Thai Birth Certificate

[TommiePhanom]

Hello,

I know this question has been probably asked several times before but I'm still at a loss of what I can do. I was born on in Nongkhai Thailand in 1980 and moved to the US 2 months after I was born. My family was staying in a refugee camp before my birth and I am not sure which one it was as well. I believe I was born in Nongkhai Hospital but my parents told me that I do not have a birth certificate from them. All I have to prove my birth is my Permanent Resident Alien Card for the US and I really haven't needed a birth certificate for anything because the US accepts my green card as proof of birth. I'm finally planning on becoming a US citizen within the next few months so then I'll have a naturalization paper and what not, so that would count as a "birth certificate" as well. But how do I go about getting my Thai birth certificate? My fiance in Australia says that I will definitely need one in Australia if I am going to go live there for a while. So, this is pretty much a two part question...

How do I get my Thai birth certificate?

Is having the Thai birth certificate really that important in other countries if you have other documents that are equivalent like a permanent resident card?

Thanks

[crewcut]

Your parents should have been given a document by the hospital when you were born. This should then have been taken to the local Umphur Office to register and get a birth certificate. If this was not done then I don't think the Umphur Office will have any record of you. I suggest you start at the hospital you were born at, I would have thought that they will have a record of all people born there.

Many people were and are still born at home in Thailand and in these cases a registered doctor or midwife will sign a document?

You could also contact the Thai Embassy and ask them.

CC.

[Heng]

Yeah, contact the Thai Embassy or consulate and they should be able to help you. Hopefully at least one of your parents are still alive and will be able to go with you. I didn't even have to show up to get my Thai birth certificate... my parents (both Thai) just walked into the Thai consulate in LA and took care of it while us kids were at Disneyland.

You use this Thai birth cert. to be added to your house registry here in Thailand and use that house registry to get your Thai ID card.

*once in awhile they'll ask for a copy of your birth cert. to verify authenticity and ask you to come back in a week or so before they issue you your ID card.

Edited October 2, 2007 by Heng

[Thanyaburi Mac]

Hello,

I know this question has been probably asked several times before but I'm still at a loss of what I can do. I was born on in Nongkhai Thailand in 1980 and moved to the US 2 months after I was born. My family was staying in a refugee camp before my birth and I am not sure which one it was as well. I believe I was born in Nongkhai Hospital but my parents told me that I do not have a birth certificate from them. All I have to prove my birth is my Permanent Resident Alien Card for the US and I really haven't needed a birth certificate for anything because the US accepts my green card as proof of birth. I'm finally planning on becoming a US citizen within the next few months so then I'll have a naturalization paper and what not, so that would count as a "birth certificate" as well. But how do I go about getting my Thai birth certificate? My fiance in Australia says that I will definitely need one in Australia if I am going to go live there for a while. So, this is pretty much a two part question...

How do I get my Thai birth certificate?

Is having the Thai birth certificate really that important in other countries if you have other documents that are equivalent like a permanent resident card?

Thanks

Tommie

I just send you a PM, how about getting back to me on my email address.

FYI, for others, the Thai Government did NOT issue birth certificates for Indochinese refugees in those days, therefore NO record at the amphur and Thai embassies overseas can't help.  It is, however, possible that UNHCR can issue a letter attesting to the file record of the family concerned.  There was a similar instance of this problem a few months back with a Cambodian gal now living in Oz.  Worked this out OK and she got the UNHCR letter.

Mac

[Heng]

Oh, I didn't see that 'refugee' part. Yeah, that's a little tougher. You'd need to have relatives here in place who'd allow you into their house registry and who have have minor relations/connections with the local amphur. Any amphur can make you a citizen if you can pass for local.

[lopburi3]

OP is not Thai and parents were not Thai from indications so it is not a Thai question - it is a question of entry/requirements for Oz and will move to proper section.

As said above there should be other authority that can provide paperwork to replace birth certificate requirement.

[samran]

OP is not Thai and parents were not Thai from indications so it is not a Thai question - it is a question of entry/requirements for Oz and will move to proper section.

As said above there should be other authority that can provide paperwork to replace birth certificate requirement.

You haven't mentioned either if you have actually checked with the Australian embassy in Washington DC either. Australia took in, and continues to take in refugees from many war torn parts of the world, so not having a BC is probably a common 'problem' that the Australian authorities come across, and I dare say that they would have a solution.

Suggest you call the embassy in Washington and ask to speak to a person from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. Alternatively, you can start reseaching at www.immi.gov.au.

[samran]

amazing what 5 minutes can turn up:

http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/_pdf/checklist-spouse.pdf

see page three. Birth certificate of the applicant not required but alternate govt issed papers are acceptable:

If you do not have a birth certificate and are unable to get one, you must provide a certified copy of the identification pages of at least one of the following documents:

• passport

•family book showing both parents’ names

•identification document issued by the government

•document issued by a court that verifies your identity

If you are unable to provide one of these documents, you must provide other acceptable evidence that you are who you claim to be.

[TommiePhanom]

Wow. Thank you all so much for the help! I can finally breath a lot better now that there are people that know some places to actually look for. Thanks again everyone that helped.