3 minutes ago, kenconagasaki said:

Visa stamp shows " Thai wife " ?

Perhaps he could post a screenshot

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Perhaps he could post a screenshot

I'd love to see the screenshot too.

21 minutes ago, Salarb said:

Previously, I used the Thai Visa Center agency, but then I changed to a solo agent

Thai Visa Center or @ThaiVisaCentre

ThaiVisaCentre can outline your options.

5 minutes ago, connda said:

No it wasn't a "Marriage Visa." There is no "Marriage Visa." Your underlying visa is probably a Non-O or a Non-B. You should understand the process correctly, and then you'd know that you don't need an agent unless you are in a big city and want to bypass the crowds and be represented by an agent who knows the IOs. I used to use one in Chiang Mai because CM Immigration was a real dog & pony show before they got the new offices. I left before they were built. If you are in a sub-district that isn't large or openly hostile to foreigners, then submitting the paperwork is not that difficult.

Here is a slightly dated by one of our previous moderator, Ubon Joe (RIP). Different offices may add additional requirements. It's not that difficult. If you take the time to read through some of the OPs were members have outlined their experiences you can be prepared. Agent or not, your still going to do the majority of the footwork.

Thank you so much for the clarification. Really helpful. And RIP to Joe as well. I'm living literally in the center of Bangkok by the Chao Phraya River, so it's legally CW office territory. I've been providing those documents to the agent for the past 5 years (just without the house map). I can provide all of that now. But since my previous visas were from other cities, and people have pointed out that CW doesn't like agent-processed visas, they will definitely make it an issue and force me to leave to get a new Non-O visa based on the comments...

11 minutes ago, connda said:

I'd love to see the screenshot too.

here it is sorry had to use paint on the code of my visa

38 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Extension based on marriage is sent to divisional head quarters.

For those extensions agents don't cover the financials.

Yes they do.

A little bit less than 40k baht.

12 month Non O extension based on marriage. Not child, not retirement. No funds required. A number of agents offer this.

The thread starter, you need to leave the country and get a fresh visa and start the process from scratch with CW, or use an agent again.

2 minutes ago, Packer said:

Yes they do.

A little bit less than 40k baht.

12 month Non O extension based on marriage. Not child, not retirement. No funds required. A number of agents offer this.

The thread starter, you need to leave the country and get a fresh visa and start the process from scratch with CW, or use an agent again.

Yeah, it seems that's the only viable option based on the comments. I was trying to avoid that and renew it directly here...

20 minutes ago, Packer said:

12 month Non O extension based on marriage. Not child, not retirement. No funds required. A number of agents offer this

Throw some names out.

Not stating it's not possible.

Would need compelling reason to opt for that.

Unless someone is under 50 or wants to obtain work permit then extensions retirement is the obvious best option..

56 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Throw some names out.

Not stating it's not possible.

I don't think it's fair to post the names on the web board.

There were 2 others, around the same price, husband and Thai wife needing to go to some far away rural IO to get the 12 month Thai wife marriage extension.

It was for my autistic brother that messed up his funds and he got it sorted in Bangkok.

7 minutes ago, Packer said:

I don't think it's fair to post the names on the web board.

AKA... Vague nonsense. Yes it's possible however what was OP motive.

Surely over 50. Could have done extensions based on over 50 for ~ 17k.

Frankly find this a nonsense thread.

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

AKA... Vague nonsense. Yes it's possible however what was OP motive.

Surely over 50. Could have done extensions based on over 50 for ~ 17k.

Frankly find this a nonsense thread.

Im not 50. thats why Im using the marriage visa instead of retirement. Forgot to mention.

1 hour ago, Salarb said:

Yeah, it seems that's the only viable option based on the comments. I was trying to avoid that and renew it directly here...

The bottom line is that there is, in your case, a slate which needs to be wiped clean in IMM's eyes. And that can only be achieved by exiting the country for a fresh non-O visa.

1 minute ago, Salarb said:

Im not 50. thats why Im using the marriage visa instead of retirement. Forgot to mention.

Gee whiz. Big oversight.

So if you currently under 50 then frankly I would continue with use of agent.

Not mean to be rude but from your posts you seem to have zero idea.

Going to CW will be waste of time.

I'm not even sure if you could obtain 60 day extension "to visit wife" as your history is so dodgy

The visa experts like Upnotover have already suggested bullet proof option.

Exit Thailand without reentry permit and obtain eVisa outside of Thailand or just bounce and change from visa exempt entry to Non O marriage.

Read posts about where you live.

Wife family location is irrelevant.

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Gee whiz. Big oversight.

So if you currently under 50 then frankly I would continue with use of agent.

Not mean to be rude but from your posts you seem to have zero idea.

Going to CW will be waste of time.

I'm not even sure if you could obtain 60 day extension "to visit wife" as your history is so dodgy

The visa experts like Upnotover have already suggested bullet proof option.

Exit Thailand without reentry permit and obtain eVisa outside of Thailand or just bounce and change from visa exempt entry to Non O marriage.

Read posts about where you live.

Wife family location is irrelevant.

Thank you. Yeah, I wasn't really keen on dealing with visa stuff, which is why I've always used agents up until now, even before my marriage. I'll update this thread later with what I eventually do, so people can find it in the future if they are in a similar situation. Cheers!

6 minutes ago, Salarb said:

I'll update this thread later with what I eventually do, so people can find it in the future if they are in a similar situation

Love the positive attitude.

I posted couple of gut punches and you still did positive emoji.

Please update future result.

It will be very helpful.

Bit left field but suggest you contact @ThaiVisaCentre to consider options.

With 50 days remaining on permission of stay you have time.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

AKA... Vague nonsense. Yes it's possible

Yes.

It is 100% possible to get a 12 month extension based on marriage without funds using an agent. They charge less than 40,000thb for the 12 month extension and both the husband and wife are required to attend the immigration office, often quite far away from Bangkok.

12 month marriage extension. No funds needed. 🙂

2 hours ago, Packer said:

It is 100% possible to get a 12 month extension based on marriage without funds using an agent.

Name an agent and immigration office. Not difficult

@Salarb It seems like you're not wanting to accept the answers/advice people are giving you. ..

The officers at Chaengwattana will be less than thrilled to have you showing up with out of province extensions, especially since you seem to not have a TM30 filed here and haven't been doing a 90 day reports in Bangkok

As people said your best option(s) are

Exit the country to get OFF this train wreck of b/s out of province extensions

come back in free stamp and then apply for the 90 day Non-O visa at Chaengwattana Immigrations Section C-1 for 2000baht

OR

While you're out of the country apply online thru the thai consulate of the country you go to (Lao or Vietnam are suggested) and get the 90 day Non-O visa based on marriage thru the eVisa online system

You need to "break the chain" of these agent gotten out of province extensions because they're going to do nothing but cause you grief if you decide to "push your own paper" <- apply for your extension on your own at Chaengwattana..

You do have valid extension stamps in your passport but you're not gonna get around the fact you didn't live in the province where it was issued, you didn't go to the immigration office that issued it, you didn't sit in front of the officer when you applied AND most importantly you didn't meet the proof of funds requirements.

I mean if you're hellbent on pushing your own paper, slog on out to Chaengwattana, go to section L-1, to the first cubby on the right that says "Document Check" and ask the officer there when you get the hand out listing the requirements. Show her your passport and see what they say..

Take my word for it, the easy path is breaking the chain, getting a new Non-O (either in our out of the country) and starting over from scratch this time above the table NOT under it like you have done for the last 5 years

Not trying to 'break your balls' with my comments, just trying to get you to see what's involved if you try to push your own paper..

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Name an agent and immigration office. Not difficult

I named one of the immigration offices. Look up at the screen shot.

With Thailand's computer crime laws I see no reason to post the company names on a public web board that has sponsorship from less helpful competitors. 🙂

Your best solution is to leave the country.

Come back in and apply for a Non O.

Not the Non OA Retirement because of the insurance clause.

You still need the 800,000 baht in the bank.

I have done it myself after using a agent.

Goodluck

@Deerculler you appear to be a bit confused...

I thought the op stated that he was not 50, which would rule out him getting the non-o based on retirement.

There's no need to mention an OA because that can only be gotten in the country of passport origin or a country where you hold legal permanent residence.

You are correct and so far as the best course of action would be to get a brand new 90-day non-o visa, one based on marriage to a Thai national.

Purely out of curiousity, would not previous visa history be stored against passport and other information ?

The information is still in the passport if the "capable officer" decides to make it contentious. I guess a new clean application would be far less grief than applying for an extension of a vsa of dubious origin !

2 hours ago, kenconagasaki said:

Purely out of curiosity, would not previous visa history be stored against passport and other information ?

Yep, all entry/visa/extension history is available to the officer when you go for an extension
BUT
The immigration officers know all too well that people who want to "push their own paper" need to exit/re-enter (wiping the slate clean from the agent stamps) and start over.

The O/P won't have any issue when they decide to go "above the table" for their visa/extension

25 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

Yep, all entry/visa/extension history is available to the officer when you go for an extension
BUT
The immigration officers know all too well that people who want to "push their own paper" need to exit/re-enter (wiping the slate clean from the agent stamps) and start over.

The O/P won't have any issue when they decide to go "above the table" for their visa/extension

Tod,

Just out of curiosity, I assume most, if not all, IM officers know many extensions are being approved with short-term agent funding. Do you think there is some unwritten or written IM rule that allows agents to fund these extensions? If so, why do you think that is? It certainly seems to be an accepted practice. Do you think it happens in all districts, even CW in Bangkok? I always wanted to ask. If you think my questions are inappropriate, just delete my post. Thank you...

What i can say is, it can be done in Bangkok using a full service agent, but is costs more than using a rural location.

6 minutes ago, JohnnyBD said:

Do you think it happens in all districts, even CW in Bangkok? I always wanted to ask. If you think my questions are inappropriate, just delete my post.

Tod will answer.

The OP is good example. He has been obtaining extensions using agent without meeting financials.

Also stamps obtained in immigration office where he is not living.

CW would not process his next DIY extension even with required seasoned funds in bank.

Almost certainly need to start over.

I would be inclined to obtain eVisa by exiting Thailand. OR

Depending on age he could continue with what he is doing with agent and switch to based on retirement when turns 50.

The annual extensions retirement will be lot less baht.

13 minutes ago, JohnnyBD said:

Do you think there is some unwritten or written IM rule that allows agents to fund these extensions? If so, why do you think that is?

ORDER OF THE IMMIGRATION BUREAU

No. 327/2557

Subject: Criteria and Conditions for Consideration of an Alien’s Application

for a Temporary Stay in the Kingdom of Thailand

5. In the case where an alien applicant does not meet the full qualifications stipulated by the criteria herein or in other cases not specified in this Order but a competent officer equivalent to or higher than inspector is of the opinion that the alien has legitimate reason for staying in the Kingdom of Thailand, the application shall be forwarded to the Commander of the Royal Thai Police or an authorized

competent officer for further consideration of the alien's application.

NB What is legitimate reason? What've you got.

Edited June 26Jun 26 by JerryM