Burnig Dvd File Size Exploded ?

[CosmicSurfer]

I'm burning my first DVD Video Compilation, using Roxio MyDVD 10.

I have downloaded the complete Torrent for Season 1 of "Hill Street Blues" and even though no single episode is larger than 320MB, I'm only able to Burn 3 Episodes to a 4.7GB DVD... The File size exploded to 4611.1MB when I loaded the episodes into Roxio.

Can anyone explain this to me?

How did a combined total of under 1GB on my HD explode when burned to DVD?

Does the encoding triple the file size?

Confused

CS

[percy2]

Are you changing from one format to another?

Say from AVI/Div-X to DVD-Video?

Cheers

[Guest Reimar]

2 1/2 hour movie as avi file is about 1.3 GB but 120 min (2 h) mpg or Mpeg4 DVD file is 4.5 GB!

Avi files are smaller than mpg or mpeg4 files.

Cheers.

[dave_boo]

AVI and MPG are containers and mpeg4 are codices. For instance, you can create an AVI file with a mpeg-4 codec. And if you use the minimum bit rate for your avi encoded with mpeg-4 file (as low as 0.1 Mb/s if not lower), it will be smaller than say using the maximum allowed bit rate for mpg (as high as 100 Mb/s!).

Depending on your bitrate, your Divx/Xvid files can be larger or smaller than the Mpeg-2 files that they came from. Regardless, the have been recompressed. If your burning program is than expanding them to the mpeg-2 container used to generate .vob, there are several restrictions. First is the size of the frame. If you have a video that doesn't conform to the standard, it may be 'padding' the number of pixels to achieve compliance. Also, the framerate may have been altered and it is being put back in with additional frames. Furthermore, there's a 300 kb/s minimum that needs to be addressed. Compare that to the Max Peak bitrate of ~400 kb/s for the handheld profile of Divx. So there could be extrapolation there to get up to DVD compliance.

If you're dvd player lets you play Divx, why don't you just drag and drop the files onto the dvd? I.E., instead of creating a "Movie" DVD, create a "Data" DVD.

**edited cause I'm an idiot**

Edited June 27, 2008 by dave_boo

[JetsetBkk]

I bought a couple of DVD players - 999 and 799 baht I think they were. They both have USB inputs, so I can copy an .avi file to a USB stick and watch the film in the bedroom or lounge on the cheapo DVD player. I don't burn DVDs any more, except to store films and TV series in .avi format. The DVD players will also play the .avi files on DVDs and CDs, but I use the USB stick as it's so convenient and quick.

The USB stick is 4 GB, so I can copy 10 episodes of a TV series, each being about 360 MB, onto the stick and watch a new episode every night - quicker than spending hours converting one .avi file to .vob (using "ConvertXtoDVD" program), wearing out the DVD burner, roasting the CPU (flat out at 100% for an hour or so), having no 'puter to play with while this is happening and burning only one episode per DVD!

For me, these cheap DVD players with a USB port are a no-brainer solution.

Edited June 27, 2008 by JetsetBkk

[sniffdog]

I bought a couple of DVD players - 999 and 799 baht I think they were. They both have USB inputs, so I can copy an .avi file to a USB stick and watch the film in the bedroom or lounge on the cheapo DVD player. I don't burn DVDs any more, except to store films and TV series in .avi format. The DVD players will also play the .avi files on DVDs and CDs, but I use the USB stick as it's so convenient and quick.

The USB stick is 4 GB, so I can copy 10 episodes of a TV series, each being about 360 MB, onto the stick and watch a new episode every night - quicker than spending hours converting one .avi file to .vob (using "ConvertXtoDVD" program), wearing out the DVD burner, roasting the CPU (flat out at 100% for an hour or so), having no 'puter to play with while this is happening and burning only one episode per DVD!

For me, these cheap DVD players with a USB port are a no-brainer solution.

If you have a fast computer, it doesn't have to take that long .... converting a 700MB movie to a DVD Vob format takes me 10-13 minutes. Although I think the USB port on DVD players is a great solution, using USB sticks is not all that great as most of the movies either stutter or the speech and picture are not well synchronized.

Nowadays I connect my computer to my HDTV and home theater (6 channels out) ... no need to burn dvds or use USB sticks .... Use only now micro high definition rips. Much better quality (upto 1080p) than standard DivX movies ....

[jeffer]

With the .avi files from torrents you just burn them straight to DVD, no need to convert to anything, that's all I do and they all play on my DVD player. CD Burner XP, freeware, takes 10-15 minutes to burn a DVD of 12 standard (45 mins) episodes of any TV show, using a basic Core 2 Duo processor.

[JetsetBkk]

If you have a fast computer, it doesn't have to take that long .... converting a 700MB movie to a DVD Vob format takes me 10-13 minutes. Although I think the USB port on DVD players is a great solution, using USB sticks is not all that great as most of the movies either stutter or the speech and picture are not well synchronized.

Nowadays I connect my computer to my HDTV and home theater (6 channels out) ... no need to burn dvds or use USB sticks .... Use only now micro high definition rips. Much better quality (upto 1080p) than standard DivX movies ....

My PC is 1.8 GHz with 1.5 MB RAM, but it was doing the "ConvertXtoDVD" process from a USB drive to a USB drive, so that might have slowed it up a lot. But I'm sure it always used to take at least an hour, maybe an hour and a half - and the fan used to come on because the CPU was at 100% for all that time. Hmm, since the CPU was at 100%, it would indicate that it was processor bound, not I/O bound... so maybe I needed a quicker machine or more RAM.

I also get the stutter/speech sync problem at times with the USB stick especially if the films are high definition - in fact, those ones are almost unplayable. But the usual stuff I get, e.g. "Spooks" TV series, are about 8.5 MB per minute - 360 MB for 40 minutes or 470 MB for 55 minutes. And they play OK with just the occasional stutter. In fact, I watched a couple of episodes last night .

[sniffdog]

If you have a fast computer, it doesn't have to take that long .... converting a 700MB movie to a DVD Vob format takes me 10-13 minutes. Although I think the USB port on DVD players is a great solution, using USB sticks is not all that great as most of the movies either stutter or the speech and picture are not well synchronized.

Nowadays I connect my computer to my HDTV and home theater (6 channels out) ... no need to burn dvds or use USB sticks .... Use only now micro high definition rips. Much better quality (upto 1080p) than standard DivX movies ....

My PC is 1.8 GHz with 1.5 MB RAM, but it was doing the "ConvertXtoDVD" process from a USB drive to a USB drive, so that might have slowed it up a lot. But I'm sure it always used to take at least an hour, maybe an hour and a half - and the fan used to come on because the CPU was at 100% for all that time. Hmm, since the CPU was at 100%, it would indicate that it was processor bound, not I/O bound... so maybe I needed a quicker machine or more RAM.

I also get the stutter/speech sync problem at times with the USB stick especially if the films are high definition - in fact, those ones are almost unplayable. But the usual stuff I get, e.g. "Spooks" TV series, are about 8.5 MB per minute - 360 MB for 40 minutes or 470 MB for 55 minutes. And they play OK with just the occasional stutter. In fact, I watched a couple of episodes last night .

Yes, with a 1.8 Ghz computer it might take one hour or so for a 700Mb movie. My current computer has a Quad Core at 3Ghz .... standard movies 10-13 minutes, high definition around 22 minutes. But as I said, no need to burn anything as I stream movies from my computer

[JetsetBkk]

Yes, with a 1.8 Ghz computer it might take one hour or so for a 700Mb movie. My current computer has a Quad Core at 3Ghz .... standard movies 10-13 minutes, high definition around 22 minutes. But as I said, no need to burn anything as I stream movies from my computer

Hmm, time for me to visit Pantip again, I think. This 'puter is 3 years old after all.