3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And does anyone believe the IDF did not rape and pillage the Palestinians in Gaza?

There is hardly anything to rape nor pillage in Gaza, hence the cleaning special op.

But the question you should have asked is: who raped first, and who would have raped again if Israel wasn't implementing a legitimate solution.

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

@Nick Carter icp FFS, Nick, what the F is wrong with you?!? “Internal searches for explosives and weapons” FFS!

Nothing is wrong with me .

Palestinians regard strip searches as sexual assault and rape .

Even going into Western jails ALL bodily cavities are searched for weapons, phones , drugs and anything else they shouldn't have .

11 minutes ago, placnx said:

This report conveniently appears as the hanging law in the Israeli parliament just passed. Next up is the show trials of Palestinians alleged to have participated in the 7 October attack.

Or the actual terrorists., rapists ,baby killers , war criminals who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity being bought to justice and hung if found to be guilty .

66th Anniversary of Mossad's Capture of Adolf Eichmann -

Iran Regime, Hamas, Hezbollah Members Are Next!

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Or the actual terrorists., rapists ,baby killers , war criminals who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity being bought to justice and hung if found to be guilty

Equally to soldiers and colonists. Violence is violence.

The first Palestinian hanged, the world will turn its back on Israel for good.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

"Raped and sexually" assaulted does actually mean they were searched for explosives and weapons .

Internal searches on prisoner's are common in many Countries

The case of Isreali prison guards caught on video raping a Palestinian prisoner that caused their arrest and a huge furor on the far right seems to have gone dormant. Very few cases of abuse ever get investigated even though the IDF promises to do so. A prime example is the IDF murder of the well-known Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. Even the Biden government did nothing despite entreaties from her family.

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The first Palestinian hanged, the world will turn its back on Israel for good.

OMG, MORE withdrawals from the Eurovision song contest ?🙂

1 minute ago, placnx said:

The case of Isreali prison guards caught on video raping a Palestinian prisoner that caused their arrest and a huge furor on the far right seems to have gone dormant.

Theres a thread about that very subject, can continue the discussion there .

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Or the actual terrorists., rapists ,baby killers , war criminals who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity being bought to justice and hung if found to be guilty .

66th Anniversary of Mossad's Capture of Adolf Eichmann -

Iran Regime, Hamas, Hezbollah Members Are Next!

Up to now only two people have been hanged in Israel's history. One was Eichman, who was a major figure in the Holocaust. Now we must wait to see whether the hanging law is employed judiciously. Otherwise, Netanyahu/Ben Gvir/Smotrich may end up figuratively hanging Israel.

14 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The first Palestinian hanged, the world will turn its back on Israel for good.

Why would the World support Hamas terrorists , rapists and baby killers ?

Why would the World oppose them being bought to justice for their crimes ?

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

No.That's how the dismissal of the wrongdoing is done, by equating a planned intentional massacre, sexual abuse , torture and exploitation with infrequent incidents of wrongdoing. One group set out on October 7 to do evil. The other group responded as a matter of defense and impressing on the perpetrators that the attacks would carry a heavy cost so as to discourage repeat events.

The problem people like you have when you seek to equate wrongful acts is that you ignore that one group has refused to accept responsibility for anything and the other does accept responsibility when it does something wrong. Despite the mass protests in the west by Hamas supporters and their enablers the Arab world neither supported the Hamas attack nor the Gazans following October 7. The Egyptians kept their border closed, and the Jordanians and Saudis looked the other way. Even the Palestinian Authority doesn't really care about the Gazans now.

The ICJ is addressing the disproportional, genocidal so-called self defense attack on Gaza.

There is a chasm between the leadership and the people in Arab and Islamic countries regarding Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The behavior of the elite is conditioned by their need for US support, whether financial or sales of weapons. Privately, what elites think may be quite different than what they do or say. They are constrained by the all-powerful Zionist lobby in the US and UK. Even so, after 7 October MBS and other Saudis have made it clear that normailization is off the table until the Palestinian issue is settled.

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why would the World support Hamas terrorists , rapists and baby killers ?

Why would the World oppose them being bought to justice for their crimes ?

Couldn't agree more. Standing beside IDF soldiers, commanders, prison guards and colonists being subject to equal penalties.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

So these "Ashkenazi zionists" have no right to return to Judea, the land that gave then their culture and their collective name. Ok. How thoughtful of you. How about the Zionists who were there all along, or the descendants of the million or so Zionists who were expelled from Arab countries and suffered mass murder and the theft of all their assets during their expulsions?

Do you even know anything about the Arabs and their religion, including the Quran? The book does not use the term Jew. It calls Jews, Sūrah Banī Isrāʾīl - The Children of Israel. the Quran does not mention Palestinians once. They do not exist in the Quran. On the other hand, the Quran acknowledges the existence of Israel 40+ times. Have a look at the passage Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21) يَٰقَوۡمِ ٱدۡخُلُواْ ٱلۡأَرۡضَ ٱلۡمُقَدَّسَةَ ٱلَّتِي كَتَبَ ٱللَّهُ لَكُمۡ وَلَا تَرۡتَدُّواْ عَلَىٰٓ أَدۡبَارِكُمۡ فَتَنقَلِبُواْ خَٰسِرِينَ

This is translated as "My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers." or "O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers" This is interpreted by Islamic scholars to say that the Israelites were ordered after their exodus from slavery in Egypt, to go back to their land that is now known as Israel, the homeland of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

There were European Zionists arriving around 1880. They bought land from absentee Trukish landowners and turned around and expelled the Palestinian tenant farmers. The Jews who were there before these Zionists have nothing to do with the Europeans arriving in the colonial era.

What is heartening on this subject is the amount of members who condemn The Palestinians and Hamas.

All I ever see on msm are blue haired freaks wearing tea-towels walking the streets of major cities protesting about “free Palestine “.

3 hours ago, Summerinsiam said:

No one is denying that these were heinous acts. However, they did not occur in a vacuum, but were a consequence of Israeli actions that are well known. Yon cannot just focus on Palestinians without taking into account the motivations for the attack. While systematic sexual violence is abhorrent, it is worth mentioning that it has been documented by objective observers to occur every day in Israeli prisons.

More BS for the gullible.

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

So these "Ashkenazi zionists" have no right to return to Judea, the land that gave then their culture and their collective name. Ok. How thoughtful of you. How about the Zionists who were there all along, or the descendants of the million or so Zionists who were expelled from Arab countries and suffered mass murder and the theft of all their assets during their expulsions?

Do you even know anything about the Arabs and their religion, including the Quran? The book does not use the term Jew. It calls Jews, Sūrah Banī Isrāʾīl - The Children of Israel. the Quran does not mention Palestinians once. They do not exist in the Quran. On the other hand, the Quran acknowledges the existence of Israel 40+ times. Have a look at the passage Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21) يَٰقَوۡمِ ٱدۡخُلُواْ ٱلۡأَرۡضَ ٱلۡمُقَدَّسَةَ ٱلَّتِي كَتَبَ ٱللَّهُ لَكُمۡ وَلَا تَرۡتَدُّواْ عَلَىٰٓ أَدۡبَارِكُمۡ فَتَنقَلِبُواْ خَٰسِرِينَ

This is translated as "My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers." or "O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers" This is interpreted by Islamic scholars to say that the Israelites were ordered after their exodus from slavery in Egypt, to go back to their land that is now known as Israel, the homeland of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Your respomse is in reality a non-response, since you have chosen not to address the points raised, but instead go off on a red herring.

Howver I shall briefly correct the record on one of the points you raise.

The Jews who had been living peacefully for centuries amongst an Arab majority in Palestine can in no way be described as "Zionists". The term 'Zionist' is not synonimous with 'Jew'. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews, if one includes the so-called 'Christian Zionists'. To this day, many Mizrahi Orthodox Jews are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.

According to recent genetic studies, the Palestinian 'Arabs', both Muslim and Christian, are shown to be more closely related to the Biblical inhabitants of Israel than are the Ashkenazi Jews, whose female genetic heritage in particular shows considerable deviation, suggesting mixed marriages of Jewish men with non-Jewish women.

You seem to be ignorant of the causes (plural) behind the reluctant emigration of many Jewish people from their Arab homelands to the then-nascent state of Israel. This was mainly the result of deliberate Israeli tactics. (Before being booted out, Nazi envoys had achieved limited success in fostering hatred of some Iraqi soldiers for Jews).

To understand the nature of the tactics used by the Zionist state one has only to point to the method used to clinch the Maidan coup in Kiev: concealed snipers fired on both demonstrators and police. The Israelis used explosives in preference to small arms. Fear was stirred up amongst Jews and hatred amongst a minority of Arabs. Many more Jews might have been killed had they not been protected by their Arab neighbours amongst whom they had lived all their lives. Educated Jews often occupied important and respected positions. As had been common for centuries throughout the Muslim world, prior to the arrival of Zionism.

Few Jews now live in Arab countries, although there is still a substantial community in Islamic Iran, which is essentially an Aryan not Arab nation, although multi-ethnic. The Iranian state supports the Jewish religion. A synagogue in Tehran was recently obliterated by a targeted Israeli air-strike.

Hamas is a rock bottom terrorist group funded by Iran. And many muslims in Gaza support them or shot if they don't?

One thing the muslims are good at is brain washing via the internet. And of course the net zombies walking around would believe the

moon is made if cheese if you told them enough times. I am a person who has made a living for years betting on odds and I wouldn't bet a plug nickel on trusting or believing muslims.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Desperately trying to turn the topic away from confirmed Palestinians atrocities and onto alleged Israeli atrocities

The truth can be a terrible thing, when it disrupts your highly coveted political narrative.

26 minutes ago, ericbj said:

A synagogue in Tehran was recently obliterated by a targeted Israeli air-strike.

Yes a fact 'conveniently' not widely reported on and its not the first time

there is long history of this for anyone wanting to 'do their own research'

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Although its barbaric what Hamas did its not new. German Females and kids were raped by Russian troops when they Entered Berlin at the end of WW2. Sadly its known as Spoils of War.

Except that, unlike the Palestinas, it was not ALL the Russians, and the Russians were not there for the sole purpose of raping and murdering.

Is that not a significant difference?

36 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

Hamas is a rock bottom terrorist group funded by Iran.

The real question is who founded them and why.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

“Hamas claims”—so who, and how is Israel in communication with Hamas or the reverse? First I’ve heard this.

Hamas’ terror attack and sexual violence are indisputably war crimes and crimes against humanity. Though not genocide as claimed, of course.

In a case like this, how is the attacker found, arrested, sent to court? Or…is the leadership charged?

IDF soldiers have certainly stepped far beyond the rules of engagement in Gaza. (Not talking about sexual violence. There may or may not be evidence of that.) In a just world, would they be charged as individuals or would their commanders?

If this report has been translated into English, I’d like to read it. Can anyone point me there? I have no doubt about its veracity.

@Yellowtail I don’t support “these people” nor do I make excuses for them. Sexual violence is what treats women as property.

@Nick Carter icp FFS, Nick, what the F is wrong with you?!? “Internal searches for explosives and weapons” FFS!

@Patong2021 Yep, so sho me where Israel  accepts responsibility for IDF’s horrors. Few investigations, fewer charges, even fewer prosecutions, no convictions. I don’t need to detail them.

Deepest sympathy for the victims…

You are on here every day supporting them an making excuses for them.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Couldn't agree more. Standing beside IDF soldiers, commanders, prison guards and colonists being subject to equal penalties.

That could only happen if Hamas also took legal action against Palestinians for their crimes committed .

15 minutes ago, johng said:

The real question is who founded them and why.

Everyone knows the answer to that .

Conspiracy theorists claim that it was Israel who founded Hamas and thus Israel were responsible for Oct 7 th

But Israel didnt found Hamas , Israel just supported Hamas in their fight against the PLO

32 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The truth can be a terrible thing, when it disrupts your highly coveted political narrative.

You don't seem to want to see or hear the truth about the Palestinian war criminals , you just want to point your finger at Israel all the time

1 hour ago, ericbj said:

The Iranian state supports the Jewish religion. A synagogue in Tehran was recently obliterated by a targeted Israeli air-strike.

The historic Rafi-Nia Synagogue in Tehran was significantly damaged and rendered unusable following an Israeli airstrike on an adjacent building in central Tehran.

The synagogue was heavily impacted by a pre-dawn strike around 3:15 AM local time, which was targeting a nearby senior military commander from Iran's Khatam al-Anbiya emergency command

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Everyone knows the answer to that .

Conspiracy theorists claim that it was Israel who founded Hamas and thus Israel were responsible for Oct 7 th

But Israel didnt found Hamas , Israel just supported Hamas in their fight against the PLO

I bet many didn't know the answer ...

'Israel just supported Hamas in their fight against the PLO'

and then turn round and accuse Iran.

Conspiracy theorists indeed !! 😂

4 minutes ago, johng said:

I bet many didn't know the answer ...

'Israel just supported Hamas in their fight against the PLO'

and then turn round and accuse Iran.

Conspiracy theorists indeed !! 😂

Israel supported Hamas in their fight against the PLO 40 odd years go , Hamas then began attacking Israel 30 odd years ago , supported and funded by Iran .

It all makes sense if you think about it

5 hours ago, Autocan said:

At which the rest of the world threw up their hands and said, "You animals have been raping and killing and pillaging on Palestinian land for 80 years. You've got thousands of Palestinians, including minors, locked up in your prisons that you torture, sexually assault and even set dogs on."

"So, yea, the Palestinians are entitled to their one day they were able to break loose and vent. Deal with it, forkin animals."

Unfortunately there is no hope for some people.

3 hours ago, placnx said:

Up to now only two people have been hanged in Israel's history. One was Eichman, who was a major figure in the Holocaust. Now we must wait to see whether the hanging law is employed judiciously. Otherwise, Netanyahu/Ben Gvir/Smotrich may end up figuratively hanging Israel.

As does Iran.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why would the World support Hamas terrorists , rapists and baby killers ?

Why would the World oppose them being bought to justice for their crimes ?

Justice is dandy, as long as it is applied equally to Israeli terrorists, rapists and baby killers.