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Bold Prediction 2.0 --NO crackdown on visa agents in the next 5 years

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That was the income method though.

You can't change from agent bank to legit bank without getting a new visa.

Ahh. "now getting a new visa". Did you mention that previously, I think not. New visa is no problem, anyone on OA would change to O that way in any event®️!

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    You’re the only one losing sleep over it. Those who have the funds have absolutely nothing to worry about.

  • You do realise that the majority of the Agents fee goes directly to immigration coffers, and over a day, week, month, year that is a very substantial amount, so that method will probably never die out

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30 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Ahh. "now getting a new visa". Did you mention that previously, I think not. New visa is no problem, anyone on OA would change to O that way in any event®️!

Yes mentioned before.

Not a problem. EASY for you to say.

That depends on a person's specific situation and the current environment for getting a new O visa is abroad, or if there starts to be a push to push people back th their home country to do that.

One thing we do know though -- it has become objectively MUCH HARDER to do a conversion to an O visa within Thailand in recent years and ironically often requires an agent to help make that happen.

On 8/30/2026 at 12:15 PM, couchpotato said:

You do realise that the majority of the Agents fee goes directly to immigration coffers, and over a day, week, month, year that is a very substantial amount, so that method will probably never die out.

But I read it on here June 4 Thailand News from one the Agents Я Us gang:

The 15-25k baht fee is the retribution for the agent to find and provide convincing arguments to the IMM official proving there's a legitimate reason to waive the 800k requirement.

Interestingly enough, eloquent agents are 100% persuasive.

But over on the Visa forum one of the resident experts said:

Unless the law also says what "legitimate" is, that part is irrelevant. It's left up to the immigration officer's discretion to determine what legitimate means. So if the office determines 10,000 baht backhander means it's legitimate, then it is.

NB If it is legitimate, why is it referred to as a backhander?

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On 8/30/2026 at 11:51 AM, Jingthing said:

Maybe through this discussion we've identified a logical reason why they wouldn't do the crackdown.

The resulting expat earthquake would be momentous to a degree they wouldn't want and also there would be a lot of bad international press suggesting Thailand isn't a stable choice for expat retirement.

Define momentous and earthquake. There an estimated 400 to 500k people on non imm o and non imm oa based on modeling. Only a fraction of that would be using an agent for financials.

Visa agents help Farangs who are low income (<65K thb/m) or too poor (<800K thb available for deposit into Thai bank).

Nothing wrong with being low income and poor. 🌴

8 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Visa agents help Farangs who are low income (<65K thb/m) or too poor (<800K thb available for deposit into Thai bank).

Visa agents solicit a bribe from Farangs who are low income (<65K thb/m) or too poor (<800K thb available for deposit into Thai bank).

I have the 800,000 in the bank. I use a Visa Agent who charges me 2,500 Baht for full service: pickup at home, doing all the paperwork, no more than 45 minutes at Immigration, then delivered back home again.
The Immigration Officers love these guys because they streamline the work. The officers know that the Agents will deliver all the correct paperwork, properly signed, so they can quickly do their part and move on to the next person.
Sure, some unscrupulous Agents pay unscrupulous immigration officers under the table. No doubt about that. But in reality, what percentage of people need that service and are willing to pay 15,000-20,000 Baht to an agent for what amounts to an hour of paperwork and an hour of waiting at the immigration office?
Then, my real question is, wouldn't every agent in the office and all the immigration assistants need to be in on the take? It's not realistic to give one person money and expect the entire office to be corrupt. From the Document Checkers outside the building to the Document Checkers INSIDE the building, the young college kids Immigration Assistants all corrupt? Because when my agent arrives, these checkers just quickly scan the papers and send him along. No double and triple reading through each page. They trust that the agents will do it correctly, which speeds up the workflow. The first 6-10 people called for photos in the first half hour: in, out, and gone. All legit. Those are the people using agents. Then it slows down to 4-5 an hour being processed because the officers need to review and study every page carefully.
If you are following the rules, an agent speeds things up, and removes all the pressure of visa renewal.

6 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

I have the 800,000 in the bank. I use a Visa Agent who charges me 2,500 Baht for full service: pickup at home, doing all the paperwork, no more than 45 minutes at Immigration, then delivered back home again.

That's nice but what is obviously the gist here is the 'discretionary' type extension of stay arrangements.

20 minutes ago, JerryM said:

That's nice but what is obviously the gist here is the 'discretionary' type extension of stay arrangements.

By 'discretionary,' you mean illegal, right? Let's call it what it is.
Do you have any figures to show how prevalent this practice is? Or only hearing second- or third-hand that 'somebody's friend's brother' got his visa without having money in the bank?

We've all 'heard' about it being done. Lots of people like to talk. But in 25yrs here, I've never actually met anyone who has done it. Perhaps I just don't hang out with the criminal element.

11 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

I've never actually met anyone who has done it. Perhaps I just don't hang out with the criminal element.

Or read the VISA Forum where they say the agent for 15,000 baht will 'COVER' your 800K.

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1 minute ago, JerryM said:

Or read the VISA Forum where they say the agent for 15,000 baht will 'COVER' your 800K.

Yes, I've 'read' that, and I've 'heard' that, but I've never heard it from anyone who has actually done it. It's all anecdotal as far as I can see. No facts. No firsthand experiential reports. Just comments on Social Media. I have plenty of farang friends and acquaintances in various financial brackets, many using visa agents, so after 25 years here, I'd imagine I'd run into at least one who has. I saw a couple who had to leave the Kingdom because they didn't have the funds. Why didn't they just use an agent? Could it be that they couldn't find one who would risk flaunting Immigration law?

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