75% “Asian” grooming gangs. No link to the 2012 inquiry by the Office of the Children’s Commissioner. If you have a link, I’d like to read it. TIA!

That means, “grooming gangs’ were not identified in 2011, therefore all instances were simply considered child-rape. But in 2012, we don’t hear what the actual offences are in law. And, as noted, too small a sample size.

I'm not for absolving guilt. But I don't think anyone should simply adopt the dominant paradigm because everybody else is onboard. And, OMG, think of the children!

You are absolving guilt with your constant defending of rape gangs and watering down independent conclusions and using the Race card.

You then appear to be deliberately obtuse when faced with facts.

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Only one man is responsible for any rape.

I have not seen anywhere that any Pakistani women have contributed any testimony to this phenomenon. Surely, rape is not okay for them. All the rapists have mothers and sisters and wives. Why is nobody seeking their opinion. And, honestly, what to do about it.

It's being said that police have swept these rapes under the carpet for years because they're afraid of the consequences of being labeled 'racist'. That's likely so.

But to make this serious and terrible situation all about immigrants--make no mistake, that is a great part of many people's agenda--is nothing short of racism.

When a girl is passed from one to another, it's gang rape. Do you have a problem understanding the English terminology?

You haven't seen any testimony from Pakistani women? How stupid are you? Do you think they would dare?

You are either a fool or incredibly naive and shouldn't be posting, unless your sole objective is to cause upset, bait and goad other posters into responding to your blinkered vision.

On 6/21/2026 at 8:10 AM, visalady said:

It's 100% due to islam, Pakistani Christians are not involved just muslims, the culture IS the religion and none of it is good for girls and women. What moderates believe is irrelevent and few have spoken out against this atrocity. Islam is incompatible with human rights, freedom and civilisation.

My Management Consultance was contacted to go to Pakistan and present several lectures about aspects of the value of End Results of documented jobs, all levels. Twenty five participants in each lecture.

Respected assessment methodology does exist and is not difficult to understand, but best explained in very full detail to ensure full comprehenion and value.

Came the morning of the first lecture I was abruptly interupted / confronted by a just arrived participant who abruptly asked 'are you christian or what'.

I politely indicated that I was not going to entertain his question. He retorted 'well is the class already divided into 2 groups, christians and non christians.

I again politely indicated that I was not going to entertain his question.

The questioner then sat in the left side chair on the left side of the first row but before doing so asked the hotel staff to create an aisle down the middle of the 4 rows.

As others arrived none asked any questions about christian.

On 6/21/2026 at 5:53 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

BS. Who cares? Do you care if a hard-working <illegal> family sending their kids to school every day lives next to you. And if you do, why? Sounds to me like they're a credit to the community.

People who assimilate into the society and work etc., no I have no problem with them. The freeloaders are the ones I have an issue with including the British free loaders.

On 6/21/2026 at 11:21 PM, Priorexpat said:

Not clear how any girl/woman would ever allow themselves to be "groomed/courted" by the looks of those guys. Those are some ugly mugs.

You are assuming the girls knew what was going on. Reports would tend to indicate other wise. Drugs, alcohol and threats were used.

12 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

At least you admit that you are commenting without having read the reports. I give you credit for that.

The problem is not "all immigrants". It is specific to a specific demographic, and it is a proven, demonstrable demographic.

Even if you do not wish to accept some of the Lowe report conclusions, the government's own multiple reports identified that there were gang rapes and that vulnerable minor were passed from man to man for sexual abuse. This is what a rape gang does,

I know you to be a defender of Israel, Patong. Nobody knows how to wear the other shoe. Imagine it were Jews being so accused as a group just because they were Jews..

If these men are guilty, convict them, jail them, hang them, whatever. But this sort of reporting leads to a racist backlash against the entire Pakistani community. Who, I assume, are hard-working, family people with contributions to society. I actually don't think it's just the reportage or the manner of reportage.

The whole ethnic identification aspect poisons the reportage from the start. As I read it, it seems to raise those white, paedophile groomers acting alone to be a cut above those darkie rape gangs. I'm sure you know how it works, another sort of race-based antisemitism.

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

That's a popular claim, but it isn't true to history.

Britain's Industrial Revolution was driven primarily by coal, technology, finance and manufacturing, not colonial plunder alone.

Perhaps I've been misled. But the wealth of Empire generated by foreign countries is indisputable no matter what the money was used for.

And we whites tend to grade them like eggs. White Rhodesian immigrants are okay, as are white South Africans. Hong Kongers next, hard-working, those Chinks, open restaurants, too. And at the bottom of the barrel we find Pakistanis, somehow mixed up with Black folk.

"OMG, their food stinks!" "They smell different" "What's with the clothes" "They eat with their hands!" "Beards are dirty!" "There goes the neighbourhood"

We don't just do that to rapists. We do that to all in their community.

If these were Kensington, Chelsea and Westminster girls being raped, this sh*t would stop.

It's the same in the US.

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Calling the inquiry “racist” doesn't answer the evidence.

The courts have repeatedly convicted predominantly Pakistani-heritage grooming gangs in towns across the UK.

The main city most of them come from is Mirpur, in Pakistani administered Kashmir.

That is a matter of public record, not political opinion.

If the figures in the report are wrong, challenge them with evidence.

But dismissing the inquiry because of who funded it is an ad hominem argument, not a rebuttal.

The victims deserve the truth, not political point-scoring.

I have no doubt you don't come from Rotherham, Sheffield, Bradford, Keighley or Halifax, just the same as the left wing journalists whom try to play down Pakistani Muslim involvement. What's astonishing, is the lack of condemnation from the Pakistani community.

As one who has not yet read the reports and intends to, this new information is startingly interesting!

Mirpur in occupied Kashmir is called “Little England”. All Mirpur seems to be known for is its “massive British-Pakistani diaspora”! All the new Brits send remittances home to Pakistan.

Urdu is primarily used in contiguous Pakistan along with a smattering of others, Punjabi or Pashto, for example.

However, Mirpur speaks Mirpuri, aka Pahari-Pothwari, largely unintelligible to other Pakistani language groups.

As you can see, we have not just Pakistanis but a distinct subset of Pakistanis.

So what makes Mirpuris rapists? That's the investigation where the truth will start of come out. Maybe we can even get to to root of this cultural abomination.

I hope I did not dismiss crowdfunded studies completely. However, the very nature of crowdfunding is that the funding comes from people who are seeking one result, who all believe the same thing. That makes it suspect in terms of peer review.

Hm. “Lack of condemnation from the Pakistani community.” Does that mean that no Pakistani pols or lawyers or clerics or community leaders have not denounced the rapists? Honest question, I don’t know the answer.

But, no matter what they say, you and I both know Whiteys will blame Pakistanis as a whole.

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

When a girl is passed from one to another, it's gang rape. Do you have a problem understanding the English terminology?

You haven't seen any testimony from Pakistani women? How stupid are you? Do you think they would dare?

You are either a fool or incredibly naive and shouldn't be posting, unless your sole objective is to cause upset, bait and goad other posters into responding to your blinkered vision.

My understanding of gang rape is that the men rape serially in a single perhaps repeated event. Not by one man and later passed to another. That's not gang rape. Just so we're on the same page with terminology.

It is complete nonsense to think that Pakistani women would not speak out. Perhaps new immigrants but women who have been born and educated in the UK will definitely speak out. Do we have evidence of that?

You may think I have "blinkered vision" but what I'm after is a comprehensive understanding of what's going on, not to blame or whitewash anybody. Rape is perhaps the most terrible crime there is. At least with murder, there's an end to the torture.

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

My Management Consultance was contacted to go to Pakistan and present several lectures about aspects of the value of End Results of documented jobs, all levels. Twenty five participants in each lecture.

Respected assessment methodology does exist and is not difficult to understand, but best explained in very full detail to ensure full comprehenion and value.

Came the morning of the first lecture I was abruptly interupted / confronted by a just arrived participant who abruptly asked 'are you christian or what'.

I politely indicated that I was not going to entertain his question. He retorted 'well is the class already divided into 2 groups, christians and non christians.

I again politely indicated that I was not going to entertain his question.

The questioner then sat in the left side chair on the left side of the first row but before doing so asked the hotel staff to create an aisle down the middle of the 4 rows.

As others arrived none asked any questions about christian.

So you, as a white foreigner, were targeted by a Pakistani racist. Happens anywhere. So, are you Xian? (hehe)

22 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Yep🤔

Warning over 72,000 children at risk in Bradford Grooming Scandal | Switalskis

The report for all apologists to mull over

Rape Gang Inquiry Report.

218 pages in pdf so can't post here follow Rupert Lowe MP on X'

Edited June 23Jun 23 by Tidal wave

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

People who assimilate into the society and work etc., no I have no problem with them. The freeloaders are the ones I have an issue with including the British free loaders.

"Freeloading" can be proven by a paper trail. If someone is taking welfare, food stamps, unemployment benefits aso, that's a trail. Although I can't see how any "illegal" immigrant could do so.

The UK is a different story which I don't know as much about. Is NHS available to UK illegal immigrants? On what basis is free housing and maintenance provided to illegal immigrants and for how long? Are they allowed to work? After a decision on their case--how long does that take?--are they deported or self-deport if refused?

A lot of people think <illegal> immigrants are takers. In the US, I think they're a net benefit to society and don't take any opportunities away from Americans.

I don't know how to solve the EU/UK problem of over-immigration. This occurred primarily because Western countries are basically humanitarion--as it should be. Hindsight says the wave should never have been permitted. Too late for that.

As I see it, the only possible solution is to find work for all these immigrants, to contribute. That could be unrealistic when locals don't have jobs.

4 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

The report for all apologists to mull over

Rape Gang Inquiry Report.docx

That's the Lowe report. Link already posted.