george Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 PPP urged not to interfere in sign language representing Samak BANGKOK: -- The Council of Disabled People of Thailand Wednesday urged the People Power Party (PPP) not to interfere with how the deaf construct and communicate their sign language. "Any interference would not be appropriate," the council's chairman Wiriya Namsiriphongphan said in response to a query from a PPP member as to whether it was possible to change the way deaf people referred to PPP leader and Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej. During a recent televised parliamentary session, translators touched their nose when Samak's name was mentioned. Samak's nose is widely seen as the most prominent feature on his face. Many PPP members, however, were reportedly upset when they saw the sign. "This is not to mock or to humiliate him. It's just the sign that deaf people can understand," Wiriya insisted yesterday. At the mention of Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva's name, translators moved their hand around their face and give a thumbs up. This sign refers to his initial and the fact that he is good looking. Wiriya said if the PPP wanted to change the way deaf people referred to Samak, it must pay for the cost of holding a seminar attended by hundreds of people in a bid to determine how best to refer to Samak with another sign. -- The Nation 2008-01-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredby30 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 that is life i guess. at 70 yo i am surprised he cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 He's 72 actually, which in pig years is only a deceptively youthful 8 years old.... he's but a mere child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumnien Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 There is a gay subset of Thai signers that is reported to be using a very amusing hand sign for the rather attractive boyish Abhisit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 There is a certain resemblance to the Thai mythical creature Yaksa, however I don’t know if that is good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsExpat2B Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I thought he looked like Jabba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Perhaps we should give him the nickname ‘Bacon.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I think the best sign for him and the rest of the Thaksin puppets would be the good old reversed Churchill 2 fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I agree with 2 fingers..... 2 middle fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 In the middle of this post: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=1790862 is the highly appropriate designated signing language configuration for Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galong Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 What's the big deal. Many Thais have derogatory nick names... this is normal. My wife, who used to a fat child, is called Moo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak sa_ngop Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I doubt if he would like to be called "Sunak" or dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ijustwannateach Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 What was it George Orwell said? By the time a man is 40, he is responsible for his face.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popshirt Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 My very-well-connected Thai friend refers to him as Idi Amin ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbowman1993 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 What's the big deal? He does look like a pig! I have an Aunt who bears a remarkable resemblance to her toy poodle. \ http://www.stacca.org/Fun/Other/PeopleLookLikePets.htm Just for fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) He's 72 actually, which in pig years is only a deceptively youthful 8 years old.... he's but a mere child. I posted this before but it was deemed inappropriate. But since we are now talking of pigs, readers may be already know that Porky Pig is also over 70 years old , continues to amuse people and still enjoys his own cooking show. Here he is seen preparing one of his favorite recipes for one of his Porky Pig Parties. Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental. Edited January 31, 2008 by ratcatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siamesekitty Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I think Porky's a lot cuter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Disabled Peoples Council says sign language for Samak not meant to offend National Legislative Assembly (NLA) member Viriya Namsiriphongphan (วิริยะ นามศิริพงษ์พันธุ์) acting as Chairman of the Disabled People’s Council reacted to news that newly appointed Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej felt it was inappropriate that a gesture in sign language used to symbolize him involved the grabbing of the speaker's nose. Mr. Samak felt that such a gesture, playing off of his prominent physical feature was inappropriate. Members of the People Power Party contacted Mr. Viriya asking if it was possible the Disabled People’s Council could issue an amendment to the gesture but Mr. Viriya stated that as Mr. Samak has been a politician for many years, changing his sign language gesture would create confusion within the deaf community. The NLA member said that to change the sign a seminar would have to be organized inviting hundreds of people to alter the signal gesture. Mr. Virirya assured that the sign was not developed out of disrespect for Mr. Samak or to offend him but that sign language gestures in place of names must be natural and easy to understand. He also said that the gesture makes for ease of communication as it is faster than spelling Mr. Samak’s name. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 31 January 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losangels Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Naw pig is too cute. To me he looks like an old hippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Will he turn out to be a 'wild boar'? ......with those razor sharp tusks that can disembowel a bull terrier. That is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilawadee Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 If we keep it up just a little bit more then I think we have a good chance of elevating the already high standards of the news forum to even greater heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tijnebijn Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I agree with 2 fingers..... 2 middle fingers Oh man ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I agree with 2 fingers..... 2 middle fingers Oh man ! Actually that is taken already. That is the sign for the New York State bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hmmmmmm! Now that you mention it. He does have a big old nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Samak Sundaravej Rose apple, (chompoo) PPP’s Unhappy with Sign Language Symbolizing New PM The People Power Party (PPP) recently expressed its disapproval of a sign language depicting its leader, Samak Sundaravej among deaf individuals by referring to his “enormous” nose as a way of communicating about the new Prime Minister. The Council of Disabled People of Thailand yesterday called on the People Power Party (PPP) not to interfere with the methods of communication among deaf individuals, particularly ways of expressing their sign language. Throughout decades of Samak’s political career, the veteran politician was widely known for his outstanding feature of having a large nose, as most had given him the nickname, “Chompoo” or cherry *or rose* apple, which has similar shapes to a human’s nose. During last week’s televised parliamentary session, each time Samak’s name was mentioned, the sign-language translator would touch his nose to depict the new premier. After seeing the sign, numerous PPP members reportedly were disturbed with the representation. In response to the PPP’s intervention, the council’s chairman, Wiriya Namsiriphongphan argued that it would be inappropriate for the party to interfere with how the deaf communicate their sign language. Wiriya said the translators had no intension to humiliate or mimic Samak, claiming that the new PM’s prominent feature was well understood by deaf people. Meanwhile, Democrats leader Abhisit Vejjajiva was well praised by most as one of the most handsome men in Thai politics. Each time the Democrats leader’s name was mentioned in parliament, the translator would circle one hand around his face and gave a thumb up to symbolize Abhisit’s initial and “good looking” appearance. In case the People Power wishes to change how deaf people refer to Samak, the party must finance the cost of holding a seminar to educate the deaf on new ways of how they should depict the country’s new leader, said Wiriya. - Thailand Outlook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkelbell Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 My very-well-connected Thai friend refers to him as Idi Amin ! Yes, that's true. All my Thai friends have been referring Samak as Idi Amin for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 On behalf of the porcine communities of the world I object to fat nose seeking to be a member of their greater community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Agreed, they're reported to be 'well pigged-off' ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Reading between the lines there appear to be a demand for respect and not earning it. How truly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashacat Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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