Latest True Promotion

[kankaroo]

True's new promotion which excludes the old 3800bht modem fee etc seems well good! I didnt get it when they were charging that price as the staff were good enough to admit to me that the speed for my area would be comparable to dial up. But now even if that is the case it is a whole lot better.

Couple of questions though,

I know I will not recieve the speeds reported but some users comment on around 150-200kbp/s on the 1Mb conection. That is fine but would it also be that speed if I were to get the 2.5Mb/s package, or would there be an extra boost (say 350-400) etc?

Also my main use for this connection would be games. Does anyone know what kind of data speeds online games require to run without any lag (yes am still a big kid )

Cheers !

[grahamb]

We're on the 2.5Mb/s package and we get around 300 - 400 kbp/s depending on the time of day. That is surfing first thing in the morning, in the evening and at weekends (all on international sites).

I know that it's a long way from the advertised speed but the 2.5Mb/s package is the 'slowest' one that has the 10MB email inbox (or at least it was when I signed up)

[Firefoxx]

Thailand is still playing catch up to other countries in terms of ADSL. I remember that the US and Japan were giving out free modems (and other goodies like webcams) pretty much from the start. In Japan, there was news of people getting hand-outs of ethernet modems at bus stations if they signed up for broadband. Still, progress is progress, even if it's agonizingly slow and painful. Korea and Japan are through the ADSL stage and are heading for full-scale "fiber to the home". I think Thailand isn't done with the "twiddle me thumbs" stage yet.

Most online games use up very little bandwidth (less than 64k.. RO uses around 16k), and if the server is located in Thailand, then there is no problem. Local bandwidth is ample, and the real-world throughput to local servers is excellent.

If the congestion is with True, then getting more bandwidth will mean more real-world speed. However, it won't be much more... ie. if you get 512k then your real throughput might be 150k, if you get 2mb then you would get 300k, etc (these are just imaginary numbers!). In other words, twice the bandwidth will not equal twice the throughput.

True for me is very strange... some days it's fairly ok, while other days it's totally... unmentionable. On those days, I often imagine kicking True's management in the ... unmentionables.

[kankaroo]

hehehe. OK that doesnt sound too bad. As I said I only really want it for online gaming as I have built myself a state of the art gaming system and am dying to get into UT4, Doom3, Call of Duty etc ect online. They are great games in single player (for a bit) but nothing like adding the human element into it. A bit like having sex with a woman and.......I better not go into that one

Cheers!

[marquess]

We're on the 2.5Mb/s package and we get around 300 - 400 kbp/s depending on the time of day. That is surfing first thing in the morning, in the evening and at weekends (all on international sites).

I know that it's a long way from the advertised speed but the 2.5Mb/s package is the 'slowest' one that has the 10MB email inbox (or at least it was when I signed up)

What then is likey to be the real connexion speed on the 256? Is is worth having the 512? According to the advert it says that the free modem is only avaiable with the 256, is that strictly true? Also forgive my ignorance, but when installing the modem, where, what port on the computer does it go into?

[Doi Thong]

The True connection is veru unstable and far from anything that was promised, on 2.5M package my friend hardly have 50 kb/s download and 10-15 kb/s upload. Instalation process of USB modem however is easy, you just install their CD supplied with the modem and plug the modem to USB slot in your comp. The CD automatically creates dialer on your desctop, open it write user name and password and dial.

[bedardp]

FOR THOSE WHO WORRY ABOUT EFFECTIVE ADSL SPEED:

I'm not an ADSL expert, but I read a lot about it and I have 35 years experience in IT.

1- If your dial-up connections never reached the rated 50k, that's a good indication of too much noise on your line... don't expect too much from ADSL.

2- ADSL speed is affected by the distance from your computer to the Phone Company's switch... The greater the distance, the slower, and the faster the link is supposed to be, the more it will be affected.

3- Beware of speed tests: if you test with US or European Speed test sites, you wil

never get your rated ADSL speed, the intercontinental links are limited in number and capacity so they are too busy. And the more you run speed tests, the less bandwidth for real users.

4- If you measure speed and performance form one download site, remember that you cannot go faster than what the server gives you at the other end.

5- When you walk on the streets of most cities in Thailand, have you noticed the cabling hanging everywhere ? The worst mess I ever saw anywhere: I've seen cable bundles 1 meter in diameter, cut wires dangling everywhere, wrapped around high voltage lines and/or transformers, etc...

....... not good for noiseless communications that are required for high speed internet.

Food for thought

P.

[Firefoxx]

bedardp, I think you've misunderstood the ADSL situation in Thailand. While it is true that ADSL speed IS affected by line condition and distance from the CO, that is the standard that is used to determine the speed in other countries. In other words, if you were living in the US and you bought an ADSL package, you would pay a fixed price, ie. $50/month, for whatever speed your line could sustain.

This is NOT true for Thailand. In Thailand, the speed is not adaptive. It it set by True's techs at the CO to whatever package that you buy, i.e. 512k, 1mb, 2mb. In nearly all cases you DO get this speed (since this is way lower than the full 8mbit speed that ADSL can do). In the very rare cases that your phone line cannot sustain this speed, then the tech will say so, and you can get a lower priced package.

About speed tests: The reason people test with US sites is because they want to know how good the international link is. Testing with True's own servers or servers in Thailand is useless, since that only gives an indication of the local link to local servers. Testing WON'T congest traffic any more than going to a typical web site.

Normal 56k modems cannot exceed 53k (FCC regulations). If you've gotten more than 50k, then you're in a ideal best-case situation. Remember that when you're using a normal 56k modem, you're not only communicating with the local CO, you're also going through the phone network to the ISP, located somewhere in the city, so it's not only your phone line that matters. With ADSL, only your phone line determines maximum attainable bandwidth. From the CO to the ISP, it's all leased line ATM.

There is one and only one reason why ADSL in Thailand is slow to international sites (and full bandwidth for local sites): limited bandwidth at the ISP. In True's case it's intentional, since the effective bandwidth for corporate customers is much better than for normal customers.

[bedardp]

Well, Firefox, thanks for the info.

Like I said I'm not an ADSL expert. It's actually my first experience with it. Back home I had cable and it worked very well.

Thanks again

[p1p]

Anybody who can not get ADSL or good speed on your normal connection, have a look at this thread ADSL Alternative.

[Billion]

FOR THOSE WHO WORRY ABOUT EFFECTIVE ADSL SPEED:

1- If your dial-up connections never reached the rated 50k, that's a good indication of too much noise on your line... don't expect too much from ADSL.

2- ADSL speed is affected by the distance from your computer to the Phone Company's switch... The greater the distance, the slower, and the faster the link is supposed to be, the more it will be affected.

5- When you walk on the streets of most cities in Thailand, have you noticed the cabling hanging everywhere ? The worst mess I ever saw anywhere: I've seen cable bundles 1 meter in diameter, cut wires dangling everywhere,  wrapped around high voltage lines and/or transformers, etc...

....... not good for noiseless communications that are required for high speed internet.

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I must have a very good line and connection with my 512 KBPS.

My ADSL True high speed works perfect and no problem so far.