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After listening to many of the Pattaya farangs talking in bars, I am surprised and disappointed by the number who try to persuade girls not to wear condoms. This is disgustingly irresponsible, immature, and dangerous. It just goes to show that these men do not give a shit about anyone but thmselves. They are nothing but scum. There are in fact over fouteen different types of sexually transmitted diseases. Although about two-thirds of these are easily cleared up once detected, many go undetected and the consequences, especialy for women, can be severe. For a handful, there is no cure. We all know about the obvious - HIV and syphillis - but there are others that can be fatal especially Hep B and Hep C (which are 30 times easier to catch than HIV). The other third of STDs can lie dormant for years and years silently causing damage, such as Herpes (most people don't know there are two types) that live in the spine, and of course syphilis. Some men use the excuse that they can't wear a condom because it desroys the feeling, or they can't get it up properly. These men never seem to get themselves frequently checked out, but yet they expect the girls to do so. ###### hypocrites. The worst type of man is aware of the dangers but still goes ahead, and worse, they try to persuade vulnerable girls, some who are too afraid to say no, or feel prssurised because of poverty. Take heed.

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Yes, I agree. And yet these men are always talking about the high standards back home and critising the Thais as if they have superior standards. They are hypocrites. Also, some STDs, even minor ones, if undetected contain bacteria and protozoa that can cause huge prostate problems in men (affecting libido and energy levels) and pelvic imflammatory disorders in women (affecting their fertility). And these are just minor STDs. Sinbad

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Most bar-girls are far more sensible than most drunken slobs that live in Pattaya bars. They will insist on protection.

When I ran a bar in Patong Beach I made sure all the girls had a supply with them, and made sure that they charged 150 baht extra, if the guy had none himself. They soon learnt the sensible way to go.

I also loudly identified punters who tried to make the girls ride bareback. Didn't want them in my bar.

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I disagree. Most people don't know the risks, especially statistically. And most people haven't heard of about 70% of sexually transmited diseases. There are new ones being discovered every year. And of the ones that already exist, as micro-biologists point out, they are constantly mutating in order to survive, so that some which were once easily curable are harder to cure, or even detect in some cases. People only know the obvious like HIV. Aks people about Chanceroid, Chlamydia and the effects of certain types of bacterial non-specific Urethitis on the Prostate - and hence the negative effect on libido/sex drive and energy levels (as Sinbad mentioned), and they've no idea. And that's just the men who are meant to be educated. The girls don't have a clue.

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How do you get chlamydia and how common is it?

It is commonly passed on when you have sex with an infected person. About 1 in 20 sexually active women in the UK are infected with chlamydia. It is most common in women under 25. Many women are not aware that they are infected as it often causes no symptoms. You can be infected with chlamydia for months, even years, without realising it.

These UK guys should know better considering Chlamydia is rife in the UK, mind you, most can't get a shag at home anyway.

Can you catch Chlamydia through masturbation? :o

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Most bar-girls are far more sensible than most drunken slobs that live in Pattaya bars. They will insist on protection.

When I ran a bar in Patong Beach I made sure all the girls had a supply with them, and made sure that they charged 150 baht extra, if the guy had none himself. They soon learnt the sensible way to go.

I also loudly identified punters who tried to make the girls ride bareback. Didn't want them in my bar.

Smart Man When I was younger I wanted to go and be with a bargirl I never did it Maybe I wanted someone to love me and not just have fun I'm 35 now and married I'm glad I never did it. :o I would have protected myself if i did.

My wife's friend he is a Thai man and he frequents prostitutes very much. Or Regular Thai girls. I was in his truck and he had three boxes of condoms in it.

At least he was smart, I understand it does not feel as good with a condom. But you be alive to tell the story.

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i read somewhere or saw on discovery channel that there is a big problem concerning people taking antibiotics. many are given 7 days of medicine but only take them for a few days because the symptoms disappeared, so they think they will save the medication or give it to someone else. the problem can still be there without symptoms and then becomes resistant to that medication. it then is spread back into the world but stronger.

wear a raincoat

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i read somewhere or saw on discovery channel that there is a big problem concerning people taking antibiotics. many are given 7 days of medicine but only take them for a few days because the symptoms disappeared, so they think they will save the medication or give it to someone else. the problem can still be there without symptoms and then becomes resistant to that medication. it then is spread back into the world but stronger.

wear a raincoat

Doh! When my pee stopped burning I figured I was ok! Bloody stds...the rain to my sunny days!

LOL! Not wrapping it up these days is like playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun. Another form of natural selection to weed out the unsuspecting and the clueless. I wonder how much an effect syphillis has on the genes of an unborn child. Must be nice being born with brain syphillis.

Anybody knowingly spreading this filth should be dragged outside, and shot behind the dumpster. Are there really farangs in Thailand doing BG business without condoms? Surely, none of the sane ones.

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The only time I wear condoms is when I play twister, naked, covered in baby oil. It gives one the necessary purchase and torque to get left hand red, right foot yellow.

I hope you close the curtains when this is going on. What a ghastly sight to come upon unsuspecting.

By the sound of it, you and Harry have some wild times.

:o

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I've a friend 35 years old. Every year comes from Europe to Thailand or Philippines (alternate).

30 days having sex twice a day. Drinks loads of GinSeng and other stuff.

Never used a condom.

Every day a different girl or ladyboy

Yes people like him are not so uncommon.

When I asked him about infections he told me: you smoke, you have more chances than me to die!!!

I QUIT SMOKING :o

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I've a friend 35 years old. Every year comes from Europe to Thailand or Philippines (alternate).

30 days having sex twice a day. Drinks loads of GinSeng and other stuff.

Never used a condom.

Every day a different girl or ladyboy

Yes people like him are not so uncommon.

When I asked him about infections he told me: you smoke, you have more chances than me to die!!!

I QUIT SMOKING :o

Can you publish your friend's photo, so that I can pass it round the bars of Pattaya and warn the girls?

I am really surprised (unless he is telling porkies). All the girls I know would insist on rubbers. And that covers a lot of territory. :D

And katoeys as well? Then he has a death wish.

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I've a friend 35 years old. Every year comes from Europe to Thailand or Philippines (alternate).

30 days having sex twice a day. Drinks loads of GinSeng and other stuff.

Never used a condom.

Every day a different girl or ladyboy

Yes people like him are not so uncommon.

When I asked him about infections he told me: you smoke, you have more chances than me to die!!!

I QUIT SMOKING :o

Can you publish your friend's photo, so that I can pass it round the bars of Pattaya and warn the girls?

I am really surprised (unless he is telling porkies). All the girls I know would insist on rubbers. And that covers a lot of territory. :D

And katoeys as well? Then he has a death wish.

FOR 1000 baht the say NO!!! For 3000 Baht they say YES

3000=60 Euro, less than a 10 minutes prostitute inside your car in Europe.

For him is a bargain.

When back to Europe, you can see him every Sunday in Church with his parents.

His brother is one of my best friends, married, 2 kids. This guy has something wrong in his brain, when in Europe seldom goes out from home, only office, home and church

I'm not joking!!!

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All you condom lovers, pah!

The fellas are just recreating the film Deer Hunter but with unprotected sex instead of bullets.

Are you telling me Christopher Walken is wrong? If you liberals had your way that film would never have been made!

What?

Christopher Walken died in Deer Hunter?

Go Condoms!

:o

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I've a friend 35 years old. Every year comes from Europe to Thailand or Philippines (alternate).

30 days having sex twice a day. Drinks loads of GinSeng and other stuff.

Never used a condom.

Every day a different girl or ladyboy

Yes people like him are not so uncommon.

When I asked him about infections he told me: you smoke, you have more chances than me to die!!!

I QUIT SMOKING 

Not quite sure I agree with his stats. He is screwing 60 girls in a month all of whom are in the high risk category with no protection. If he find a girl that say "OK" to no-rubber-sex, then she probably has before and is, therefore, in an even higher risk group. :o

Maybe similar to smoking stick of dynamite! :D

Anybody that says they can't feel anything with a condom on are shagging a hole that's too big - eithetr because they are pencil-dicks or because the girl they've picked squats on inverted whisky bottles for a living. Condom are not dunlop radial retreads any more - buy featherlight. If you have a problem getting it up (or keeping it up) get some Viagra. :D

Take condoms with you - the Thai ones are a little tight (and tend to unroll themselves!) - the guys in the 'pencil-dick' category need not worry! :D

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as i suspected... this board is infested with perverted sex-pats who like to discuss the what to do & what not to do with bg's... disgusting, should be ashamed of yourselves...

do the decent thing & get a gf or better still a wife... if there were no sex-pats willing to pay theses girls for their pleasures, then they wouldn't be forced on the game in the first place...

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well in my experiance of pattaya bar gals, it is extremely rare for them to ask me to wear a condom, but then of course i am exceptionally handsome and virile, as for harry, he has ginger hair so his dr made him have a vasectomy, unfortuneately the op was misunderstood and he was castrated, still the world will be a better place in our childrens life times with out these ginger haired ppl wandering about :o

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Harry P, you are kidding arn't you.

A) Giving advise on safe sex does not make us sex-fiends. A doctor doesn't have to have a disease to treat it. A marriage councillor doesn't have to be a divorcee, or even married, to give advise. A teacher informing his students of the dangers of teenage pregancy and STD's doesn't make him/her a peadophile. Why should someone saying 'wear a condom' be a "perverted sex-pat".

Its idiotic statements like this that stops sex education over the world, that does nothing to halt the alarming spread of teenage pregnacy and STD's.

:o You have it backwards. Sex-Pats (your term) do not go to Thailand and create a sex industry. Sex-Pats go to Thailand because there IS a sex industry. By far the biggest customer base for Thai prositutes is the Thai male population.

I have never been with a prosistute (BG or otherwise), yet I still condone the wearing of condoms for those that do. Stopping those that do is another issue that does not belong in this thread; helping to curb the spread of unwanted pregnancy and disease does belong in this thread and it is this that people have posted on.

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I would hazard a guess here and say that condom use is practised more in Thailand than the UK.

There are probably also more STI infected people per capita at any one time in the UK.

UK girls are filthy. They don't even shower after you squirt them. :o

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as i suspected... this board is infested with perverted sex-pats who like to discuss the what to do & what not to do with bg's... disgusting, should be ashamed of yourselves...

do the decent thing & get a gf or better still a wife... if there were no sex-pats willing to pay theses girls for their pleasures, then they wouldn't be forced on the game in the first place...

I have a TGF and this was advice for others! :o

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