Starbuck Or Kfc Or Thai Food?

[CCCP]

Where's mashed potatoes. That's what I would prefer evertime if i could.

[Ulysses G.]

America can't have any food history (beside maybe the Indians) because it is a new country.

Ballocks. So is Brazil. So is Mexico. And on and on.

I know this is the ignorant dogma of Europeans. But they are simply wrong on that point. I will concede one point. Based on my historical reading, early American cuisine was bloody awful, for alot of reasons. But there is most definitely a rich history, and most definitely a distinctive national cuisine, with some incredibly rich regional variations such as Cajun, Creole, New England, Northwestern, Southern/soul food, BBQ, Chesapeake coastal, Southwestern, Tex-Mex, etc. etc. And yes, the foods of the Indians were a big part of the development of the cuisine, as well as a huge contribution to cuisines all over the world.

BTW, I am not saying American food history/cuisine is the "best" in the world by any means. That is a matter of taste. I would probably vote for both China and France for that honor. But for food lovers, most can find good stuff from all over the world, even the Philippines (sorry Pinoys)!

Jingthing is right as usual.

There is lots of amazing food that is unique to different cities and states and with a little research one can eat in nothing but excellent restaurants. I'm always shocked at the Brits who have been to the U.S. and say that it is all fast food. They must just walk into every touristy places they see and then get upset because the food is so ordinary. Research, tourist, research!

Personally, I hit the internet and do a lot of reading and searching every time I visit a new town and usually find some great places.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Ulysses G.

[kmart]

<br />KFC tortures the chickens to make them more flavorful! <img src="style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /><br />

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Mmmmmm! Tortured chicken!

Yes, without proper torturing, the chicken has a bland taste.

I find that an hour on "The Rack" produces the most flavorsome results. And longer drumsticks, of course.

[Ulysses G.]

Waterboarding the chicken in good wine before dispatching it with a massive electric shock always has good results.

[Pierrot]

BTW, I am not saying American food history/cuisine is the "best" in the world by any means. That is a matter of taste. I would probably vote for both China and France for that honor.

I found Chinese food absolutely overrated. What ever the angle you look at it, Indian cuisine is definitively superior.

Now that you can eat very well is the USA, there is no doubt about it. But what would you call "American cuisine"? To make it simple, if you had to prepare an "American" lunch, what would be the starter, main course and dessert?

[Naam]

Now that you can eat very well is the USA, there is no doubt about it. But what would you call "American cuisine"? To make it simple, if you had to prepare an "American" lunch, what would be the starter, main course and dessert?

frahd chickin'n ketchup, bbq-reebs'n ketchup, brownies without ketchup

[TheDon]

my fav food is indian, then probaly Thai and then Italian. When im pissed nothing beats a kebab

[Ulysses G.]

[Now that you can eat very well is the USA, there is no doubt about it. But what would you call "American cuisine"? To make it simple, if you had to prepare an "American" lunch, what would be the starter, main course and dessert?

Boston chowder, fried flounder with hush puppies, corn on the cob and garden peas, and corn fritters with real maple syrup or wild blackberry pie.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Ulysses G.

[JetsetBkk]

Boston chowder, fried flounder with hush puppies, corn on the cob and garden peas, and corn fritters with real maple syrup or wild blackberry pie.

Why does it matter what shoes you wear?

[Pierrot]

[Now that you can eat very well is the USA, there is no doubt about it. But what would you call "American cuisine"? To make it simple, if you had to prepare an "American" lunch, what would be the starter, main course and dessert?

Boston chowder, fried flounder with hush puppies, corn on the cob and garden peas, and corn fritters with real maple syrup or wild blackberry pie.

Hush Puppies ? Is it some kind of hotdog ???

[Ulysses G.]

A type of fried dough balls of cornmeal and onions that taste better than they sound and are often used in Southern cooking instead of potatoes.

Boston Chowder is a thick seafood soup with lots of vegetables

Edited July 13, 2008 by Ulysses G.

[Jingthing]

An American lunch?

Well, I am not much of a chef, and there are many thousands of possibilities, but here is one idea. Of course, you wouldn't normally find these different regions served together, but one can fantasize.

Starter:

Shrimp Gumbo bowl (Lousiana style thick soup) over rice

Main:

Fried Fat Belly Clams with tartar sauce (New England seafood)

Sides:

Collard Greens and Black Eyed Peas (Southern)

Desert:

Key Lime Pie (Floridian)

Edited July 13, 2008 by Jingthing

[Ulysses G.]

Just choose from a soul food menu:

Meats

Country-fried steak, with baked beans and mashed potatoes with white gravy

Chicken gizzards, batter-fried

Chicken livers, batter-fried

Chitterlings ("chitlins") (the cleaned and prepared intestines of pigs, slow cooked and often eaten with vinegar and hot sauce; sometimes parboiled, then battered and fried)

Country fried steak, also known as "chicken fried steak" (beef deep-fried with a crisp flour or batter coating, usually served with white gravy)

Cracklins (commonly known as pork rinds and sometimes added to cornbread batter)

Fatback (fatty, cured, salted pork; used to season meats and vegetables)

Fried chicken (fried in grease with seasoned flour)

Fried fish (any of several varieties of fish—especially catfish, but also whiting, porgies, bluegills—dredged in seasoned cornmeal and deep fried

Ham hocks (smoked, used to flavor vegetables and legumes)

Hoghead cheese (made primarily from pig snouts, lips, and ears, and frequently referred to as "souse meat" or simply "souse")

Hog maws (hog jowls, sliced and usually cooked with chitterlings)

Neckbones (beef neck bones seasoned and slow cooked)

Oxtail soup (a soup or stew made from beef tails)

Pigs feet (slow cooked like chitterlings, sometimes pickled and, like chitterlings, often eaten with vinegar and hot sauce)

Ribs (usually pork, but can also be beef ribs)

Vegetables

Black-eyed peas (cooked separately, or with rice as Hoppin' John)

Cabbage, usually boiled and seasoned with vinegar, salt and ham hocks or fatback. More recently, smoked poultry (turkey or chicken) is also used as a seasoning.

Greens (usually cooked with ham hocks; especially collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, or a combination thereof. A wild green known as poke salad, which requires special preparation due to its toxicity when raw.)

Lima beans (see also butter beans)

Butter beans (immature lima beans, usually cooked in butter or combined with multiple regional sausages)

Field peas (seasoned with pork)

Okra (African vegetable eaten fried in cornmeal and flour or stewed, often with tomatoes, corn, onions and hot peppers; the Bantu word for okra is ngombo, from which the Creole/soul food dish gumbo derives its name)

Red beans served with rice or in chili

Succotash (originally a Native American dish of yellow corn, tomatoes, and butter beans, usually cooked in butter)

Sweet potatoes (often parboiled, sliced and then baked, using sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg and butter, commonly called "candied yams"; also boiled, then pureed, seasoned and baked into pies—similar in taste and texture to pumpkin pie)

Fried Corn, sweet yellow corn, off the cob, sauteed in bacon fat, with other flavorings, similar to Maque choux.

Breads

Biscuits with honey

Biscuits (a shortbread similar to scones, commonly served with butter, jam, jelly, sorghum or cane syrup, or gravy; used to wipe up, or "sop," liquids from a dish)

Cornbread (a shortbread often baked in a skillet, commonly seasoned with bacon fat); a Native American contribution.

Hoecakes (a type of cornbread made of cornmeal, salt and water, which is very thin in texture, and fried in cooking oil in a skillet. It became known as "hoecake" because field hands often cooked it on a shovel or hoe held to an open flame)

Hot water cornbread (cornmeal mixed with hot water and fried)

Hushpuppies (balls of cornmeal deep-fried with salt and diced onions; slaves used them to "hush" their dogs yelping for food in their yards.

Johnny cakes (fried cornmeal pancakes, usually salted and buttered)

Milk and bread (a "po' folks' dessert-in-a-glass" of slightly crumbled cornbread, buttermilk and sugar)

Sweet bread (bread with a certain sweetness, presumably from molasses)

Dumplings (homemade flat square noodles boiled with stewed chicken (usually a hen).

Panbread (a type of unleavened bread made with flour salt, butter and water. It's cooked on top of the stove with an iron skillet. Similar to traditional flatbread that one finds within various cultures across the world.)

Other items

Chow-chow (a spicy, homemade pickle relish sometimes made with okra, corn, cabbage, hot peppers, green tomatoes and other vegetables; commonly used to top black-eyed peas and otherwise as a condiment and side dish)

Grits (or "hominy grits", made from processed, dried, ground corn kernels and usually eaten as a breakfast food the consistency of porridge; also served with fish and meat at dinnertime, similar to polenta)

Hot sauce (a condiment of cayenne peppers, vinegar, salt, garlic and other spices often used on chitterlings, fried chicken and fish including homemade or Texas Pete, Tabasco, or Louisiana brand)

Macaroni and cheese (never from a box, only cooked from scratch with cheddar cheese, milk, flour, and seasonings mustard is option but a rarity.)It becomes a casserole when meats, such as bacon or ham, are added.

Rice pudding, with rice and corn-based vanilla pudding

Rice (served with red beans, black beans and/or black-eyed peas, as "rice and gravy" with fried chicken, fried pork chops, etc., or cooked into purloo (pilaf) or "bog" with chicken, pork, tomatoes, okra, onions, sausage, etc.)

Sorghum syrup (from sorghum, or "Guinea corn," a sweet grain indigenous to Africa introduced into the U.S. by African slaves in the early 17th century; see biscuits); frequently referred to as "sorghum molasses"

Sweet tea, inexpensive orange pekoe (black tea, often Lipton, Tetley, or Luzianne brands) boiled, sweetened with cane sugar, and chilled, served with lemon. The tea is sometimes steeped in the sun instead of boiled; this is referred to as "sun tea"

Salmon Patties, a mixture of skinned & de-boned salmon, mixed with cornmeal, eggs, milk and onions fried in a skillet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_food

Edited July 13, 2008 by Ulysses G.

[Pierrot]

Just choose from a soul food menu:

Meats

Country-fried steak, with baked beans and mashed potatoes with white gravy

Chicken gizzards, batter-fried

Chicken livers, batter-fried

Chitterlings ("chitlins") (the cleaned and prepared intestines of pigs, slow cooked and often eaten with vinegar and hot sauce; sometimes parboiled, then battered and fried)

Country fried steak, also known as "chicken fried steak" (beef deep-fried with a crisp flour or batter coating, usually served with white gravy)

Cracklins (commonly known as pork rinds and sometimes added to cornbread batter)

Fatback (fatty, cured, salted pork; used to season meats and vegetables)

Fried chicken (fried in grease with seasoned flour)

Fried fish (any of several varieties of fish—especially catfish, but also whiting, porgies, bluegills—dredged in seasoned cornmeal and deep fried

Ham hocks (smoked, used to flavor vegetables and legumes)

Hoghead cheese (made primarily from pig snouts, lips, and ears, and frequently referred to as "souse meat" or simply "souse")

Hog maws (hog jowls, sliced and usually cooked with chitterlings)

Neckbones (beef neck bones seasoned and slow cooked)

Oxtail soup (a soup or stew made from beef tails)

Pigs feet (slow cooked like chitterlings, sometimes pickled and, like chitterlings, often eaten with vinegar and hot sauce)

Ribs (usually pork, but can also be beef ribs)

Vegetables

Black-eyed peas (cooked separately, or with rice as Hoppin' John)

Cabbage, usually boiled and seasoned with vinegar, salt and ham hocks or fatback. More recently, smoked poultry (turkey or chicken) is also used as a seasoning.

Greens (usually cooked with ham hocks; especially collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, or a combination thereof. A wild green known as poke salad, which requires special preparation due to its toxicity when raw.)

Lima beans (see also butter beans)

Butter beans (immature lima beans, usually cooked in butter or combined with multiple regional sausages)

Field peas (seasoned with pork)

Okra (African vegetable eaten fried in cornmeal and flour or stewed, often with tomatoes, corn, onions and hot peppers; the Bantu word for okra is ngombo, from which the Creole/soul food dish gumbo derives its name)

Red beans served with rice or in chili

Succotash (originally a Native American dish of yellow corn, tomatoes, and butter beans, usually cooked in butter)

Sweet potatoes (often parboiled, sliced and then baked, using sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg and butter, commonly called "candied yams"; also boiled, then pureed, seasoned and baked into pies—similar in taste and texture to pumpkin pie)

Fried Corn, sweet yellow corn, off the cob, sauteed in bacon fat, with other flavorings, similar to Maque choux.

Breads

Biscuits with honey

Biscuits (a shortbread similar to scones, commonly served with butter, jam, jelly, sorghum or cane syrup, or gravy; used to wipe up, or "sop," liquids from a dish)

Cornbread (a shortbread often baked in a skillet, commonly seasoned with bacon fat); a Native American contribution.

Hoecakes (a type of cornbread made of cornmeal, salt and water, which is very thin in texture, and fried in cooking oil in a skillet. It became known as "hoecake" because field hands often cooked it on a shovel or hoe held to an open flame)

Hot water cornbread (cornmeal mixed with hot water and fried)

Hushpuppies (balls of cornmeal deep-fried with salt and diced onions; slaves used them to "hush" their dogs yelping for food in their yards.

Johnny cakes (fried cornmeal pancakes, usually salted and buttered)

Milk and bread (a "po' folks' dessert-in-a-glass" of slightly crumbled cornbread, buttermilk and sugar)

Sweet bread (bread with a certain sweetness, presumably from molasses)

Dumplings (homemade flat square noodles boiled with stewed chicken (usually a hen).

Panbread (a type of unleavened bread made with flour salt, butter and water. It's cooked on top of the stove with an iron skillet. Similar to traditional flatbread that one finds within various cultures across the world.)

Other items

Chow-chow (a spicy, homemade pickle relish sometimes made with okra, corn, cabbage, hot peppers, green tomatoes and other vegetables; commonly used to top black-eyed peas and otherwise as a condiment and side dish)

Grits (or "hominy grits", made from processed, dried, ground corn kernels and usually eaten as a breakfast food the consistency of porridge; also served with fish and meat at dinnertime, similar to polenta)

Hot sauce (a condiment of cayenne peppers, vinegar, salt, garlic and other spices often used on chitterlings, fried chicken and fish including homemade or Texas Pete, Tabasco, or Louisiana brand)

Macaroni and cheese (never from a box, only cooked from scratch with cheddar cheese, milk, flour, and seasonings mustard is option but a rarity.)It becomes a casserole when meats, such as bacon or ham, are added.

Rice pudding, with rice and corn-based vanilla pudding

Rice (served with red beans, black beans and/or black-eyed peas, as "rice and gravy" with fried chicken, fried pork chops, etc., or cooked into purloo (pilaf) or "bog" with chicken, pork, tomatoes, okra, onions, sausage, etc.)

Sorghum syrup (from sorghum, or "Guinea corn," a sweet grain indigenous to Africa introduced into the U.S. by African slaves in the early 17th century; see biscuits); frequently referred to as "sorghum molasses"

Sweet tea, inexpensive orange pekoe (black tea, often Lipton, Tetley, or Luzianne brands) boiled, sweetened with cane sugar, and chilled, served with lemon. The tea is sometimes steeped in the sun instead of boiled; this is referred to as "sun tea"

Salmon Patties, a mixture of skinned & de-boned salmon, mixed with cornmeal, eggs, milk and onions fried in a skillet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_food

Sounds really great.

But if you have some foreign guests for lunch, you wouldn't be able to serve everything that you list. What would you chose?

[Jingthing]

In case you don't know, to find anywhere near the variety of southern/soul foods listed on that menu, you basically have to be in the SOUTHERN United States.

[wintermute]

KFC chicken is pretty low quality. McDonald's has better fried chicken. The last time I ate KFC they gave me some wrinkled looking pieces that resembled something that was left out in a heat lamp for a couple of days without buyers. They tasted terrible..like someone batter dipped it in a bag of salt.

In a separate incident I had some KFC and ended up with 2 days of nasty stomach flu like symptoms from food poisoning.

I don't eat KFC anymore and at least with Thai food I can often see it being prepared fresh.

[TheDon]

I find that if you roundhouse kick the staff after you buy it, it tastes alot better

[Ulysses G.]

KFC keeps taking away the side dishes that I like. Recently they got rid of cole slaw and years ago, they got rid of their delicious, hot buttermilk biscuits with butter or strawberry jam.

I'm not that crazy about just the chicken by itself.

[TheDon]

Thai KFC is 10 times better then Sydney KFC, the peices of chicken are bigger and the menue is alot bigger

[wintermute]

Thai KFC is 10 times better then Sydney KFC, the peices of chicken are bigger and the menue is alot bigger

That's a pretty sad statement. Thai KFC is like eating a bag of salt with chicken flavoring added.

[JetsetBkk]

KFC chicken is pretty low quality. McDonald's has better fried chicken. The last time I ate KFC they gave me some wrinkled looking pieces that resembled something that was left out in a heat lamp for a couple of days without buyers. They tasted terrible..like someone batter dipped it in a bag of salt.

In a separate incident I had some KFC and ended up with 2 days of nasty stomach flu like symptoms from food poisoning.

I don't eat KFC anymore and at least with Thai food I can often see it being prepared fresh.

I've never had a problem with KFC chicken. Their spicy wings are addictive - it's the only chicken I have when I eat there, which is usually once every 1 or 2 weeks.

[ashacat]

Starbucks (all) Coffee contains phloridzin, chlorogenic acid and gallic acid that respectively inflame and degrade pituatary, hypothalamus and pancreas, forming the cancer nucleus, essenial for a malignancy. Coffee also contains caffeic acid that inflames 8 internal organs allowing easy entry of the cancer nucleus, needing only a few more stages for a malignancy. We know the causes, therefore you can cure and prevent the little c. Get 20 years ahead of conventional medicine, and save a life. Kentucky FC tastes finger licking good because of the monosodium glutamate in which it swims. Some of the side effects of MSG are arrhythmia, (irregulart heartbeat) and cardiac arrest, (death). Every body has a different tolerance, but it affects all. Thai food in restaurants uses MSG; and microwave ovens, which make all food carcinogenic, due to radiolytic compounds introduced, and all nutrients are destroyed. Most Thai food has sugar added. All sugar is contaminated with asbestos (old conveyor belts somewhere in the processing line). Asbestos inactivates your killer white blood cells, crashing your immune system Sorry to spoil the fun. See you in Rawai for a healthy piece of...what???

Are you the guy I see hanging around under the BTS wearing a hat made of tin foil?

[Ulysses G.]

Starbucks (all) Coffee contains phloridzin, chlorogenic acid and gallic acid that respectively inflame and degrade pituatary, hypothalamus and pancreas, forming the cancer nucleus, essenial for a malignancy. Coffee also contains caffeic acid that inflames 8 internal organs allowing easy entry of the cancer nucleus, needing only a few more stages for a malignancy. We know the causes, therefore you can cure and prevent the little c. Get 20 years ahead of conventional medicine, and save a life. Kentucky FC tastes finger licking good because of the monosodium glutamate in which it swims. Some of the side effects of MSG are arrhythmia, (irregulart heartbeat) and cardiac arrest, (death). Every body has a different tolerance, but it affects all. Thai food in restaurants uses MSG; and microwave ovens, which make all food carcinogenic, due to radiolytic compounds introduced, and all nutrients are destroyed. Most Thai food has sugar added. All sugar is contaminated with asbestos (old conveyor belts somewhere in the processing line). Asbestos inactivates your killer white blood cells, crashing your immune system Sorry to spoil the fun. See you in Rawai for a healthy piece of...what???

Are you the guy I see hanging around under the BTS wearing a hat made of tin foil?

Excellent post ashacat!

[bkkjames]

Thai KFC is 10 times better then Sydney KFC, the peices of chicken are bigger and the menue is alot bigger

That's a pretty sad statement. Thai KFC is like eating a bag of salt with chicken flavoring added.

Well, The Don comes from where? That should say enough about his culinary sense. Vegimite prawns on the barbie mate. aroi aroi.

[kmart]

I've never had a problem with KFC chicken. Their spicy wings are addictive

They put heroin in them. Probably.

[Tyke]

I previously started a thread on here about if any members knew any farang who thought they were thai? But as the thread wore on it ended up as a topic about Starbucks, KFC and Thai food!!

So carry on the topic on here! LOL

Which one do you prefer!

Please vote now!

I didn't know KFC made food. I thought they were in the cremation business.

[alexth]

THAI FOOD all the way for me!!!