Overstay Info

[rafval]

for those interested in info, my friend who was about 8 months overstayed, and who recently posted here for advice and came in for all sorts of childish name calling and hopes that he go to jail as well as false information, just did a visa run to poipet and is now legal again, I hope this doesnt ruin the day of the majority of posters here that seem to frequent a visa forum to kick a person when they are down, but hope it may be of help to others who are unfortunate enough to find themselves in a similar position.

[jstumbo]

I would not say a person is down on their luck, or unfortunate to find themselves in a position of overstaying 8 months. It is just a person who does not care for the laws of the land, thinks that they are above the law and that the law is only for suckers and other people.

[Lite Beer]

that seem to frequent a visa forum to kick a person when they are down, but hope it may be of help to others who are unfortunate enough to find themselves in a similar position.

Unfortunate?

They are in that position because they choose to be.

[abdulrahman]

for those interested in info, my friend who was about 8 months overstayed, and who recently posted here for advice and came in for all sorts of childish name calling and hopes that he go to jail as well as false information, just did a visa run to poipet and is now legal again, I hope this doesnt ruin the day of the majority of posters here that seem to frequent a visa forum to kick a person when they are down, but hope it may be of help to others who are unfortunate enough to find themselves in a similar position.

your friend did not receive false informations,he was made aware of the possible consequences of an overstay of 8 months!

Was he lucky this time?I think yes,and probably will do it again!

Will he be so lucky the next time?Many of us in Thaivisa don't like to take the chance.

[Badbanker]

We are lucky to live in a country that considers overstay is a minor thing and just to take the money and forget about it. We take advantage of the good natured people at the immigration police and continue to overstay.

If you lived in the US, UK or Australia and you overstayed you would be banned from entering that country.

Seems you friend has been lucky! When will he do this again? Maybe next time he will not be so lucky!

I would be very interested to know, how he did a visa run to Poi Phet and then returned immediately to Thailand, as I have never hear of this being done.

BB

[goonerthegooner]

Hey rafval,your friend on an 8 MONTH overstay,how come,is he too lazy,or too pissed all the time too get off his fat arse and do the Visa run??.It's people like him/her that give us law abiding people here in LOS,a bad name.My only regret is he did not get caught on the way too the border.

[rafval]

really, hes just some guy, no point stressing yourselves too much about his insignificant little life, the phycho analysis is quite entertaining tho, cheaper then going to a taroh card reader anyway I supose altho I wouldn't like to say more accurate, but if it relieves the stress thats great, we could call this the thai visa and personality deconstruction forum for stressed out farangs

[Lite Beer]

really, hes just some guy,

No. He is an illegal immigrant. Pure and simple.

[rafval]

really, hes just some guy,

No. He is an illegal immigrant. Pure and simple.

maybe read the opening message again, and comprehend as well if you can stop fantasizing long enough

[Lite Beer]

Is there any point to all this?

Someone close it please.

[rafval]

Is there any point to all this?

Someone close it please.

no, so next time dont bother with your mindless posts, you seem to think you are clever till its turns against you, to the moderators Im happy for you to delete everything after the opening thread when the usual flamers decided to take the topic off course into a personality attack as they always do, some people are interested in the topic, this is the obvious forum on the internet for those that are and I have had personal messages from people that are interested but no body wants to post when they see they are just going to get personal abuse

[Sweet Dreams]

Well then, just detail exactly what your friend did to get Legal at Poipet, that would be of interest, instead of all this trivia - you haven't actually said how he achieved his status. Paid a fine? No fine issued? what?

[PhilHarries]

As others have pointed out he was an illegal plain and simple. If he'd been picked up by the BiB no doubt you'd have been on TV whinging about his treatment at the IDC.

But I have a question. Why did he lose his bottle (nerve)? Once over 6 weeks he's already accrued the maximum fine so what made him bite the bullet and go legal at 8 months? Obviously not a real man otherwise he'd have notched up years of illegality.

[rafval]

Well then, just detail exactly what your friend did to get Legal at Poipet, that would be of interest, instead of all this trivia - you haven't actually said how he achieved his status. Paid a fine? No fine issued? what?

yes, he paid the 20000b of course, and is at the start of the 3 month entry visa cycle or whatever it is called.

my point is that no one is saying its not illegal, I think anyone here realizes that so we dont have to repeat it endlessly, and it may well be the crime of the century and he may well deserve to go to jail altho obviously Thai Imigration dont think so. The point is that if you are an overstayer and you want to get legal then, contrary to the advise given on this forum by people that have no experience in the matter, you dont have to return to your home country and get a new visa, altho that is one option of course

[Crossy]

The point is that if you are an overstayer and you want to get legal then, contrary to the advise given on this forum by people that have no experience in the matter, you dont have to return to your home country and get a new visa, altho that is one option of course

Things would have been VERY different if your friend had been caught on overstay (for example by the visa run bus being pulled by the cops) rather than giving himself up by leaving the country. He WOULD have been detained in the IDC and he WOULD have been deported at his expense to his home country, although once home he likely could have come straight back even without a visa.

I'm not sure if anyone has advocated that you MUST return home for a new visa (although it's often the simplest solution). Getting legal by leaving or visiting immigration is the best advice anyone on overstay can be given.

The is still no valid excuse for any overstay, period!

Edited March 30, 2008 by Crossy

[steve19836]

Well then, just detail exactly what your friend did to get Legal at Poipet, that would be of interest, instead of all this trivia - you haven't actually said how he achieved his status. Paid a fine? No fine issued? what?

yes, he paid the 20000b of course, and is at the start of the 3 month entry visa cycle or whatever it is called.

my point is that no one is saying its not illegal, I think anyone here realizes that so we dont have to repeat it endlessly, and it may well be the crime of the century and he may well deserve to go to jail altho obviously Thai Imigration dont think so. The point is that if you are an overstayer and you want to get legal then, contrary to the advise given on this forum by people that have no experience in the matter, you dont have to return to your home country and get a new visa, altho that is one option of course

Im thankful you shared this information mate. You are doing nothing wrong in posting it and there may even be some good to come out of you doing it. Like you said some other overstayers may choose to come clean and go the legal route which is what we should all abide by, it not our country and we shouldn'y abuse their laws. (Even though they do themselves sometimes). I myself know 2 British nationals, 1 with a 2 year overstay and the other is about 6 months over. They dont agree with the way they believe Thailand make it too difficult to live here indefintely so they have chosen not to go on visa runs. Childish? Pathetic? Lazy? Call it what you like but it is their choice. I have to agree with the original man/woman who posted this in saying the regulars on here are very quick to rip into people and start some rather unnecessary name calling. The person who posted this thread was talking about a 3rd person not actually themselves and they thought it would be of interest to others. Good on them. This is called the thaivisa.com is it not? He/she merely gave some bloody interesting news I think. I would have thought immediate arrest and deportation would have been in order for the person who overstayed that late.

[jstumbo]

The reason that people do not like overstayers is that it just makes it tougher on the people that want to stay here legally.

Just like the people who repeatedly got 30 visa exempt entries led to the 90 in 6 month rule.

Just like the people that repeatedly got tourist visas led consulates to start rejecting applications.

Just like the people that borrowed money to meet the 800K baht requirement for retirement visas led to the need to have the money in the bank 3 months early.

With everyone getting ed visas now and multi b visas, it is just going to be a matter of time before they make it more difficult for people getting those visas.

Any time people abuse or work the system, they will come out with ways to try to stop it.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

The topic is a waste of space. Closed.