After a 5 month delay ( due to war etc ) I will finaly be flying to the UK on 28th July to help with my ailing 93 year old mother. I will be staying there 10 weeks.

While there I will be getting a new UK passport. I understand that if I get a re entry visa in my old passport , all I have to do on my return is present both passports to the immigration officer at the airport to gain entry. After that , once I get to my home province , take both passports to my local immigration and get my old Non O visa transfered to my new passport.

However , I was considering starting over and getting a new Non O evisa from the Thai embassy in London. I understand that you need to apply online for an evisa which I assume is not printed in your new passport but sent to you as a PDF file ???

The fly in the ointment is the proof of 400,000 in the Bangkok bank which will require an up to date statement. The Bangkok bank app can apparently provide this but the app does not seem reliable.

Alternatively , AI informs me that I can enter Thailand on a tourist visa , convert this to a Non O in country using form TM86 then aply for an extenion as per normal with the usual paperwork

So ....my question is.....which is the simplest option least likely to go wrong. I am leaning towards just getting a re entry visa but was wondering if others had found the other ways easier.

If you already have an extension then surely getting a reentry permit has to be the easiest option. This assumes the expiry of your current extension exceeds the planned duration of your trip. The other options are more effort and expense for no obvious benefit.

6 minutes ago, trucking said:

While there I will be getting a new UK passport. I understand that if I get a re entry visa in my old passport , all I have to do on my return is present both passports to the immigration officer at the airport to gain entry. After that , once I get to my home province , take both passports to my local immigration and get my old Non O visa transfered to my new passport.

If it were me, I would do this.

35 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

If you already have an extension then surely getting a reentry permit has to be the easiest option. This assumes the expiry of your current extension exceeds the planned duration of your trip. The other options are more effort and expense for no obvious benefit.

Yes....I am now reverting to this option since it seems easiest with least hoops to jump through. I only asked because when it first entered my head to get a new Non O i didn't fully appreciate how convoluted it would get. It also had to investigate it since , if just at the end of my 10 week stay my mothers health took a serious downturn , obliging me to stay longer , then my total stay would exceed my current extension

( which expires Nov 2nd ). If this happens then I'll just ignore getting a new non O , enter on a tourist visa and take it from there. The 400,000 has been in the bank for 6 months already so no issue there. Thanks for confirming my own thoughts

45 minutes ago, trucking said:

While there I will be getting a new UK passport. I understand that if I get a re entry visa in my old passport , all I have to do on my return is present both passports to the immigration officer at the airport to gain entry. After that , once I get to my home province , take both passports to my local immigration and get my old Non O visa transfered to my new passport

You would be obtaining a reentry permit.

You obtain that prior to leaving Thailand.

Skip the idea of starting over.

Which immigration office.

Single reentry permit is 1000b at immigration office or airport at time of departure.

1 minute ago, trucking said:

Yes....I am now reverting to this option since it seems easiest with least hoops to jump through. I only asked because when it first entered my head to get a new Non O i didn't fully appreciate how convoluted it would get. It also had to investigate it since , if just at the end of my 10 week stay my mothers health took a serious downturn , obliging me to stay longer , then my total stay would exceed my current extension

( which expires Nov 2nd ). If this happens then I'll just ignore getting a new non O , enter on a tourist visa and take it from there. The 400,000 has been in the bank for 6 months already so no issue there. Thanks for confirming my own thoughts

If it does come to that then I would highly recommend getting the new non O in the UK. It's so easy to do, completely online, and you'd have it within a week.

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You would be obtaining a reentry permit.

You obtain that prior to leaving Thailand.

Skip the idea of starting over.

Which immigration office.

Single reentry permit is 1000b at immigration office or airport at time of departure.

Yup, praise the lord, I have seen the light. Re entry visa is the way to go which I have always done in the past. Just hoping mum doesn't have a relapse obliging me to stay longer.

Just now, trucking said:

Just hoping mum doesn't have a relapse obliging me to stay longer.

Yes, I post exact time you posted indicating possible need for longer stay.

Post above yours from Upnotover is best advice if longer stay required.

1 minute ago, Upnotover said:

If it does come to that then I would highly recommend getting the new non O in the UK. It's so easy to do, completely online, and you'd have it within a week.

The issue I have with that is getting a statement from the Bangkok Bank of proof of funds. Apparently their app can provide this but the app is locking me out so I need to go to the bank to get that issue sorted to cover any eventuality.

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes, I post exact time you posted indicating possible need for longer stay.

Post above yours from Upnotover is best advice if longer stay required.

But as a matter of interest , is option C , entering on a tourist visa , converting to an Non O and carrying on as normal even allowed ?

The AI answer that provided this option made it sound easy enough with form TM86 providing that the 400,000 is in the bank already and properly seasoned . ( AI got this wrong as it still thinks 2 months is enough whereas it is now 4 months )

8 minutes ago, trucking said:

But as a matter of interest , is option C , entering on a tourist visa , converting to an Non O and carrying on as normal even allowed ?

The thing is that if Non O is obtained inside Thailand from tourist visa or visa exempt. Normally the funds would need to be shown as funds from abroad.

However seems your money has been in bank for some time so that's not required.

Forget the freezing of the funds by BBL.

That is just BBL specific nonsense.

They are refusing to provide bank letter if funds have not been in account for 4 months.

4 hours ago, trucking said:

The issue I have with that is getting a statement from the Bangkok Bank of proof of funds. Apparently their app can provide this but the app is locking me out so I need to go to the bank to get that issue sorted to cover any eventuality.

Just thought I'd add, the funds (400k) do not have to be in a Thai bank to obtain a NON-O, you can have the equivalent in a bank back home. Since you are leaning towards a re-entry permit you could try to ask at your immigration office if they would renew your extension early and get the re-entry on the same visit. They are sometimes sympathetic to family reasons for requesting an early renewal.

6 minutes ago, expat_4_life said:

Just thought I'd add, the funds (400k) do not have to be in a Thai bank to obtain a NON-O, you can have the equivalent in a bank back home. Since you are leaning towards a re-entry permit you could try to ask at your immigration office if they would renew your extension early and get the re-entry on the same visit. They are sometimes sympathetic to family reasons for requesting an early renewal.

You make some good points however looking at OP dates the extension application would be way early..

Also you overlooked it's an extension based on marriage.

That's a deal breaker.

6 hours ago, trucking said:

The issue I have with that is getting a statement from the Bangkok Bank of proof of funds. Apparently their app can provide this but the app is locking me out so I need to go to the bank to get that issue sorted to cover any eventuality.

The app is locking you out?

Why? What do you mean?

Do you mean when trying to use the app while abroad?

If that's the case, you have to use the app on the same phone with the same sim card you use when in Thailand, so you won't be locked out.

30 minutes ago, pub2022 said:

The app is locking you out?

Why? What do you mean?

Do you mean when trying to use the app while abroad?

There has been few threads regarding this issue.

For most obtaining a Non O evisa in eg UK many would be using their UK bank account to show funds in bank.

@Upnotover any suggestions for the OP who has funds in his Thai bank BBL account

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

There has been few threads regarding this issue.

For most obtaining a Non O evisa in eg UK many would be using their UK bank account to show funds in bank.

@Upnotover any suggestions for the OP who has funds in his Thai bank BBL account

I used money in my Kasikorn account for a non O (over 50) from London in 2024. Just downloaded a statement using the app. Although it seems the OP has issues with the Bangkok Bank app I would focus on getting that sorted. Failing that I am sure a call to the bank could initiate them sending a statement to him by email.

I did this in March, before leaving Thailand, I visited my local BBL branch and got a one month statement. I had 400k in there ready for marriage extension. I was surprised how easy the UK non O visa application was. Applied Saturday and following Thursday had the E -visa sent to me by e-mail.

Just completed the first 90 days, and got my 12 months stay last week, Points to note on my paperwork, E visa letter, TDAC and TM30, added to the other sink full of docs,

6 minutes ago, Pasak110 said:

I did this in March, before leaving Thailand, I visited my local BBL branch and got a one month statement. I had 400k in there ready for marriage extension. I was surprised how easy the UK non O visa application was. Applied Saturday and following Thursday had the E -visa sent to me by e-mail.

Just completed the first 90 days, and got my 12 months stay last week, Points to note on my paperwork, E visa letter, TDAC and TM30, added to the other sink full of docs,

When the E visa is sent to you , is it in PDF form to be downloaded or when you get to Thai immigration do you have to show it to them on your phone ?

7 minutes ago, trucking said:

Thai immigration do you have to show it to them on your phone ?

Its not just immigration. The airline may want a to see copy of evisa.

Do hard copy print out. It's not a big deal

1 hour ago, Upnotover said:

I used money in my Kasikorn account for a non O (over 50) from London in 2024. Just downloaded a statement using the app. Although it seems the OP has issues with the Bangkok Bank app I would focus on getting that sorted. Failing that I am sure a call to the bank could initiate them sending a statement to him by email.

Yes , I will go to the bank this week to get the app issue sorted and explain the situation. 90% of my funds are in Thailand so it would be awkward trying to use my UK bank for a statement.

As mentioned , I am really hoping that it won't come to having to apply for a new non O . With a re entry visa and new passport I can just carry on as normal. However , I have to factor in the situation where my mothers condition does not permit my scheduled return and I could be there beyond Christmas . Care duties for the future are going to be discussed with my sister, Hoping to hammer out a 6 months on 6 months off agreement with her which is why I am making this trip. She is 93 and cannot travel plus she does not want to move here anyway. Too much upheavel for her.

Thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions. It's really what makes this forum shine. A problem shared is a problem halved.

Edited July 11Jul 11 by trucking

6 minutes ago, trucking said:

When the E visa is sent to you , is it in PDF form to be downloaded or when you get to Thai immigration do you have to show it to them on your phone ?

Yes, sent as an attachment in gmail (pdf?) I had to get a friend to print off a couple of copies. I had to show it to Emirates counter staff at Manchester airport, as on a return flight to Thailand. At Suvarnabhumi airport I showed it to Imm Off and stamped in. I cannot answer your Q about on the phone, cannot see why not!

2 minutes ago, Pasak110 said:

I cannot answer your Q about on the phone, cannot see why not!

You did the right thing in printing out hard copy.

Even print out of screenshot would suffice.

1 hour ago, Pasak110 said:

Yes, sent as an attachment in gmail (pdf?) I had to get a friend to print off a couple of copies. I had to show it to Emirates counter staff at Manchester airport, as on a return flight to Thailand. At Suvarnabhumi airport I showed it to Imm Off and stamped in. I cannot answer your Q about on the phone, cannot see why not!

Thanks. I know frequent travelers will be familier with the latest options but it is all new to me , never having had to apply for any kind of evisa before. As the Thai saying goes ....ngo ma gorn chalart

11 minutes ago, trucking said:

I know frequent travelers will be familier with the latest options but it is all new to me , never having had to apply for any kind of evisa before

The e-Visa works a treat.

All done online (apart from Laos where you do payment at the embassy) .

Also saves pages in pp.

Been a great improvement

On 7/10/2026 at 3:09 PM, trucking said:

After a 5 month delay ( due to war etc ) I will finaly be flying to the UK on 28th July to help with my ailing 93 year old mother. I will be staying there 10 weeks.

While there I will be getting a new UK passport. I understand that if I get a re entry visa in my old passport , all I have to do on my return is present both passports to the immigration officer at the airport to gain entry. After that , once I get to my home province , take both passports to my local immigration and get my old Non O visa transfered to my new passport.

However , I was considering starting over and getting a new Non O evisa from the Thai embassy in London. I understand that you need to apply online for an evisa which I assume is not printed in your new passport but sent to you as a PDF file ???

The fly in the ointment is the proof of 400,000 in the Bangkok bank which will require an up to date statement. The Bangkok bank app can apparently provide this but the app does not seem reliable.

Alternatively , AI informs me that I can enter Thailand on a tourist visa , convert this to a Non O in country using form TM86 then aply for an extenion as per normal with the usual paperwork

So ....my question is.....which is the simplest option least likely to go wrong. I am leaning towards just getting a re entry visa but was wondering if others had found the other ways easier.

I went back in Sept 23 to renew my passport. I had a re-entry permit in my passport but I was pushed for time and decided to get a new visa.

I still had online banking and submitted a statatement from my TTB account for the financial. You do not need to show funds in Thailand, they can be anywhere and as it is a 90 day visa the full 400K is not necessary, that is a left over from the days of ME visas. The process is fairly straightforward and the visa comes by email, just show it to IO on arrival.

There are a few plus points to the new visa and passport. No stamps to be concerned about and you get a free 90 day report. Doing an extension is very much like normal, done it more that once for a new visa. When you do the extension, immigration will do a 90 day report for you so the first one is effectively 6 months after you get back.

I just moved my old TM30 from the old passport to the new and nothing was said.

It is all about personal circumstances and for me, going to immigration costs the best part of a day, apart from the fuel, something to be avoided.

5 hours ago, sandyf said:

I still had online banking and submitted a statatement from my TTB account for the financial. You do not need to show funds in Thailand, they can be anywhere and as it is a 90 day visa the full 400K is not necessary, that is a left over from the days of ME visas.

So , any idea how much is acceptable ? Is there an official amount since as you say , it is initially only for 90 days.

I do have some funds in the UK but not upto 400,000.

8 hours ago, trucking said:

So , any idea how much is acceptable ? Is there an official amount since as you say , it is initially only for 90 days.

I do have some funds in the UK but not upto 400,000.

The required amount is dependent on the embassy. They all have their own exchange rates that they use. So it's either 400,000 baht in a Thai account, or whatever the embassy's website says is the required amount in the local currency. Normally quite a bit over 400,000 baht so they don't have to adjust the exchange rate every week.

17 hours ago, trucking said:

So , any idea how much is acceptable ? Is there an official amount since as you say , it is initially only for 90 days.

I do have some funds in the UK but not upto 400,000.

Based on 400K I am assuming you are talking about marriage. Unless things have changed there are 2 questions on the application, q4 & Q10, the former relates to income and the latter effectively savings. A friend of mine for Q4 just puts a copy of his state pension letter and then for Q10 says refer to Q4. I assume you are not in the same position.

Regarding an amount, there was a great deal of debate on this a few years back and I seem to remember someone actually asked the embassy. The response was a bit arbitrary but to the effect that anything over £1k would be considered. Several had commented that they had been successful with 2/3K.

I have attached a copy of the main page as it was when I did it in 22.

BTW for marriage you need a note from your wife to confirm she expects you to return. I would suggest you bring that with you.

I had my previous extension expire last year so in October did the eVisa.

1. You get a pdf and I advise printing it out, but when you land, if you have internet, then you can bring it up on the phone. I wasn't asked for it because they already had the info from the online TDAC registration that your're required to do.

2. For the eVisa, you upload images. I uploaded screenshots of my US accounts and Bangkok bank acct as well as monthly pension payments. Received approval within a week in the US.

3. Was asked for an updated lease at CW when I went to convert the 90 day eVisa. My previous lease had gone to month to month a couple years earlier. While at CW, my landlord sent a new lease, otherwise would have had to return for another visit.

4. Note that with a new visa, you must report where you're staying within X? days or they will fine you when you go to convert the 90 day. Yeah, they got me on that one despite living at the same location for many years, listing the info on TDAC, etc etc. Fail to cross the T's and dot the I's, then pay the fine. TIT

Edited July 21Jul 21 by JerseytoBKK