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In terms of demographics, there was a lopsided 10% decline in women visitors but 14.8% growth in male visitors.

The fall in women visitors was nearly right across the board, especially from major markets such as Japan (-26%), China (-18%), Germany (-11%), Malaysia (-12%) and the UK (-17%). Even India and the U.S. were down by 7% and 16% respectively.

This decline defies explanation, especially because the Tourism Authority of Thailand has invested heavily in marketing to women by promoting shopping, health and wellness and honeymoon holidays.

Source Bangkok Post Travel Section. Google Cache as BP links die quickly.

No connection with the number of rapes and unsolved deaths of tourists then?

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Perhaps a decline in family-holidays ?

With the steeply-rising airfares, and global investment uncertainties. people may be taking their families for more-local trips this year. Familie-Ricardo certainly is ! :o

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Happily, and just maybe, foreign women have come to the belief that Thailand just isn't safe enough for them, particularly in some areas. And maybe they've heard that when they go to the beach areas and other places, some of the the local Thai "men" treat them with disrespect (cat calls, whistles, inappropriate gesticulating, drooling , oggling, staring, undressing and raping (with there eyes)) . I can understand how a western woman may feel with this sort of low-class behaviour. Throw in a couple of rapes and murders at resort areas followed by the Thai authorities blaming the poor victims for their predicament and you get this result.

The quantity of foreign men are up for the usual obvious reason "'Thailand is a pussy hub".

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And if she does go with a western husband and goes to pattaya ,phuket the whole thing goes wrong because he will end up screwing one of the thai birds somewhere along the line and she never comes again.

cheers.

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It's not surprising, I've enjoyed traveling as a woman alone in Thailand, but it's very clear that there's far more to offer the average male here than the average female. Certainly safety is a huge issue (I certainly wouldn't go clubbing or drinking alone here) and even pairs of girls, or those traveling with/visiting men have run into trouble recently. In the year I've been out here I've met less than five single traveling women. Also there is next to zero romance potential with foreign guys and huge cultural barriers to anything with local men. For a girl South/Central America is a far more "romantic" destination, you see many more women visiting Mexico, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic etc than Thailand, whether that's for good reasons or not. Perhaps Thailand isn't getting very many repeat female visitors?

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Why pay a massive airfare to be terrified out of your wits is my opinion. This is not incidentally to denigrate the male species only. No, no, given the chance (and they shouldn't be) most of them would rob the tourist blind. It certainly is not a country for females to travel around alone. n.b. understand the lonely planet's latest issue states Thailand is not a dangerous country. If this is the case then this imo is entirely untrue and proves no indepth research has been done recently. I consider that the country's unaccountability for lost lives and attacks with weapons. scams etc. is dangerous to unsuspecting tourists both female and male though some of the latter might overlook a lot of what's happening due the obvious delights on offer and good luck to them.

I did not go to Thailand this year. Have been to various places there in the previous four high seasons. For me, each consecutive visit showed rapid deterioration in values, cleanliness and fair pricing and imo showed a decided lack of courtesy towards the visitor (not what Thailand is famed for, is it?) I do keep reading thaivisi in the hope that things will appear to stabilise however I do not imagine they will, not at least for many generations to come. Anyway once a dream of paradise is over it cannot, very sadly, be recaptured.

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maybe it helps to look at it from te other side= the countries with the biggest drop.

Some ladies from there have been murdered along lonely beaches or so last year, leading to enormous press-outbursts that Thailand is not ''safe''. Anyone in the travel-business knows that Japanese are hiper-sensitive to any perceived minor hazard or reported threat to Japanese. Airfares have gone up (from USA, or Europe) to about anywhere and relatively Thailand/BKK is still among the lower-priced.

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Geographically speaking, what city in Thailand has the largest share of murdered tourists?

I think it would be Pattaya, anyone have any info

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I am a woman that will be traveling to Thailand in

the next couple months alone

spending one week touring the popular tour

places some shopping included...I won't be visiting any remote secluded

areas...was thinking of going on the *tours* they may have

instead of going it alone...And also after the week

holiday spending one week recovering from surgery there...

Should I now have something to worry about ?

This will be my first trip there...

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Hi kaye, no I shouldn't think so. Generally speaking, if you use your common sense and follow the same safety rules you would at home you should be fine. Check out the safety tips for women in the ladies forum and feel free to post there as you will get a woman's perspective on life in Thailand.

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Geographically speaking, what city in Thailand has the largest share of murdered tourists?

Well, it doesn't happen nearly enough times to get anything that would hold up in statistics class.. It's the oddball case here and there, no pattern or anything.

I think it would be Pattaya, anyone have any info

Well, Pattaya has a lot of foreign residents also.. I think before applying the number of cases to a geographical city or region, you need to consider how many people go there.. I can recall only one case involving tourists in Pattaya (two Russian ladies at Jomtien)..

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...and more generally speaking, it could be that just family holiday arrivals are down, possibly due to the military coup, reduced arrivals from the USA becuase of the economic troubles there, etc.

And, overall tourism is UP.. so it's a good news story if you're in the tourism business... I appreciate the tendency to highlight the negatives in any news story, but overall Thailand is doing pretty good.

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Hi kaye,my advise would be to pay for the trips rather than go alone.thai guys are no more dangerous than most guys in the world except for one thing.they behave like little boys when rejected and have a bad habit of being crazy subhuman creatures at times with no respect for life,including their own.

after speaking to many thai ladies my obsvervation is they are far worse than europeans for having different girlfriends(forgot the thai word) and cannot be trusted.

Thailand can be an amazing place but i feel,after 5 years here in pattaya, it is imploding and cannot get better only worse.I would not like to be a woman coming to pattaya but if you do be careful with exposed jewelry and handbags.

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Hi kaye,my advise would be to pay for the trips rather than go alone.thai guys are no more dangerous than most guys in the world except for one thing.they behave like little boys when rejected and have a bad habit of being crazy subhuman creatures at times with no respect for life,including their own.

after speaking to many thai ladies my obsvervation is they are far worse than europeans for having different girlfriends(forgot the thai word) and cannot be trusted.

Thailand can be an amazing place but i feel,after 5 years here in pattaya, it is imploding and cannot get better only worse.I would not like to be a woman coming to pattaya but if you do be careful with exposed jewelry and handbags.

Hi thanks for the replies...

I would be just staying around the bangkok area...just where

the main tourist attractions but not pattaya or the night life...

I will be staying in at night...but that's what I planned anyway...

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Hi kaye,my advise would be to pay for the trips rather than go alone.thai guys are no more dangerous than most guys in the world except for one thing.they behave like little boys when rejected and have a bad habit of being crazy subhuman creatures at times with no respect for life,including their own.

after speaking to many thai ladies my obsvervation is they are far worse than europeans for having different girlfriends(forgot the thai word) and cannot be trusted.

Thailand can be an amazing place but i feel,after 5 years here in pattaya, it is imploding and cannot get better only worse.I would not like to be a woman coming to pattaya but if you do be careful with exposed jewelry and handbags.

Hi thanks for the replies...

I would be just staying around the bangkok area...just where

the main tourist attractions but not pattaya or the night life...

I will be staying in at night...but that's what I planned anyway...

Oh for christ's sake don't listen to all the oooh the terrible Thai men will get you, better stay nice and safe in your room with a cup of bloody cocoa crowd. I've been travelling around here, frequently alone, cities, beaches and villages, for the past ten years and had a couple of silly buggers trying the come on. But NOTHING as compared to the flashers and foul mouthed yobs I used to have to endure on returning from a night out in my home country.

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Hi kaye,my advise would be to pay for the trips rather than go alone.thai guys are no more dangerous than most guys in the world except for one thing.they behave like little boys when rejected and have a bad habit of being crazy subhuman creatures at times with no respect for life,including their own.

after speaking to many thai ladies my obsvervation is they are far worse than europeans for having different girlfriends(forgot the thai word) and cannot be trusted.

Thailand can be an amazing place but i feel,after 5 years here in pattaya, it is imploding and cannot get better only worse.I would not like to be a woman coming to pattaya but if you do be careful with exposed jewelry and handbags.

Hi thanks for the replies...

I would be just staying around the bangkok area...just where

the main tourist attractions but not pattaya or the night life...

I will be staying in at night...but that's what I planned anyway...

Oh for christ's sake don't listen to all the oooh the terrible Thai men will get you, better stay nice and safe in your room with a cup of bloody cocoa crowd. I've been travelling around here, frequently alone, cities, beaches and villages, for the past ten years and had a couple of silly buggers trying the come on. But NOTHING as compared to the flashers and foul mouthed yobs I used to have to endure on returning from a night out in my home country.

Yeh true I get drunk guys following me home sometimes on

a night out...I just tell them to piss off and they piss off lol...

probably not wise but oh well...

I'm not going to Thailand for the night life...

have no real interest in the bars not on my own anyway...

Have you got any suggestion that I could do on my

own at night...like theatre or cinema or something...

I wouldn't mind a few times out at night...

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