Access To 'adsl Modem' Vs 'adsl Router'

[triffid]

I'm having a problem with some services on my online banking. The bank says this can be remedied if I use adsl with a modem and not a router - alternatively it gives some suggestions on how to make adjustments on the router. I am clueless on these matters; but need the online access urgently. Can someone please help me in locating adsl modem internet that would be available to me in Pattaya?

[sweetchariot]

I must be more dumb than I thought, I thought 'router' was just an Americanism for 'modem', probably because the way it is pronounced - ROWter, rather than ROOter which would be the correct English.

I will be watching the replies from the tech savvies with interest, and no jokes about 'rooters' please

[kdf]

Hello,

Actually route can be pronounced both ways.

More to the point ADSL doesn't use a modem, modulator demodulator, but for convenience they are so called.

ROWTERS route packets and can often have many features such as NAT. If you can access the Internet I am not sure why you should have problems with online banking.

A possibility is some form of security that the bank has. I have heard of Network Address Translation causing some problems, but I do not see how.

There are others more in the know than me on this forum.

I wish you good luck with this.

kdf

[sweetchariot]

Hello,

Actually route can be pronounced both ways.

Hi KDF,

a router - pronounced ROWter in the English language is a carpentry tool that routs, used for cutting channels into the surface of wood, whereas a router - pronounced ROOter is a person or thing that routes (ROOts). I can understand the confusion, as Americans when planning a journey would call the plan their route (ROWT), wheras the correct English is route (ROOT).

This is not to be confused with rooters - people who root, as this is a whole new topic which you are not allowed to discuss on TV.

Maybe we can discuss it over a beer on one of your Friday nighters. Do you think they will give me a highly paid job as an English teacher in LOS now?

[tropo]

More to the point ADSL doesn't use a modem, modulator demodulator, but for convenience they are so called.

To access the Internet via ADSL, of course you need a modem. It's called an ADSL MODEM.

Most of our "modems" or "routers" are actually modem/routers or ADSL Modem + router.

The modem receives the ADSL signal through the telephone line and then the router sends the data to your computer.

If you set up your modem/router as a "bridge", then it's acting exclusively as a modem and you need to connect to a seperate router. I do this myself with a wireless router connected to an ADSL modem acting as a bridge.

[kdf]

Hello,

Actually route can be pronounced both ways.

Hi KDF,

a router - pronounced ROWter in the English language is a carpentry tool that routs, used for cutting channels into the surface of wood, whereas a router - pronounced ROOter is a person or thing that routes (ROOts). I can understand the confusion, as Americans when planning a journey would call the plan their route (ROWT), wheras the correct English is route (ROOT).

This is not to be confused with rooters - people who root, as this is a whole new topic which you are not allowed to discuss on TV.

Maybe we can discuss it over a beer on one of your Friday nighters. Do you think they will give me a highly paid job as an English teacher in LOS now?

I may need more explanation of the human router configuration. Beers are good. Fridays are good.

There is a thread in this forum that will let you know where we plan to start on any given Friday.

Hope to see there.

BTW, we usually start at a restaurant that is wife/girlfriend friendly, and then go on to whatever.

kdf

[kdf]

More to the point ADSL doesn't use a modem, modulator demodulator, but for convenience they are so called.

To access the Internet via ADSL, of course you need a modem. It's called an ADSL MODEM.

Most of our "modems" or "routers" are actually modem/routers or ADSL Modem + router.

The modem receives the ADSL signal through the telephone line and then the router sends the data to your computer.

If you set up your modem/router as a "bridge", then it's acting exclusively as a modem and you need to connect to a seperate router. I do this myself with a wireless router connected to an ADSL modem acting as a bridge.

Hi tropo,

I had always been told that cable "modems" and dsl "modems" did not actually modulate and demodulate a frequency, but were called modems due to the common use of that term in the Modulator Demodulators over POTS systems. Doesn't matter much, just words.

However, I was interested in how you setup your system with the AdSL device set to bridge and your wireless router. I have not been happy with my attempts to get my wireless router to work with ADSL router provided by Maxnet. I can go hardwire to the wireless device and hardwire to the ADSL device w/o problem. However when I go wireless getting DHCP to asine an IP adress it only happens part of the time. I have been using my wireless router to act as an access point with its DHCP and many other features turned off. I believe since it will work hardwired that it is a problem setup of the wireless card, or some strange voodoo incompatibility.

Any more info?

[tropo]

Any more info?

The reason I bridge to my wireless router is because I need to have ports forwarded to enable fast bittorrent downloads. You can't do this through a wireless router connected to a modem.

If you go into your ADSL modem (supplied by Maxnet) interface (usually 192.168.1.1) you should easily be able to set up that device in "bridge mode". When it has been set to "bridge mode", you'll no longer be able to access it through your web browser. (If you ever need to set it up in normal mode again, you'll have to reset it to factory defaut settings first). From here on in you'll hardly touch this device except to turn it off and on.

Once it's in bridge mode, just connect it to your wireless router via LAN and use your wireless router as the modem. You'll access this through the browser interface (possibly 192.168.0.1 - check the guide) and use the setup wizard to configure it and put in your maxnet username and password. This is the only device you'll need to communicate with from now on. It simplifies everything and you can set port forwarding in your wirelss router/modem.

It's a lot more straight forward to have only one device that you need to communicate with.

If these devices don't work as expected, you could purchase a wireless router/modem combination and really simplify things even more.

[grahamhc]

Hi KDF,

a router - pronounced ROWter in the English language is a carpentry tool that routs, used for cutting channels into the surface of wood, whereas a router - pronounced ROOter is a person or thing that routes (ROOts). I can understand the confusion, as Americans when planning a journey would call the plan their route (ROWT), wheras the correct English is route (ROOT).

This is not to be confused with rooters - people who root, as this is a whole new topic which you are not allowed to discuss on TV.

This reminds me of a quotation that "England and the USA were divded by a common language"

Not only did Henry Ford put the steering wheel on the "Other" side of the car, he made people drive on the pavement, which all Brits know is what we call the bit where we walk (Sidewalk to Americans). Now Thailand sorted out the problem by extending their businesses onto the "Pavements" so you now have to walk in the roadway, which the Americans had called pavement in readiness for the Thais....

[Jale]

Any more info?

The reason I bridge to my wireless router is because I need to have ports forwarded to enable fast bittorrent downloads. You can't do this through a wireless router connected to a modem.

If you go into your ADSL modem (supplied by Maxnet) interface (usually 192.168.1.1) you should easily be able to set up that device in "bridge mode". ...

The catch 22 is that my modem at address 192.168.1.1 is name/password protected and that is not the name/pwd provided to sign up to the Maxnet service. Any idea?

[tropo]

Any more info?

The reason I bridge to my wireless router is because I need to have ports forwarded to enable fast bittorrent downloads. You can't do this through a wireless router connected to a modem.

If you go into your ADSL modem (supplied by Maxnet) interface (usually 192.168.1.1) you should easily be able to set up that device in "bridge mode". ...

The catch 22 is that my modem at address 192.168.1.1 is name/password protected and that is not the name/pwd provided to sign up to the Maxnet service. Any idea?

If maxnet provided you with a new modem/router, then the password for the browser interface (192.168.1.1) should be set at the factory default that will be indicated in the manual for your particular modem/router. I have a modem purchased from TT&T and the user name was "admin" and password "1234".

If your modem/router is not new then you can solve this problem by restoring it to factory default. Usually modem/routers have a reset hole at the back. Just stick in a paperclip and hold it down for about 10 seconds as you power up. There maybe a different reset sequence for your particular modem, which will be indicated in the manual.

[Jale]

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If maxnet provided you with a new modem/router, then the password for the browser interface (192.168.1.1) should be set at the factory default that will be indicated in the manual for your particular modem/router. I have a modem purchased from TT&T and the user name was "admin" and password "1234".

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Thank you, that worked!

[tropo]

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If maxnet provided you with a new modem/router, then the password for the browser interface (192.168.1.1) should be set at the factory default that will be indicated in the manual for your particular modem/router. I have a modem purchased from TT&T and the user name was "admin" and password "1234".

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Thank you, that worked!

I'm glad I could help.