2 hours ago, Furioso said:

Here's the breakdown for Honda City Turbo:

1. Highway Driving: Around 19 to 22.7 km/L at steady cruising speeds.

2. Mixed / Eco Driving: Around 18 to 21 km/L under normal combined use.

3. Heavy City Traffic: Drops to about 7 to 10 km/L during rush-hour congestion

We have gotten about 24km/l on a good highway run in out city. Our crv can get 20-22km/l (20 km/l comfortably)

2 hours ago, DavisH said:

We have never gotten anywhere near 10km/l in out city turbo, though we don't often go into Bangkok. I think the average is more like 17-19km/l over mixed driving (a but less than our swift that was modified). The hybrid will do better,. especially in city driving. The turbo does need its oil changed on schedule, as it has a belt in oil system. The belt should be changed ab about 100K kms. But the hybrid has a 1.5L engine so it's not the same. I've not read of any major issues with the hybrid car. I think eventually fully ICE hondas will be phased out.

I've read the Honda hybrids have had trouble with engine mounts. The ICE Turbo known for timing belt problems.

Just now, Furioso said:

I've read the Honda hybrids have had trouble with engine mounts. The ICE Turbo known for timing belt problems.

Every vehicle has problems, the internet makes them seem more than they are.

Every engine with a timing belt has belt issues, generally from people not changing per the schedule.

I was surprised at how much smaller the Turbo was than the HEV, but still produced more power at lower RPM.

2 hours ago, DavisH said:

We have gotten about 24km/l on a good highway run in out city. Our crv can get 20-22km/l (20 km/l comfortably

My friend just bought a new CRV and it's an awesome ride. I've been in it a few times he drives it like a baby he gets around 17km/l in the city and I think on his recent trip to Surat Thani he got 22km/l.

8 hours ago, Furioso said:

I've read the Honda hybrids have had trouble with engine mounts. The ICE Turbo known for timing belt problems.

Some guys remap the city, race it, use the wrong oil, etc...no wonder there's belt problems. It's hard to go by facebook groups as noone reports their car is fine, only the problems they have. A lot of it stems from poor maintenance/lack of servicing.

On 8/18/2026 at 10:17 PM, Furioso said:

The only ICE Turbo is the lowest trim, the S for 580,000 baht.

Personally wouldn’t own a small ice turbo engine, small turbo engines run hotter and heat accelerates wear on the engine and components.

3 hours ago, novacova said:

Personally wouldn’t own a small ice turbo engine, small turbo engines run hotter and heat accelerates wear on the engine and components.

I can't argue because you're right. Turbo's run very hot I've seen what they do to synthetic oil after just a couple of months of moderate driving. Turns that oil into junk, regular oil changes are a must..

..but I wonder if being in warm/hot climate like Thailand is better for turbos because no cold starts?

15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

At 10,000 km a year, you'll have to change the oil every six months thought the warranty, and once a year after that.

Most car mfg make you buy the hybrid to get all the high-margin options.

Not 10,000 a year... 10,000 or 6 months which ever comes first.

Once out of warranty one would be a fool to not continue the same intervals.

2 minutes ago, Furioso said:

I can't argue because you're right. Turbo's run very hot I've seen what they do to synthetic oil after just a couple of months of moderate driving. Turns that oil into junk,

That has not been my experience.

2 minutes ago, Furioso said:

regular oil changes are a must..

As with any vehicle

2 minutes ago, Furioso said:

..but I wonder if being in warm/hot climate like Thailand is better for turbos because no cold starts?

No.

I drive diesel, but six vehicles with turbos, here in 25 years, over 1,200,000km driven, and no issue with a turbo.

The P10A6 engine is seven years old, and well refined, as is the 7th gen City platform. It should be a trouble-free vehicle.

That said, as the platform is seven years old and had two facelifts. I would look for an "all-new" platform in the next year or two.

If possible, I like to buy a car in the second year of a new platform.

I suggest your four most likely top contenders based on your preferences, shown here with monthly sales, are:

Yaris Cross: 2,424
HR-V: 1,625
Honda City: 1,391
Corolla Cross: 1,376

Given that you want a Japanese car you can sell quickly if needed, sales volume is worth looking at.

Sales volume is a good indicator of future liquidity. Their high sales aren't just a positive because 'more people buy them.' More importantly, they create a large future pool of used-car buyers, mechanics, parts suppliers and dealers, and in this case are a positive indicator for depreciation.

The HR-V has strong sales and fits many of your requirements, and I like it, but it doesn't have the 360° Multi-View Camera you said is a must-have, likely given your four years of motorcycle experience.

Fun facts:
My Yaris Cross got 30 km/L on a wet, winding, hilly village/highway run yesterday.

Https://youtu.be/oqMl5CRoFdk

https://autolifethailand.tv/sales-report-eco-b-segment-hatchback-ice-hev-bev-overall-2025-thailand/
https://autolifethailand.tv/sales-report-b-suv-bc-suv-june-2026/

A golden rule for any thermic fuel run car. The more often you change the oil and the oil filters, the longer it will last. Also in a tropical climate, more frequent changes of the engine coolant are helpful. But then you need a dealership that is trustworthy and will use the genuine brands for oil and other liquids and not some local made crap. The whole issue lies here. How honest will the local dealership be in doing the job with the proper brands ? With this in mind, an EV would for sure solve this concern as there is none of such maintenance issues.

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

That has not been my experience.

As with any vehicle

No.

I drive diesel, but six vehicles with turbos, here in 25 years, over 1,200,000km driven, and no issue with a turbo.

The P10A6 engine is seven years old, and well refined, as is the 7th gen City platform. It should be a trouble-free vehicle.

That said, as the platform is seven years old and had two facelifts. I would look for an "all-new" platform in the next year or two.

If possible, I like to buy a car in the second year of a new platform.

Yes, they gotta come out with a new City eventually. I read the new ver. may come out anywhere from 2027-2029 and you're right it's better to wait a year for them to get the bugs out.

27 minutes ago, Furioso said:

Yes, they gotta come out with a new City eventually. I read the new ver. may come out anywhere from 2027-2029 and you're right it's better to wait a year for them to get the bugs out.

They often save a nice new color or trim variation to boost sales as well.

23 hours ago, LosLobo said:

I suggest your four most likely top contenders based on your preferences, shown here with monthly sales, are:

Yaris Cross: 2,424
HR-V: 1,625
Honda City: 1,391
Corolla Cross: 1,376

Given that you want a Japanese car you can sell quickly if needed, sales volume is worth looking at.

Sales volume is a good indicator of future liquidity. Their high sales aren't just a positive because 'more people buy them.' More importantly, they create a large future pool of used-car buyers, mechanics, parts suppliers and dealers, and in this case are a positive indicator for depreciation.

The HR-V has strong sales and fits many of your requirements, and I like it, but it doesn't have the 360° Multi-View Camera you said is a must-have, likely given your four years of motorcycle experience.

Fun facts:
My Yaris Cross got 30 km/L on a wet, winding, hilly village/highway run yesterday.

Https://youtu.be/oqMl5CRoFdk

https://autolifethailand.tv/sales-report-eco-b-segment-hatchback-ice-hev-bev-overall-2025-thailand/
https://autolifethailand.tv/sales-report-b-suv-bc-suv-june-2026/

I like all four of your contenders but I think I can eliminate one off the bat as I'd definitely take the HRV over the Corolla Cross.

The car that I loved the most was the 1st gen Scion xB. It was that boxy subcompact that rode a little high and had a ton of room inside. My 2nd favorite was the 1996 Acura TL, it had a 5 cylinder I never should have upgraded that to the 03 model. 3rd fave was probably the 88 Accord DX Hatchback with 98 HP lol.

Worst cars I ever owned was the Lexus 350 and the 2000 Civic Si. That Si was a tin can, way too small for me back then.

Back to today, I do like the HRV but I've never taken to a bigger car/SUV. I like driving smaller, fun hatchbacks, hard to find. I even liked the Note I wish they still made that as I drove it and it was definitely my style.

I'm also looking for a hatchback that gives a little extra something. In the case of the City it has the magic seats(or whatever you call them) along with the long wheelbase which give a ton of legroom in the back seat.

Right now I'll say my top contenders are 1. City Hatch RS HEV 2. City Hatch S Turbo and if these two cars don't pass the test drive I'll look to test drive the Mazda CX-3, CX-30 and Yaris and Yaris Cross. I really don't want to go over a million baht unless it's a must have car.