8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Well why did you not post this before this is a News forum and if you read the rules Facts and backup to substantiate your statements is part of your post thanks for the link it proves your point

i send first post a google .....but by the way i have 3 friends working for pegasus.yes expensive education , but the salary in this case is extra ordenary for turkey ( and all are very happy about the job even they payed a lot,and a job at TK was unreachable at this time,but after flying for pegasus their big dream can come reality working later for TK) --compare to other low cost like ryanair. there is not only black and white.

in many fields of education for your job you invest first and get dept loaded before you start to work , US again greats at first

3 minutes ago, lapamita said:

i send first post a google .....but by the way i have 3 friends working for pegasus.yes expensive education , but the salary in this case is extra ordenary for turkey ( and all are very happy about the job even they payed a lot,and a job at TK was unreachable at this time,but after flying for pegasus their big dream can come reality working later for TK) --compare to other low cost like ryanair. there is not only black and white.

in many fields of education for your job you invest first and get dept loaded before you start to work , US again greats at first

"Pay to Fly" (P2F) is widely considered to be an exploitative and corrupt practice

The debate over why this practice is widely considered corrupt and dangerous centers on a few specific factors:

• Safety Compromises: A pilot's position demands high-level skills, discipline, and the ability to work under pressure, not simply an accumulation of hours. Because pilots pay to work, airlines may employ individuals based on their ability to pay rather than their actual capability.

• Worker Exploitation: P2F is a system where unethical employers take advantage of young or desperate pilots who need mandatory flight hours to become employable. Instead of the airline bearing the cost of line-training, the financial burden is unfairly passed onto the pilot.

• Cockpit Pressure: Pilots working under this model face immense financial stress. This can impair decision-making in the cockpit, and pilots may fear reporting mechanical or safety issues for fear of being grounded and losing their massive financial investment.

Because of these concerns, the P2F business model is banned in several countries and heavily condemned by major industry bodies, such as the European Cockpit Association. Industry professionals and regulatory advocates, such as the Thai Pilots Association, routinely push for strict bans on the practice to protect passenger safety and worker rights.

20 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Well, not a suprise really, as corruption has wormed its way into every corner of everything here, from a monoply on paper clips and stationary to airlines and military procurement, and there is probably a mafia for toothpicks here... no exceptions.

If the locals spent as much time trying to forward the country to a first-world entity as they do toward scamming and brown envelopes, then it would be like Singapore here. Sadly, not going to happen.

If I wanted to live in a Singapore, I'd move there. Probably get caned for expressing my opinion, too.

17 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

If I wanted to live in a Singapore, I'd move there. Probably get caned for expressing my opinion, too.

I dont know why you would say that "Probably get caned for expressing my opinion," Freedom of speech in Singapore, apart from

Misinformation act do you not tell the truth on your post !!!!! if you do not then i can understand why you would get canned and so you should !

On 6/11/2026 at 9:33 AM, Sigmund said:

All goes with the packet as it is same for government promotions, mainly in the Police force, where they have to pay a hefty bribe to get a higher rank promotion.

On 6/11/2026 at 9:33 AM, Sigmund said:

All goes with the packet as it is same for government promotions, mainly in the Police force, where they have to pay a hefty bribe to get a higher rank promotion.

We knew a IO at the Hua Hin office who asked to be transferred to Samuel Sakhon where her husband had just been transferred. She was denied her request unless she could pay a sufficient sum of money she did not have. She left Hua Hin a couple of years later after her husband paid for her move.

On 6/11/2026 at 4:04 AM, lapamita said:

Nothing new and practice in the west since llloooong time

Indeed. This is a common practice in Europe and not only low cost carriers also among traditional airlines. My son experienced it firsthand, at his (my) expense.

On 6/11/2026 at 10:57 AM, Srikcir said:

"in the West"?

Not in US, Canada, UK, France, EU.

Not in Australia either, but Australia is down under

On 6/12/2026 at 5:00 PM, Nid-Noi said:

We knew a IO at the Hua Hin office who asked to be transferred to Samuel Sakhon where her husband had just been transferred. She was denied her request unless she could pay a sufficient sum of money she did not have. She left Hua Hin a couple of years later after her husband paid for her move.

Agree. Reminds of this other construction renovation chap in Hua Hin who paid annually 30'000 THB to a immigration officer friend, who would "arrange" for his annual visa and that through, passing the queue through the VIP Lane.