A friend just passed this on to me - I presume it is true. Immediately searching for some glass bottles for the car

WARN YOUR WIVES/GIRLFRIENDS DAUGHTERS/AND WOMEN IN YOUR FAMILY THAT.....

Bottled water in your car.....is very dangerous, for women!!!!

This is how Sheryl Crow got breast cancer. She was on the Ellen show and

said this same exact thing. This has been identified as the most common

cause of the high levels in breast cancer, especially in

Australia

.

A friend whose mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. The Doctor

told her: women should not drink bottled water that has been left in a car.

The doctor said that the heat and the plastic of the bottle have certain chemicals that can lead to breast cancer. So please be careful and do not

drink bottled water that has been left in a car, and, pass this on to all the women in your life. This information is the kind we need to know and be

aware and just might save us!!!! The heat causes toxins from the plastic to leak into the water and they have found these toxins in breast tissue. Use

a stainless steel Canteen or a glass bottle when you can!!!

Let every one that has a wife/girlfriend and daughters

know please.

Edited April 26, 200818 yr by chickencurry

Urban myth.

She does not state she received cancer this way. Read her own blog.

I want to tell everyone a little bit about my cancer. I was diagnosed February 20th after a routine mammogram showed some calcifications in both breasts, which is not

unusual for women my age. However, when the mammogram showed signs that the calcifications might be forming a pattern, it was suggested by the radiologist that I come back in 6 months instead of a year. It was my OBGYN, Nancy Goldman, who called and said, "Why wait 6 months. If this is anything, let's get a jump."

All this to say, yes, if I'd waited 6 months, who knows. Perhaps chemo, perhaps worse. We'll never know but why not take the situation into your own hands and begin diligently getting mammograms or ultrasound.

The other aspect to this story is that if you have dense breasts such as mine, it can be virtually impossible to detect anything by a simple self examination. That is why I feel so strongly about encouraging all women 35 and over to get yearly mammograms or if there is a history of cancer on either side of your family, not just breast but any cancer, that starting your yearly mammogram even earlier than

35 is recommended simply to create a baseline. Early detection is the best prevention.

We are very lucky on this tour to have a wonderful chef named Pia cooking for us. She met with my nutritionist, Rachel Bellar, to find out what are some great ways

to fortify the body, at the same time incorporating cancer preventative measures.

My encologist set me up with Rachel shortly after I was diagnosed. Rachel is at the forefront of nutritional studies in the area of disease prevention and overall wellness. Here are some good tips you guys can incorporate into your daily living:

Don't drink water from a bottle that has been sitting in your car. Heated plastic

will bleed toxic substances that can be carcinogenic.

Don't heat or freeze in plastic for the same reason. Heat in glass.

Do NOT cook in olive oil at high heat. This too is carcinogenic. It is fine to saute in olive oil but if you are browning or frying, use canola oil.

Spices that are cancer preventative, particularly prostate and colon cancer, are cinnamon and tumeric.

Interesting; thanks.

(Funny how tumeric sounds like tumouric, too )

Are freezer bags approved ? What to freeze in otherwise ?

Edited April 26, 200818 yr by sylviex

Perhaps you should check out this University medical website, it lists alot of this kind of information, based on research:

http://www.uihealthcare.com/topics/medical...tips/index.html

And one of the myths they bust is included in one of the links listed on this site:

Antiperspirants and Breast Cancer

Peer Review Status: Holden Comprehensive Cancer Center, Cancer Information Service

First Published: January 2002

Last Revised: April 2003

There has been an e-mail campaign recently, which falsely links antiperspirant use to increased risk of developing breast cancer. There is very little in this e-mail that is accurate. The false facts given are:

Rumor: The leading cause of breast cancer is the use of antiperspirants.

Fact: There have been many, many scientific studies looking at what causes breast cancer. None of these studies have shown antiperspirants to be a risk factor.

Rumor: "Toxins" build up in the body and cause abnormal cell growth resulting in breast cancer. Toxins build up because antiperspirants inhibit the exit of toxins from the body.

Fact: Breast cancer is not caused by a build up of toxins in the body. Antiperspirants do not stop toxins from being eliminated. The armpit has sweat glands that help the body keep cool, not eliminate toxins. Sweat is made up of water and salt. There are no toxins in sweat. It is the liver and kidneys that rid the body of toxins.

Research has identified factors that are related to the development of breast cancer. These factors include:

* Being female

* Age over 50

* Personal or close family history of breast cancer

* Hormonal factors

o Hormone replacement therapy

o Age at first period

o Age at first birth and number of births

o Age at menopause

* Sedentary life style

* Alcohol consumption

* Exposure to ionizing radiation

The best defense against breast cancer is early detection. There are three breast cancer screening techniques, mammography, clinical breast exams and self-breast exams. There is some controversy among agencies that recommend screening guidelines on the frequency and effectiveness of these screening techniques. Generally, women aged 40-50, should have a mammogram every 1-2 years, then annually after age 50. Your physician is the best judge as to how often and when to begin screening procedures.

You might also want to check out these articles on the American Cancer Society webpage:

Microwaving Plastic

Plastic Water Bottles

Thank you, sbk! That was very useful information!

While it is important to be aware and do the regular checkups according to ones age it is useless to panic on the whim of unsolicited emails...

Thanks for those, sbk.

actually I just read in the weekend Guardian that a certain substance in plastic baby bottles is being banned in Canada due to some research that links the substance to cancer. (sorry I forgot name of the substance)

a senator in US plans to put the bill to congress to ban it in US baby bottles and other plastic bottles too

i dont have link as I read the paper version, but Im sure if you google it will come up somewhere...

so might not be fully myth?

Didn't say the entire thing was a myth but it is constructed around myths, like the idea that Sheryl Crow blamed her breast cancer on warm water bottles.

Thanks for posting this valuable information SBK, which in turn opens the topic up to valuable discussion, whether agreeing or questioning.

One thing I want to say is that we are not strictly out of the danger zone on these issues, because the "authorities" like the American EPA and FDA have not ruled them out, and often base their safety thresholds on baselines that most would find uncomfortable.

"As for dioxin, the FDA says it 'has seen no evidence that plastic containers or films contain dioxins and knows of no reason why they would.'"

Sorry, but the fact that the FDA sees "no evidence" and sees "no reason why they should" doesn't exactly rule out or inspire confidence that it is not a danger. There are too many examples in the past of common knowledge being proved absolutely correct in the face of EPA bureaucratic double-speak.

And by the way, are they now saying canola oil is safe at high temperatures????? I switched to olive oil a while ago for this reason and now I am hearing the exact opposite!!! Does anyone know for sure which is correct?

Frankly, kat, I take ALL of it with a very large grain of salt. There are several main risk factors for cancer and those are the things you should be worried about most. As you know, my step-mother died of breast cancer. She did all the right things, ate all the right foods, avoided all the bad things, didn'tsmoke, didn't drink, wasn't overweight, didn't eat fatty foods and was a vegan for 15 years. She contracted breast cancer 3 times (two separate cancers and the last one a recurrence). She also had a heart attack while she was eating vegan! Sometimes it doesn't matter what the heck you do, your genes are going to get you.

So, it taught me one thing, be careful, be healthy but if you are overly stressed about this stuff then it might just have more of an effect than living your life to the fullest.

Yeah, I remember hearing about your step-mom. I'm very sorry about her loss. For the first time in my life, I also have health issues that aren't easily going away and seem to lead to other potentially big issues. Diet is extremely important, but there are so many seemingly innocuous threats to health like heated canola/olive oil or wheat and gluten that the long term prospects seem more and more difficult.

I'd like to know about the canola & olive oil, too .

In general, the health "information" we receive and how we deal with it is an interesting, if rather perplexing, topic.

Sylviex:

I asked some health guru friends and looked around the internet, and apparently the danger with Olive Oil and Canola Oil have to do with the temperatures at which they smoke or burn. The more fragile Extra-virgin olive oil is best for salads and unheated uses, and Pomace and virgin olive oil better for cooking that doesn't involve deep frying.

Sylviex:

I asked some health guru friends and looked around the internet, and apparently the danger with Olive Oil and Canola Oil have to do with the temperatures at which they smoke or burn. The more fragile Extra-virgin olive oil is best for salads and unheated uses, and Pomace and virgin olive oil better for cooking that doesn't involve deep frying.

Hi gals,

Grape seed oil, sold at Villa and I think Tops in Bangkok, is another alternative for high temperature cooking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapeseed_oil

http://www.grapeseedoil.com/fatchance.php

Smoke Points of Unsaturated Oils:

Grape Seed Oil 485°F

Olive Oil 250°F

Peanut Oil 450°F

Sesame Oil 410°F

Soybean Oil 450°F

Sunflower Seed Oil 392°F

Very helpful. Thank you!

Hmmm this sounds alot like the study done here in Canada that says not to use plastic baby bottles to heat up in the microwave because toxins can be released. They were taken off most store shelves here.

I'm going to pass this information on to my mother. She has always used plastic wrap covers and a microwave safe cover which is also plastic and is put over dishes to keep food from splattering. I've become wary of using any chemically based materials...

Thanks sbk for all the info.

Ted Widlanski, a professor of chemistry at Indiana U, published a study in 2006 that suggested a possible mechanism linking bisphenol-A (BPA) to the promotion of breast cancer. There was no demonstration of a direct cause and the consensus was that more studying needed to be done.

However, it is an accepted fact that in sufficient doses, Bisphenol-A is an estrogen receptor agonist. In simple english, it mimics the body's hormones. That's where the concern is and has been for the past 50 years or so. The thing is, no one knows how much is too much in humans as we all test positive for BPA. That is why the safe levels are so low.

The recent restriction on BPA in Canada arises from Health Canada's determination that BPA poses a possible threat to developing children. BPA can impact developing fetuses. Although the amount that leaches out of bottles and food cans (look at the sprayed on plastic coating in your cans) is within safety range, the concern was that there was a possibility of exceeding that safety level with those infants that had a diet reliant on plastic bottles or utensils. This is what caused the HPB to recommend the chemical withdrawal from products used with infants.

Alot of reputable scientists have pointed out the flaws in the Canadian studies. However, as much as it pains me to say this, it was the right decision. I won't bore you with the exciting details of organic chemistry but phenols are aromatics, and when you alter them, you can make them into dangerous carcinogens or tetragenics. (Tetragenics interfere with embryo development.)

I don't think anyone needs to worry. The doses present in the plastics are too low to harm adults, even if we allow for residue and compounding factors. In respect to infants, if you are in Thailand or from Europe, you will find it difficult to source BPA free dishes and utensils. The Chinese still use BPA in their products. You can compensate by using glass, where it is safe to do so, like in heating up food. Kids break things, so obviously it isn't wise to use glass for serving food to infants, or as was the case with my brother the spazz, to older kids.

There are so many other factors involved in breast cancer, from genetics to smoking to proper nutrition, BPA is the least of a woman's worries (or a man's, as guys get breast cancer too). Be prudent for sure, but like SBK says, please don't stress over it.

Edited May 10, 200818 yr by geriatrickid

An earlier post mentioned that the major contributing factor to breast cancer is hormonal. Plastics leach substances that mimics hormones and cause all sorts of problems. Many scientists blame the use of plastics for the recent drop in puberty age where it is no longer uncommon for 9 year old girls to reach puberty.

All plastics will leach something but I think the safest plastic is the one with a "5" in the recycling label that can be found on all plastics.

As for cocking oil, as far as I know the only oil that is safe when heated is coconut oil, plenty of that in Thailand and very nutritious as well.

Here is a run down on all the recycle codes that can be found on all plastics:

Here are a few good facts to remember:

1. Plastics are typically classified by one of seven recycling codes, indicating the type of resin used (the code is usually found at the bottom of containers and bottles), as follows:

#1 polyethylene terephthalate (PET or PETE)

Products: Soft drink bottles, medicine containers

#2 high density polyethylene (HDPE)

Products: Toys, bottles for milk, water, detergent, shampoo, motor oil

#3 polyvinyl chloride (V or PVC)

Products: Pipe, meat wrap, cooking oil bottles

#4 low density polyethylene (LDPE)

Products: Wrapping films, grocery bags

#5 polypropylene (PP)

Products: Syrup bottles, yogurt tubs, diapers

#6 polystyrene (PS)

Products: Coffee cups, clam-shell take-out containers

#7 other (usually polycarbonate)

Products: Medical storage containers, some Nalgene water bottles

2. The safer plastics for storing food and drinks are #2HDPE, #4LDPE, and #5PP.

3. Plastics that are accepted for recycling in your area are also good choices. But, don't store food or drink in #1 PETE even though it is one of the most commonly recycled types. There are no containers designed for re-use made from PETE, and one should never re-use single-use #1 plastic bottles because their design doesn't lend itself to proper cleaning and the bottles can harbor bacterial growth.

There are, however, a number of reusable containers made from another commonly recycled plastic, #2 HDPE. And number #4 LDPE and #5PP plastics, although not as widely recycled, are also good choices since, as with #2, most research has not shown leaching of any carcinogens or endocrine disruptors. Some bread and frozen food bags and squeezable bottles are made out of #4 plastic and some ketchup bottles and yogurt and margarine tubs are manufactured from #5 plastic.

4. Risky plastics that you don't want to use for storing food and drinks are #3 PVC, #6 PS, and #7 Other (Usually Polycarbonate).

Sometimes found in clear food packaging, #3 PVC, the second most commonly used plastic in the world, is a toxic plastic dangerous both to our health and to the environment. Its manufacture and incineration releases dioxins, a potent carcinogen and hormone disruptor. Vinyl chloride, the primary building block of PVC, is a known human carcinogen that also poses a threat to workers during manufacture.

In contact with foods, especially hot, fatty foods, PVC can also leach chemicals such as adipates and phthalates, which have been shown to cause birth defects and damage to the liver, kidneys, lungs and reproductive systems in mice. In addition, most community recycling programs do not accept PVC, so the vast majority of vinyl ends up in landfills or incinerators. While many companies have agreed to restrict or phase out PVC, we still have a long way to go before this "toxic" plastic is banned from use.

Polystyrene, #6 PS, is usually found in foam containers and cups and sometimes in clear disposable takeout containers, plastic cutlery and cups. It's best to avoid this plastic because PS may leach styrene into food it comes in contact with. Styrene, considered a possible human carcinogen by IARC, may also disrupt hormones or affect reproduction.

Polycarbonate (marked as #7), usually found in baby bottles, 5-gallon water bottles and the epoxy lining in food cans can leach BPA into liquids and foods. A study conducted at Prefectural University of Kumamoto, Japan, concluded that polycarbonate bottles containing hot liquids leach more BPA than new bottles.

Since 95 percent of all baby bottles currently on the market are made of polycarbonate, parents have a right to be concerned. The National Environmental Trust recommends switching to polycarbonate-free baby bottles, like those manufactured from glass or from #5 PP.

Thanks to you both. Information that is definitely essential to health. A while back, there was also talk about younger puberty ages and a causal link between hormones in food such as chickens and milk.