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Fingerprint checking to be introduced for extensions?

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Haven't seen this reported elsewhere on the forum yet.

Thailand updates criminal record check rules for foreign applicants

This requirement applies to nine specific categories of applications, including key immigration procedures such as permanent residence and extensions of stay.

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Thailand updates criminal record check rules for foreign...

Thailand requires fingerprint-based criminal record checks for nine procedures, including permanent residence, stay extensions and nationality applications.

Has anyone else heard about this? Sounds pretty intrusive.

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  • Why, what are you afraid of? It seems like a great idea and certainly something that needs to be done to weed out the foreign criminal element.

  • Click on link in first post from OP. Just checked. No problem. Even better... Ignore this guesswork thread

  • There is nothing in this announcement to suggest that Immigration WILL start asking for criminal background checks -- only IF they choose to do so, these are the new procedures that must be followed.

It's a bit ambiguous but I'd be ok with criminal record checks being widespread, need to filter out the riffraff some way, but this is about providing finger prints so not clear how that affects retirement extension of stay if at all

I doubt agents would be happy with this, case closed lol

Where is an actual link to the source of this so called info?

15 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Sounds pretty intrusive.

Why, what are you afraid of? It seems like a great idea and certainly something that needs to be done to weed out the foreign criminal element.

Doesn't Thailand have a database similar to NCIC that would have all criminal records on file in the Kingdom?

If this idea helps us get rid of the foreign pirates who give us a bad reputation, I'm all for it; but I don't know how fingerprints would help them more than a database.

8 minutes ago, novacova said:

Why, what are you afraid of? It seems like a great idea and certainly something that needs to be done to weed out the foreign criminal element.

They have zero chance of doing that. It will of course only pick up convictions inside Thailand for they have access to literally nothing else - and they already know about any convictions inside Thailand.

8 minutes ago, ukrules said:

They have zero chance of doing that. It will of course only pick up convictions inside Thailand for they have access to literally nothing else - and they already know about any convictions inside Thailand.

With a fingerprint Thailand via the FBI could have access to 70 million US criminal records.

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Up next? DNA cheek swabs, 'eh? thumbsup

3 minutes ago, JerryM said:

With a fingerprint Thailand via the FBI could have access to 70 million US criminal records.


They don't allow Thailand access to that information, ever. Nobody does.

14 minutes ago, ukrules said:

They have zero chance of doing that. It will of course only pick up convictions inside Thailand for they have access to literally nothing else - and they already know about any convictions inside Thailand.

Have no idea, though most countries have extensive criminal databases, and AI being implemented for many things these days is probably making it easier to streamline and cross reference names and fingerprints.

1 minute ago, connda said:

next? DNA cheek swabs

My work permit this year requires not only fingerprints but an eye scan. They are going all in.

34 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Where is an actual link to the source of this so called info?

Whilst it does sound a bit like "My mate down the pub told me......" there was actually a link to the Nation report there:

Thailand updates criminal record check rules for foreign applicants

1 minute ago, ukrules said:


They don't allow Thailand access to that information, ever. Nobody does.

It’s probably a cross reference for current warrants of wanted criminals. Of which th does not need to access FBI databases.

Urine tests next.

You heard it hear first.

53 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Has anyone else heard about this? Sounds pretty intrusive.

You can never be too careful.

Wait 'til they implement mandatory stool samples!

Every time you enter Thailand your fingerprints are recorded anyway. No need to worry about one additional time at immigration.

14 minutes ago, ukrules said:


They don't allow Thailand access to that information, ever. Nobody does.

https://travel.state.gov/en/international-travel/living-abroad/criminal-records.html

FBI background check records

The Criminal Justice Information Services (CJIS) Division of the FBI provides a range of state of-the-art tools and services to law enforcement, national security and intelligence community partners, and the general public.

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What exactly are they testing them against? I'm pretty sure that they don't have access to fingerprints of all the world's criminals.

Another scaremongering thread that commences guess work.

Best policy is to wait for factual first hand reports as is always the case in Thailand.

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1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

Where is an actual link to the source of this so called info?

It's right there in the OP.

8 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's right there in the OP.

Yes.

An article from The Nation.

Tabloid

Criminals don't do extensions

From the Nation link in OP:

The fingerprint-only requirement also applies to all foreign nationals seeking criminal record checks in Thailand. Applicants must submit an official letter from the relevant government agency or organisation with their request.

NB So as far as extensions go, you won't have to get a fingerprint until Immigration asks you to do so.

The wording on that post is pretty vague. If they actually mean for every extension through immigration, that's going to be hundreds/thousands of background checks per week for tourists. I don't think that department could handle that.

1 hour ago, novacova said:

It’s probably a cross reference for current warrants of wanted criminals. Of which th does not need to access FBI databases.

Doesn't need fingerprints either, name and DOB is enough for that.

It's obviously for checking Thai records.

We know this because the process to get a record check document is a prolonged pain in the arse to complete should you need it for a work permit or something like that, and you need to do it yourself.

1 hour ago, JerryM said:

https://travel.state.gov/en/international-travel/living-abroad/criminal-records.html

FBI background check records

The Criminal Justice Information Services (CJIS) Division of the FBI provides a range of state of-the-art tools and services to law enforcement, national security and intelligence community partners, and the general public.

The point being you need to apply for that yourself.

The US however is an exception among countries in that they hand over all your information to Canada and since they started that even minor convictions decades ago have barred people from the US going into Canada and vice versa.

I guess the punishment never ends does it?

They only do this with Canada or they did the last time I looked. There were loads of people turned around at borders for minor charges decades ago, not allowed entry for smoking a joint back in the 60's - that kind of thing.

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46 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes.

An article from The Nation.

Tabloid

I cannot see any link!

How do I access it?

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

I cannot see any link!

How do I access it?

The picture in the article is the link

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