Australian Aged Pension

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, rhodie said:

So you think stopping overseas pensions after 4 weeks will save less than $20M a year? Go back to school scaremonger! They are talking about the current scheme of 6 weeks being reduced to 4 weeks for reducing some payments.

 

Another brain fart from KH.

Another member posted it on another thread.  I posted the direct link to their costings. 

 

The words are, "Overseas eligibility for social services payments – reduce to four weeks."  Now, if you think that reads just for pension supplements, then that's up to you, but the words "social services payments" with an emphasis on the word "payments" as opposed to "supplements" reads different to me. 

 

Google "Dutton to cut pensions after 4 weeks if overseas" and you will see the Facebook pages of some Labor MP's pushing it out on their social media.   They are at the top of page 1 on that Google search.  

 

The title of one is, "Peter Dutton will stop your age pension if you go overseas."  That's from Steve Georganas MP who holds the seat of  Adelaide.  Now, maybe, just maybe, do you think he's well informed about it before he goes public? 

 

If you think it's just the supplements that will stop after 4 weeks instead of 6 weeks, good for you, but I would call your "interpretation" a brain fart.  

 

[Nemises]

17 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Playing the poster and not the post. 

 

Any comment on the Liberal's policy?  Perhaps you think it will only apply to guys like Paul Hogan. 

Still waiting for your previous, relentless scaremongering campaign about non resident tax rates to be legislated. How much longer you think?  🤣🤣🤣

[KhunHeineken]

12 minutes ago, Nemises said:

Still waiting for your previous, relentless scaremongering campaign about non resident tax rates to be legislated. How much longer you think?  🤣🤣🤣

The previous Liberal government proposed them, and the current Labor government DID NOT bin them.

 

  https://www.afr.com/policy/tax-and-super/assistant-treasurer-flags-new-tax-residency-rules-20220826-p5bd1v

 

"Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones told an Australian Chamber of Commerce event in Singapore this week the new rules for deciding Australian tax residency were in “the government’s in-tray” ahead of the October budget, and the day limit was “being looked at." 

 

It appears it's not if, just when, and the who doesn't really matter. 

 

I don't know how much longer, but in my opinion the proposed changes haven't just gone away.  The current laws are 90 years old and are no longer fit for purpose.  It's only a matter of time before they are modernized. 

 

Geez, Thailand even has the 180 day law, with many other countries having a similar tax residency model, but you seem to think Australia will never bring in a 183 day law.  It's laughable.  

[KhunHeineken]

2 hours ago, rhodie said:

So you think stopping overseas pensions after 4 weeks will save less than $20M a year? Go back to school scaremonger! They are talking about the current scheme of 6 weeks being reduced to 4 weeks for reducing some payments.

 

Another brain fart from KH.

Amanda Rishworth MP Insta page. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJG40UbzgPz/

 

"Dutton will stop your age pension if you go overseas."

 

 

[rhodie]

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Another member posted it on another thread.  I posted the direct link to their costings. 

 

The words are, "Overseas eligibility for social services payments – reduce to four weeks."  Now, if you think that reads just for pension supplements, then that's up to you, but the words "social services payments" with an emphasis on the word "payments" as opposed to "supplements" reads different to me. 

 

Google "Dutton to cut pensions after 4 weeks if overseas" and you will see the Facebook pages of some Labor MP's pushing it out on their social media.   They are at the top of page 1 on that Google search.  

 

The title of one is, "Peter Dutton will stop your age pension if you go overseas."  That's from Steve Georganas MP who holds the seat of  Adelaide.  Now, maybe, just maybe, do you think he's well informed about it before he goes public? 

 

If you think it's just the supplements that will stop after 4 weeks instead of 6 weeks, good for you, but I would call your "interpretation" a brain fart.  

 

 As I said, go back to school. $25,000 times 800 pensioners equals $20M. So, according to there are only 800 pensioners living overseas. Haha. Caught out as a scaremonger again. Do you sleep at night? I doubt it.

 

KH caught out again. Will he ever learn from his mommy's basement? I doubt it! You are a fool!

[Olmate]

ABC 730 REPORT last.nite, oppositionHome Affairs Minister.denies.its.costings despite it.being  included, as shown previous.. Now.on.Reddit

[LosLobo]

58 minutes ago, Olmate said:

ABC 730 REPORT last.nite, oppositionHome Affairs Minister.denies.its.costings despite it.being  included, as shown previous.. Now.on.Reddit

Link to the 7:30pm Report....(if you have VPN)...

Australia Votes - Election Eve : ABC iview starts at 13:50:

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2526H003S00

James Paterson for Dutton says Labour is lying ......yet it is in Liberal  Policies.

The policy is vague with the less than $20M saving yet Dutton has never clarified it.

Personally I don't trust Dutton and if he wins the door is open to go whole hog.

[Lacessit]

18 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

 

 

The words are, "Overseas eligibility for social services payments – reduce to four weeks."  Now, if you think that reads just for pension supplements, then that's up to you, but the words "social services payments" with an emphasis on the word "payments" as opposed to "supplements" reads different to me. 

 

 

Of course you would read the worst possible interpretation into what is said, because that's meat and drink to your malevolent nature.

 

This is an Australian Aged Pension thread. You do not receive a Age Pension.

 

Why the moderators have not banned you as an evil troll is beyond my comprehesion.

[KhunHeineken]

15 hours ago, rhodie said:

 As I said, go back to school. $25,000 times 800 pensioners equals $20M. So, according to there are only 800 pensioners living overseas. Haha. Caught out as a scaremonger again. Do you sleep at night? I doubt it.

 

KH caught out again. Will he ever learn from his mommy's basement? I doubt it! You are a fool!

Can you quote the post where I have said there are only 800 pensioners living overseas?  

 

At any given time there are about 1 million Australians living overseas.

 

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/when-you-live-outside-australia?context=60040

 

"At any time there’s around one million Australians living and working overseas."

 

Now, of course not all of the 1 million Aussies living overseas are retired and receiving a pension, but it would be way more than 800 out of 1 million.  For a start, I believe Aussie retirees are in their thousands in Thailand and Bali, then you have all the other countries around the world.  Many are receiving the aged pension. 

 

I think you have caught yourself out, making up figures and then posting as if I posted them.  

 

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Of course you would read the worst possible interpretation into what is said

Why not?  We are talking about politics and politicians.  I don't trust them.

 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

This is an Australian Aged Pension thread. You do not receive a Age Pension.

So what?

 

I may apply for the pension in the future.  My posts are on topic. 

 

You are on a part pension, not the full pension.  Does that mean you can only part post? 

 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Why the moderators have not banned you as an evil troll is beyond my comprehesion.

I see you are trying to bait me again. 

 

Go back to the USA Forum and troll them there.  We even had Americans come to the Australia Forum complaining about you.  

 

Why you haven't been banned is beyond my comprehension.   

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

The policy is vague with the less than $20M saving yet Dutton has never clarified it.

Personally I don't trust Dutton and if he wins the door is open to go whole hog.

I agree. 

 

The wording conflicts with the dollar figure.  So on that basis, if he was to be elected, he could spin that any way he wanted.  He could go "whole hog" as you say and actually cut off pensions if outside of Australia for more than 4 weeks. 

 

I don't think Dutton will get in, but I don't trust any of them. 

 

Regardless of who gets in,  their spending promises was enough to make S&P issue a warning that Australia is at risk of losing its AAA rating.  If that happens, it's 15 baht to the  Aussie dollar. 

[LosLobo]

[KhunHeineken]

39 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

More of the "same same" for the next 4 years.