European Cup Final - Plan B

[kopite]

PLEASE NOTE: THE FOLLOWING POST IS NOT MINE

Rumour (cannot reveal source obviously - source is not LFC) that Plan B is being discussed by the following - UEFA, FA, Russian FA, LFC, Chelsea, Man Utd, Home Office, Foriegn Office, Russian Government. various Police Forces, Local Government +.

Plan B will be considered if it is an All English Final.

It involves the following:

NO game in Moscow.

Wembley Stadium is not available that week due to other things in Brent.

2 legged final - like old UEFA Cup - away goals rule will not apply to avoid moaning about it - draw = penalties.

Probable Monday and Thursday of week beginning 19th May.

ticket prices will be hiked up (£80 cheapest possibly) - still cheaper than travelling to Russia. This is an accepted view by all 3 clubs. £160 to attend both games is much cheaper than what you pay to go to Moscow.

combined attendance will be approx. 100,000.

10% of capacity to away club.

clubs will not keep gate receipts

compensation package to Russian FA etc.

This plan has been put together by the various organisations but the prime mover was initially the Foriegn Office and stems from the worries they have of crowd trouble and the diplomatic relationship strains following Litvenyenko (spelling!) and the fact they will not be able to assist with any situations.

The following have expressed these views:

All Police Forces - fearful of massive problems for either LFC or Chelsea v Man Utd; they would have no liaison whatsoever with their Russian counterparts unlike what they would normally expect in a consultation role.

Government - see above about Foriegn Office

UEFA - major headaches about English fans and would be prepared to bite the bullet as it would save them potential disaster and hassle (visa's etc); Athens has been mentioned and they are listening to the governments; they have a major issue about the strained relationship between UK Government and Russian Government - in fact they are petrified.

FA - worried about fans safety and hooligan issues; they say potential for problems with Russian fans (even if Barcelona get through) but that can not be used as a reason; worried about World Cup bid - English fighting English abroad.

Russian Government - very reluctant to speak to anyone English; Chelsea's stooges have done a lot of mediating; basically they dont want the hassle of it and can do without it at the moment; they seem to be happy with UEFA compensation package.

Chelsea - very surprising; Abramovich is worried (he would know a bit) about 50-60,000 Englisg fans in Moscow; they are trying to build brand Chelsea in Russia and fear the problems far outweigh the the potential $£; club issues with visa's and fan safety.

Liverpool - very worried after Athens debacle; lack of trust in UEFA organisation.

Man Utd - no surpirse here - there view about safety issues, admin problems was dwarfed by their reluctance to the plan - they are convinced that UEFA will do everything possible to make sure Barcelona get through to avoid having to use Plan B; they also wanted to keep a % of the gate receipt as they will get a bigger attendance.

Meetings are taking place at a rapid rate and the 3 Local Grounds are applying for safety certificates as a must requirement.

No one will know until the 2nd leg at Old Trafford on 29th April but watch this space as things progress and leaks will happen.

[MSingh]

I predict big problems in Moscow if it's a Liverpool V Man Utd Final...

But you don't really have to be a Rocket Scientist to work that out..

[Sunderland]

According to my source Ivano Idiaeitaenko from the Kremlin, the final will still be held in Moscow regardless of the outcome of the semi-finals.

[mrtoad]

I certainly hope that the adminstrators, plod and civil servants don't get their way. Two legged Final, what a load of BS.

Tossers, the lot of them.

[redrus]

No way it will be moved....!

Nice try though....

redrus

[The Vulcan]

I doubt plan B will be necessary.

I mean, Liverpool v Barcelona shouldn't be a problem

[redrus]

I doubt plan B will be necessary.

I mean, Liverpool v Barcelona shouldn't be a problem

Well no, it won't be will it, they don't do third and fourth place games....

redrus

[The Vulcan]

Touché

[mrtoad]

Touché

Yeash, and it ain't the Champions league if those two ended up in the final, more like the "keep in touch with the runners up in the league and hope we fluke it on a one off evening cup."

[scousemouse]

I doubt plan B will be necessary.

I mean, Liverpool v Barcelona shouldn't be a problem

Well no, it won't be will it, they don't do third and fourth place games....

redrus

dear oh dear , getting nervous are we .

the mancs would have played in that game last year .

[mrtoad]

I doubt plan B will be necessary.

I mean, Liverpool v Barcelona shouldn't be a problem

Well no, it won't be will it, they don't do third and fourth place games....

redrus

dear oh dear , getting nervous are we .

the mancs would have played in that game last year .

Nah, I'm pretty sue thought that you'll beat Chelski.

[LKIBA]

I doubt plan B will be necessary.

I mean, Liverpool v Barcelona shouldn't be a problem

Well no, it won't be will it, they don't do third and fourth place games....

theres no chance that EUFA will change the venue blatter, platini and co will not pass the opportunity to ban as many english clubs as they possibly can, as this is no1 objective, take it from me i know the real truth about the heysel disaster my best pal was 1 of the guys made an example of by the adorable maggie and he was not a liverpool fan he was west ham ICF. i know the real truth about that tragic day and certainaly the italians should have got double punishment from EUFA taking into account what liverpool got. 100% sure its gonna be a massive fans battle whatever 2 english teams get to the final the russian football hooligans will make shure of that

redrus

dear oh dear , getting nervous are we .

the mancs would have played in that game last year .

Nah, I'm pretty sue thought that you'll beat Chelski.

[LKIBA]

PLEASE NOTE: THE FOLLOWING POST IS NOT MINE

Rumour (cannot reveal source obviously - source is not LFC) that Plan B is being discussed by the following - UEFA, FA, Russian FA, LFC, Chelsea, Man Utd, Home Office, Foriegn Office, Russian Government. various Police Forces, Local Government +.

Plan B will be considered if it is an All English Final.

It involves the following:

NO game in Moscow.

Wembley Stadium is not available that week due to other things in Brent.

2 legged final - like old UEFA Cup - away goals rule will not apply to avoid moaning about it - draw = penalties.

Probable Monday and Thursday of week beginning 19th May.

ticket prices will be hiked up (£80 cheapest possibly) - still cheaper than travelling to Russia. This is an accepted view by all 3 clubs. £160 to attend both games is much cheaper than what you pay to go to Moscow.

combined attendance will be approx. 100,000.

10% of capacity to away club.

clubs will not keep gate receipts

compensation package to Russian FA etc.

This plan has been put together by the various organisations but the prime mover was initially the Foriegn Office and stems from the worries they have of crowd trouble and the diplomatic relationship strains following Litvenyenko (spelling!) and the fact they will not be able to assist with any situations.

The following have expressed these views:

All Police Forces - fearful of massive problems for either LFC or Chelsea v Man Utd; they would have no liaison whatsoever with their Russian counterparts unlike what they would normally expect in a consultation role.

Government - see above about Foriegn Office

UEFA - major headaches about English fans and would be prepared to bite the bullet as it would save them potential disaster and hassle (visa's etc); Athens has been mentioned and they are listening to the governments; they have a major issue about the strained relationship between UK Government and Russian Government - in fact they are petrified.

FA - worried about fans safety and hooligan issues; they say potential for problems with Russian fans (even if Barcelona get through) but that can not be used as a reason; worried about World Cup bid - English fighting English abroad.

Russian Government - very reluctant to speak to anyone English; Chelsea's stooges have done a lot of mediating; basically they dont want the hassle of it and can do without it at the moment; they seem to be happy with UEFA compensation package.

Chelsea - very surprising; Abramovich is worried (he would know a bit) about 50-60,000 Englisg fans in Moscow; they are trying to build brand Chelsea in Russia and fear the problems far outweigh the the potential $£; club issues with visa's and fan safety.

Liverpool - very worried after Athens debacle; lack of trust in UEFA organisation.

Man Utd - no surpirse here - there view about safety issues, admin problems was dwarfed by their reluctance to the plan - they are convinced that UEFA will do everything possible to make sure Barcelona get through to avoid having to use Plan B; they also wanted to keep a % of the gate receipt as they will get a bigger attendance.

Meetings are taking place at a rapid rate and the 3 Local Grounds are applying for safety certificates as a must requirement.

No one will know until the 2nd leg at Old Trafford on 29th April but watch this space as things progress and leaks will happen.

theres no chance that EUFA will change the venue blatter, platini and co will not pass the opportunity to ban as many english clubs as they possibly can, as this is no1 objective, take it from me i know the real truth about the heysel disaster my best pal was 1 of the guys made an example of by the adorable maggie and he was not a liverpool fan he was west ham ICF. i know the real truth about that tragic day and certainaly the italians should have got double punishment from EUFA taking into account what liverpool got. 100% sure its gonna be a massive fans battle whatever 2 english teams get to the final the russian football hooligans will make shure of that

sorry i previously put it under the wrong heading