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Australian's Bangkok ICU care costs $50,000 a week

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Again, was this due to no helmet? Missing information.

Good luck lady.

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  • damo1967
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    Maybe that is why the daughter is not giving any details about the 'accident'. No Insurance, drunk, no licence, no Helmet, drugs in system maybe? (a total loser if he did not learn from 2025 accid

  • 1happykamper
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    Which city? Do they not have public hospitals? Why do farang mostly go to private hospitals? Do public hospitals have ICU? In Thailand the same doctors and surgeons work in both public and private ho

  • It seems to me that most foreigners who are in an accident are sent to private hospitals when they are unconscious or have no say. Maybe wrong, but I don’t know why now she doesn’t move him to a publi

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1 hour ago, Showtime said:

This is chump change compared to the cost in the USA. That AUD 50,000 wouldn't even cover a day.

18 minutes ago, steve187 said:

a bit of a over simplified unhelpful post, ie a temple would not just burn a body dumped outside.

we need the details of the accident, as he has previous for m/c accident, its fair to assume the same here, there are too many unqualified, helmetless, drunk people driving m/c in Thailand

Agree,,,,,not sure why those details were left out.

In Australia they say when people drive on flooded roads ' a bloody idiot'. In Thailand if ride on a motor bike same saying applies, especially if not experienced on motorbike and especially if no helmet

8 minutes ago, Chris BKK said:

In Australia they say when people drive on flooded roads ' a bloody idiot'. In Thailand if ride on a motor bike same saying applies, especially if not experienced on motorbike and especially if no helmet

Even worse this seems to be his 2nd serious motorbike accident within the past 6 months/2years !

3 hours ago, 1happykamper said:

Which city? Do they not have public hospitals? Why do farang mostly go to private hospitals? Do public hospitals have ICU?

In Thailand the same doctors and surgeons work in both public and private hospitals. My 4 hour surgery for a broken leg in Chiang Mai 3 years ago was just 130,000 thb ..had I gone to the private hospital that the same surgeon would have done the procedure and it would have cost over $600,000! Same doc but in a more pleasant atmosphere.

Let's not forget that the racist Thai government allow medical facilities to charge foreigners double what thais pay for any treatment, and the racist Thai medical facilities take full advantage of the fact, its disgusting !

1 minute ago, Tim Othy said:

Let's not forget that the racist Thai government allow medical facilities to charge foreigners double what thais pay for any treatment, and the racist Thai medical facilities take full advantage of the fact, its disgusting !

Do the big privates dual price Thai's V Farnags ?

Or just stick the boot into both!

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Whatever the cause we would all feel deep concern if it was a parent of ours. There is always a lot of moralising in these situations but stuff happens. Thailand needs to improve its medical funding for ordinary hospitals. Thais tell me that in real emergencies family members face better emergency treatment in private hospitals in larger cities. Indeed in life threatening situations if they can afford it rural ppl will send family members to say the 'Bangkok' branded private hospitals etc

Thailand is a an unequal society but in Europe/Aus/NZ we know that the larger local hospitals are able to handle most serious cases like heart attacks /strokes and major traffic accidents. In Thailand I get the impression access to good private hospitals depends on your wealth and income not your needs, especially in rural areas like the North East etc.

a bit of a over simplified unhelpful post, ie a temple would not just burn a body dumped outside.

we need the details of the accident, as he has previous for m/c accident, its fair to assume the same here, there are too many unqualified, helmetless, drunk people driving m/c in Thailand

Not entirely 'unhelpful'... a lot of useful info in the post!

eg:- without knowing if he was drunk/drugged up/wearing helmet/had motorbike licence/had insurance etc.. DO NOT WASTE DONATING to this m0r0n! Leave him where he is..

Why should innocent people who would probably in most (if not all) cases get the proper insurance, and do the right things in Thailand.

FAFO!

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Had a Norwegian friend here who was involved in a serious m/bike accident including brain damage.

She had the sense just before passing out to say one word to the rescuers.That word was “Banglamung”.

She made a full recovery and couldn’t praise the hospital enough with the treatment costing a fraction of what a private hospital would have charged.

In my option there is nothing wrong with government hospitals.

2 hours ago, damo1967 said:

Maybe that is why the daughter is not giving any details about the 'accident'.

No Insurance, drunk, no licence, no Helmet, drugs in system maybe? (a total loser if he did not learn from 2025 accident... a deadbeat)

I was going to donate 5 thb to this loser, but have decided to keep my 5 thb.

The guy's famliy can take out 2nd or 3rd mortgages for him if they love him so much.

A better idea though: cancel the GoFundMe, turn off the machines he is on at hospital, let him pass away, hire a tuk tuk for 300 thb and dump him outside a Temple... they will then look after him and burn him.. (end of story)

Again, what a total loser!!!!!!! A lot of GoFundMe's are for patient's family to help them pay off their own mortgages. They 'use' relative's conditions for their own selfish purposes.

Harsh response but outlines today's reality. Before donating people want complete transparency. If the family can't and won't provide a complete and honest account of the events, this is what they can expect. An unsympathetic response with negative feelings and speculation.

1 hour ago, impulse said:

I suspect he was unconscious and didn't make that choice.

If you're unconscious after a bad accident, do you figure the ambulance is going to take you to a private hospital, or a government hospital, given that I think they are generally funded by finder's fees from the hospital?

I thinking similar and that with those injuries the Doctor onboard the ambulance may have advised going to the private hospital because it has whatever medical equipment that may he needed and Doctors more readily available without delay.

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12 minutes ago, damo1967 said:

Not entirely 'unhelpful'... a lot of useful info in the post!

eg:- without knowing if he was drunk/drugged up/wearing helmet/had motorbike licence/had insurance etc.. DO NOT WASTE DONATING to this m0r0n! Leave him where he is..

Why should innocent people who would probably in most (if not all) cases get the proper insurance, and do the right things in Thailand.

FAFO!

Just like to add to your comment of innocent people. Innocence can be in the form of innocent people being injured or killed by this drunk/drugged individual if he is in a position to ride motorbike again if he recovers.

Just now, J Branche said:

I thinking similar and that with those injuries the Doctor onboard the ambulance may have advised going to the private hospital probably has whatever equipment and Doctors more readily available without delay.

There's a ton of reasons to go private. I use Bumrungrad and Sametivej, realizing I'm paying a lot more. Partly because they have all my records from when I had great employer provided insurance, and both have done a great job. In English.

In this guy's case, I'm sure they hauled him in unconscious, and I suspect the private hospital won't release him to a cheaper place unless he settles up first.

"The cost of keeping Dad in the ICU is approximately $50,000 per week, and the cost of transporting him safely home to Australia is expected to be around $500,000," she wrote"

This is where the "living will" would have been helpful. Very little chance of him having a normal and productive life if he survives.

2 hours ago, Chooky1958 said:

I can’t understand a situation where someone can afford to travel overseas but cannot/ does not get the proper insurance..sure in cases of special circumstances (which i cant think of atm) perhaps a money raise otherwise get the proper insurance cover and don’t be a fool!

There's a simple answer: require every tourist to buy accident insurance when entering the country. Insurance the even covers idiocy on motorcycles. I don't know what that would cost. Maybe not too much for a short term policy.

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Insurance the even covers idiocy on motorcycles.

That is assuming they:

  • Are licenced.

  • Are sober (alochol and drugs).

  • Are wearing a helmet.

  • Are obeying road rules.

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nice rock!

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3 hours ago, damo1967 said:

Maybe that is why the daughter is not giving any details about the 'accident'.

No Insurance, drunk, no licence, no Helmet, drugs in system maybe? (a total loser if he did not learn from 2025 accident... a deadbeat)

I was going to donate 5 thb to this loser, but have decided to keep my 5 thb.

The guy's famliy can take out 2nd or 3rd mortgages for him if they love him so much.

A better idea though: cancel the GoFundMe, turn off the machines he is on at hospital, let him pass away, hire a tuk tuk for 300 thb and dump him outside a Temple... they will then look after him and burn him.. (end of story)

Again, what a total loser!!!!!!! A lot of GoFundMe's are for patient's family to help them pay off their own mortgages. They 'use' relative's conditions for their own selfish purposes.

Your mindset is making you more likely to be a loser.👎👎👎

1 minute ago, 241195_1469957797 said:

Your mindset is making you more likely to be a loser.👎👎👎

Another motorcycle rider who thinks they'll never have a serious accident on a motorcycle.

If you believe, it will never happen.

WINNING 😄

Neurosurgeons are never cheap. I don't care where you're from or where you go. Personally, I wouldn't want to go to a state hospital or one of the "public hospitals" with all the other chickens and goats. I've seen what goes on in there, and I would not want to be in one. I already told my wife "you sent me to a private international hospital" if something happens to me, I'll pay the bill. This gentleman is very unfortunate having multiple brain operations. He probably can't be moved because at $50,000 dollar a week, he might as well get an air ambulance to transport him to his home country... if that's what they think is a cheaper/better alternative. And by the looks of that diamond (assuming it's real) on his daughters hand, someone close to him has money.

9 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

A GoFundMe appeal started by James's cousin, Bridgette Pereira, is seeking $250,000 to help cover the man's treatment. It had received well over $36,000 in donations by Sunday.

In a note on the fundraising page, James said more than $135,000 had already been incurred for emergency brain surgery and continuing ICU care.

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If that ring contains a genuine diamond or other kind of valuable gem, I would sell it before starting a fund raising page — or at least remove it before a photo is taken — seems like too many people forget both insurance and common sense.

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

That is assuming they:

  • Are licenced.

  • Are sober (alochol and drugs).

  • Are wearing a helmet.

  • Are obeying road rules.

Maybe Thailand could just charge a larger entry fee and establish a pool for the payment of hospital bills for all tourists.

4 hours ago, Showtime said:

This is chump change compared to the cost in the USA. That AUD 50,000 wouldn't even cover a day.

It would certainly be more expensive in the USA, but your not comparing apples with apples!

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I hope this guy somehow makes it but when you are in a position where you've had multiple brain operations, that's never a particularly good sign.

I share your reservations

His history suggests his future may well be compromised

I truly hope I am wrong and that he recovers well

I knew somewhere in there before I finish reading it they have a go fund set up I don’t know I keep full coverage insurance on me if I’m in a different country my insurance covers me how many these people come here if they don’t have any insurance did they have an accident go fund time

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Another motorcycle rider who thinks they'll never have a serious accident on a motorcycle.

If you believe, it will never happen.

WINNING 😄

No, I've never owned a motorcycle. Be careful: your imagination is playing tricks on you, probably not for the first time. Keep it under control🫣🫣🫣

the daughter looks like angelina julie

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Eeeeh? 135k baht versus $600k????

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Eeeeh? 135k baht versus $600k????

SURE! What drugs are you on? They seem to be fantastic.

No, he's not on drugs.

SURE! What drugs are you on? They seem to be fantastic.

6 hours ago, Olmate said:

Got your $$ and bht wrong there kamper Ken or your full of BS!

No, the extreme price differential is quite common! Some years ago I had an extremely violent headache, which was diagnosed through a brain scan at the local military hospital as a brain haemorrhage and I was advised to have the operation at Hua Hin General or a private one. The quote from one of HH's private hospital was 1 million Baht for the operation and 1million for "aftercare". I was in my 70's at the time and didn't have health insurance. I was transfered by ambulance to HUA HIN GENERAL and was operated on the same evening. The neuro surgeon visited me twice a day including weekends for 7 days before I was discharged. The bill for both hospitals came to just over 80,000Baht.

It is more than likely that the same neuro surgeon would have been the same person that would have operated on me at the private hospital as neuro surgeons are not in abundance. My recovery time was spent on the general ward not in a private room so this reduced the cost but HH General have in the past 5 year completely refurbished the General wards to a very high standard. Private hospitals are fine, but by hell they know how to charge; excessively in my opinion.

7 hours ago, damo1967 said:

Maybe that is why the daughter is not giving any details about the 'accident'.

No Insurance, drunk, no licence, no Helmet, drugs in system maybe? (a total loser if he did not learn from 2025 accident... a deadbeat)

I was going to donate 5 thb to this loser, but have decided to keep my 5 thb.

The guy's famliy can take out 2nd or 3rd mortgages for him if they love him so much.

A better idea though: cancel the GoFundMe, turn off the machines he is on at hospital, let him pass away, hire a tuk tuk for 300 thb and dump him outside a Temple... they will then look after him and burn him.. (end of story)

Again, what a total loser!!!!!!! A lot of GoFundMe's are for patient's family to help them pay off their own mortgages. They 'use' relative's conditions for their own selfish purposes.

jesus. you must be a joy to be around at the pub with all your friends not

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