Careers That Will Allow Me To Live In Thailand/asia

[RoastLamb]

I've been around Asia, mostly Thailand, for a year or so, and have pretty much decided that I'm not interested in living in the west long-term. I am going back soon with a plan to spend a couple of years back at college or university studying something that will allow me to live and work here, while making a half decent wage, ie not teaching English.

I'll probably take on some kind of apprenticeship, and was thinking about getting into property. But I'm not sure if that would be useful in Asia.

If anyone can give me some ideas as to what I can look into I'll be eternally gratefull.

Thanks

[Prakanong]

Even with a first degree without experience its not likely you would get anything much outside the English teaching field

The guy's from the big property companies all probably spend a good number of years in their home country before an oversea's posting - yes you might get one of the small local outfits taking you on in Pattaya or Samui somewhere but its mostly commision only I would have thought.

Why not study something that will get you a year at a Thai Uni on a oversea's one year exchange - you will learn Thai and hopefully get the contacts you need

As for apprenticeship - if you are talking about traditional apprenticeships I do not know any that will get you a job in Thailand.

I always say do what you really enjoy, you will go further in a field you like and it will not feel like a chore - of course have one eye on what might get you to Asia (Thailand) but its not an overnight process.

[boiledegg]

As youve given such a detailed description of yourself i will be able to help.

I am guessing youre male from Britain/US/OZ between 24-34 with no formal qualifications.

Now your idea of getting into property is not a good one at present, as many staff are getting laid off globally and unless youve plenty of cash, experience or contacts youre not of much use to an Asian company who can hire a local to do the job cheaper then yourself.

If you go to Uni after 3 years you will get a degree then you will need another few years experience before any overseas company will look at you.

So my advice to you is to do a vocational course which will lead to a job in not too many months and it wont cost you 1000s of dollars or pounds that you pay or borrow going to uni.

Jobs such as a financial advisor can get you work in HK/Sing and other SE Asian countries, if you Google CEFA you can start gaining their certificates right away with a few years studying and working im sure you could get a position abroad if it is your goal.

Then once youve passed a few of the CEFA modules and have some experience, Google (Montpelier financial advisor Asia) this company hires throughout the UK and OZ for staff to work in Asia, there are many similar companies.

Alternatively go to Aberdeen knock on thousands of doors and try to get a start offshore and in a few years you may get a posting in Asia.

Or why not go against my advice and do a degree and teach something other then English in LOS, something that is of interest you.

[plachon]

Boiler Room studies?

[dclaryjr]

D.E.A. ?

[Bagwain]

Engineering and or Commercial Diving.

[zorro1]

Open a bar. There are 1 million in pattaya alone and most are for sale

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Boiler Room studies?

They are on the basis of 'on the job training' which are usually pressure cooked very short courses.

[PhilHarries]

Alternatively go to Aberdeen knock on thousands of doors and try to get a start offshore and in a few years you may get a posting in Asia.

Unfortunately without the necessary skills he'll be doing a lot of fruitless knocking.

An engineering apprenticeship would be a minimum starting point preferably with an oil & gas industry bias (if such a course is available) and that would take four years (guessing but got to be ball park figure). Then that is only a start, following that would be an uphill struggle to get a job without any experience. But once a job is secured he'd need around five years minimum, ten years preferred, experience and then he could throw himself on the world stage and look for a placement on a platform in Asian waters.

Other than teaching English I don't think there is any profession that would guarantee work in Thailand.

There are many paths that lead to your goal in life but few go direct.

[britmaveric]

Time share tout???

[Tomkagai]

Alternatively go to Aberdeen knock on thousands of doors and try to get a start offshore and in a few years you may get a posting in Asia.

I would phrase this...." Alternatively go to Aberdeen knock on thousands of doors.. and join the queues of the thousands of people in the UK trying to get a start offshore...Maybe after about 10-15 years experience you may have a remote chance of a posting in Asia...

[Prakanong]

"Other than teaching English I don't think there is any profession that would guarantee work in Thailand."

I am racking my brains here trying to come up with one!

Best would be to study Asian Studies or something with a bias to thailand and spend a year there learning the language on an undergraduate exchange.

Follow this up with PHd in Thai studies and do all your research in the Thai language

You might get a teaching position or after the undergrad you might get a trainee job in Thailand if you had the language and contacts!

[jackr]

Internet 'get rich quick'

[astral]

I was lucky to get a job with a major European company in Bangkok, as a specialist

on a new computer system they were starting to sell.

That was over 20 years ago.

As others have stated a degree in itself will not be sufficient, you MUST have experience to back it up.

Even then there are many Thai graduates seeking employment.

[steveromagnino]

if you are really good in any one area such as law, marketing, advertising, accounting, finance, investment banking, security, MIS then you will have a pick of good jobs here.

Of course you have to get a decent degree from a decent university, build 2-3 years of decent work experiencea and preferably 5+ in your local country and then start trying to get hired here.

That's the reason why there are lots of english teachers earning a pittance here, and nursing that one bottle of Singha beer through the night waiting for Angelwitch to close so they can save the bar fine....and hopefully get a cheaper rate.

The guy on 500k a month expat package working not that hard at some big management consulting company may appear to be a person to be envied and despised, but they paid their dues and that's why they coast in at 9pm to Champ Ellyses, pick the sideliner with the artificial rack and away they go, perhaps even popping in to see a friend at Nana later on, but with the financial freedom to ring the bell, order a bottle of black and select several of the most nubile overpriced totty without a second thought.

Ain't no replacement for hardwork, good experience and ambition.

[Prakanong]

if you are really good in any one area such as law, marketing, advertising, accounting, finance, investment banking, security, MIS then you will have a pick of good jobs here.

Of course you have to get a decent degree from a decent university, build 2-3 years of decent work experiencea and preferably 5+ in your local country and then start trying to get hired here.

That's the reason why there are lots of english teachers earning a pittance here, and nursing that one bottle of Singha beer through the night waiting for Angelwitch to close so they can save the bar fine....and hopefully get a cheaper rate.

The guy on 500k a month expat package working not that hard at some big management consulting company may appear to be a person to be envied and despised, but they paid their dues and that's why they coast in at 9pm to Champ Ellyses, pick the sideliner with the artificial rack and away they go, perhaps even popping in to see a friend at Nana later on, but with the financial freedom to ring the bell, order a bottle of black and select several of the most nubile overpriced totty without a second thought.

Ain't no replacement for hardwork, good experience and ambition.

You sound like my Dad

[Ubon9]

if you are really good in any one area such as law, marketing, advertising, accounting, finance, investment banking, security, MIS then you will have a pick of good jobs here.

Of course you have to get a decent degree from a decent university, build 2-3 years of decent work experiencea and preferably 5+ in your local country and then start trying to get hired here.

That's the reason why there are lots of english teachers earning a pittance here, and nursing that one bottle of Singha beer through the night waiting for Angelwitch to close so they can save the bar fine....and hopefully get a cheaper rate.

The guy on 500k a month expat package working not that hard at some big management consulting company may appear to be a person to be envied and despised, but they paid their dues and that's why they coast in at 9pm to Champ Ellyses, pick the sideliner with the artificial rack and away they go, perhaps even popping in to see a friend at Nana later on, but with the financial freedom to ring the bell, order a bottle of black and select several of the most nubile overpriced totty without a second thought.

Ain't no replacement for hardwork, good experience and ambition.

By the time he does all that, I'm sure he change is mind on where to live.

[Tomkagai]

if you are really good in any one area such as law, marketing, advertising, accounting, finance, investment banking, security, MIS then you will have a pick of good jobs here.

Of course you have to get a decent degree from a decent university, build 2-3 years of decent work experiencea and preferably 5+ in your local country and then start trying to get hired here.

That's the reason why there are lots of english teachers earning a pittance here, and nursing that one bottle of Singha beer through the night waiting for Angelwitch to close so they can save the bar fine....and hopefully get a cheaper rate.

The guy on 500k a month expat package working not that hard at some big management consulting company may appear to be a person to be envied and despised, but they paid their dues and that's why they coast in at 9pm to Champ Ellyses, pick the sideliner with the artificial rack and away they go, perhaps even popping in to see a friend at Nana later on, but with the financial freedom to ring the bell, order a bottle of black and select several of the most nubile overpriced totty without a second thought.

Ain't no replacement for hardwork, good experience and ambition.

Very well said Sir

[sgunn65]

Go and do some voluntary work in a drug or alcohol rehab and do an introduction to counselling course. See if working with this client group appeals to you. Some people love most hate it. If after 6-9 months you are doing ok I may have a placement opportunity for you. You won't be on ex pats wages but you will be earning and working. And drugs and alcohol problems never go away.

Even if you don't end up in Thailand there are lots of jobs in the industry for people with some experience in the UK

[Tomkagai]

Go and do some voluntary work in a drug or alcohol rehab and do an introduction to counselling course. See if working with this client group appeals to you. Some people love most hate it. If after 6-9 months you are doing ok I may have a placement opportunity for you. You won't be on ex pats wages but you will be earning and working. And drugs and alcohol problems never go away.

Even if you don't end up in Thailand there are lots of jobs in the industry for people with some experience in the UK

I have lots of experience with alcohol and a Phd in alcohol consumption to boot....think I could get a job in the UK?...

[sgunn65]

No but I have a place right here waiting for you!!!

[plachon]

Boiler Room studies?

They are on the basis of 'on the job training' which are usually pressure cooked very short courses.

Sounds like just the job someone with an apprenticeship in plumbing or haut cuisine would be qualified for.

[steveromagnino]

You sound like my Dad

Clean up your room son, and stop doing that repulsive late night exercise, it will make you go blind!

You could be my son, as you are still at school Fancy job and all those high society mates and you still can't even get outa college!!!

'By the time he does all that, I'm sure he change is mind on where to live. '

no doubt :-)

'Well said sir'

thanks, this is the sort of stuff I wish someone had told me...hold up, that's what my dad said and what I did!

As for Angelwitch, just to be clear, I have only been there a few times in my life, the last time being with Prakanong I do believe in 2003 around about.

So all my expat knowledge of what expats earning 500k get up to....is based on his Scouser mates :-) Or whatever them folk are. All i know is they aren't from Sunderland!

[Doza]

Don't confuse English teaching with real teaching. Heaps of international schools here for real teachers and with some experience can easily pick up THB 100K / month plus 30K housing allowence and paid holidays (seems there are heaps of them - 16 weeks or something?).

That would be your single quickest route to a job here or any other country in the world. Get on the int. school teaching circuit. But it will require 4 years uni and couple more years experience. Have fun.

Its closely followed by engineering and getting a job with oil and gas companies here. Heaps of work going right now it seems. Also useful career for many countries interantional travel.

But yeah, like everyone said. Study, work to get experience, then get start applying.

[zorro1]

if you are really good in any one area such as law, marketing, advertising, accounting, finance, investment banking, security, MIS then you will have a pick of good jobs here.

Of course you have to get a decent degree from a decent university, build 2-3 years of decent work experiencea and preferably 5+ in your local country and then start trying to get hired here.

That's the reason why there are lots of english teachers earning a pittance here, and nursing that one bottle of Singha beer through the night waiting for Angelwitch to close so they can save the bar fine....and hopefully get a cheaper rate.

The guy on 500k a month expat package working not that hard at some big management consulting company may appear to be a person to be envied and despised, but they paid their dues and that's why they coast in at 9pm to Champ Ellyses, pick the sideliner with the artificial rack and away they go, perhaps even popping in to see a friend at Nana later on, but with the financial freedom to ring the bell, order a , and select several of the most nubile overpriced totty without a second thought.

Ain't no replacement for hardwork, good experience and ambition.

You sound like my Dad

500k a month , envied ,paid their dues ,artificial rack, financial freedom, ring the bell, bottle of black, select several of the most nubile overpriced totty without a second thought.

Music to my ears

Edited May 29, 2008 by zorro1

[Tomkagai]

Don't confuse English teaching with real teaching. Heaps of international schools here for real teachers and with some experience can easily pick up THB 100K / month plus 30K housing allowence and paid holidays (seems there are heaps of them - 16 weeks or something?).

That would be your single quickest route to a job here or any other country in the world. Get on the int. school teaching circuit. But it will require 4 years uni and couple more years experience. Have fun.

Its closely followed by engineering and getting a job with oil and gas companies here. Heaps of work going right now it seems. Also useful career for many countries interantional travel.

But yeah, like everyone said. Study, work to get experience, then get start applying.

Understand what you are getting at, but disagree....Heaps of work going, there is a misconception that the O&G business is screaming out for people, it is, but for experienced people, seems to be these days every man and his dog is trying to jump on the band wagon...He would find it very difficult to get a foot in here with less than 10-15 year good experience, even then its a case of who you know not what you know....

Regards the statement regarding the easiest quickest route to job here...."Real" Teachers closely followed by Engineering....no way not even close....see above...

[garro]

Don't confuse English teaching with real teaching. Heaps of international schools here for real teachers and with some experience can easily pick up THB 100K / month plus 30K housing allowence and paid holidays (seems there are heaps of them - 16 weeks or something?).

That would be your single quickest route to a job here or any other country in the world. Get on the int. school teaching circuit. But it will require 4 years uni and couple more years experience. Have fun.

Its closely followed by engineering and getting a job with oil and gas companies here. Heaps of work going right now it seems. Also useful career for many countries interantional travel.

But yeah, like everyone said. Study, work to get experience, then get start applying.

Oh dear, another genius who thinks he sets the standards for what is and what isn't teaching. I teach English in Thailand, and I'm proud of it. I also have a degree and a PGCE and consider myself a real teacher. I may not get the big bucks, but I enjoy my job, and I enjoy working with my students.

[garro]

Go and do some voluntary work in a drug or alcohol rehab and do an introduction to counselling course. See if working with this client group appeals to you. Some people love most hate it. If after 6-9 months you are doing ok I may have a placement opportunity for you. You won't be on ex pats wages but you will be earning and working. And drugs and alcohol problems never go away.

Even if you don't end up in Thailand there are lots of jobs in the industry for people with some experience in the UK

I find your attitude to addiction a bit disturbing for someone who claims to want to help addicts. I also find it a bit worrying that somebody with under a years training would be able to get paid work treating addiction in your 'outfit'. I have lots of experience in addiction and I am also a fully trained health professional. I can't see how a few months voluntary work and a counseling course could prepare anyone for a tough area like addiction. It certainly wouldn't meet the standards for my home country.It sounds like quackery to me, and that's me being kind.

I also find it odd that you would recruit on an internet forum for a such serious work.

Edited May 29, 2008 by garro

[Tomkagai]

Go and do some voluntary work in a drug or alcohol rehab and do an introduction to counselling course. See if working with this client group appeals to you. Some people love most hate it. If after 6-9 months you are doing ok I may have a placement opportunity for you. You won't be on ex pats wages but you will be earning and working. And drugs and alcohol problems never go away.

Even if you don't end up in Thailand there are lots of jobs in the industry for people with some experience in the UK

I find your attitude to addiction a bit disturbing for someone who claims to want to help addicts. I also find it a bit worrying that somebody with under a years training would be able to get paid work treating addiction in your 'outfit'. I have lots of experience in addiction and I am also a fully trained health professional. I can't see how a few months voluntary work and a counseling course could prepare anyone for a tough area like addiction. It certainly wouldn't meet the standards for my home country.It sounds like quackery to me, and that's me being kind.

I also find it odd that you would recruit on an internet forum for a such serious work.

I will go and work for him if the beer is free....

[Pushit]

I've been around Asia, mostly Thailand, for a year or so, and have pretty much decided that I'm not interested in living in the west long-term. I am going back soon with a plan to spend a couple of years back at college or university studying something that will allow me to live and work here, while making a half decent wage, ie not teaching English.

I'll probably take on some kind of apprenticeship, and was thinking about getting into property. But I'm not sure if that would be useful in Asia.

If anyone can give me some ideas as to what I can look into I'll be eternally gratefull.

Thanks

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