Swimming Pools Salt Or Clorine

[BigC]

Just wondering which is more econmoical salt water pools or clorine. how hard is it to convert to salt water pool from clorine pool

[Naam]

Just wondering which is more econmoical salt water pools or clorine. how hard is it to convert to salt water pool from clorine pool

for the record: even after conversion your "salt water Pool" will still be a "chlorine pool". the misnomer "salt water pool" is used because chlorine is generated from salt by electrolysis. conversion is no problem at all. after that you will buy salt instead of chlorine (or any other disinfectant) and you will still need the usual chemicals to treat and balance your pool water. as far as "economical" is concerned i haven't seen any evidence that generating chlorine by electrolysis is cheaper and more reliable than using chlorine.

[sbk]

bigC, did you know that there is actually a swimming pool subforum? I believe there was a fairly big discussion about saltwater pools there already.

[Rooo]

Big C, i have had salt water chlorinators for years & I have on here now.PM me if you are interested, you know where my preference lies.

[Dingojoe]

Big C, i have had salt water chlorinators for years & I have on here now.PM me if you are interested, you know where my preference lies.

These days salt water and chlorine pools are out of date. there is a system now which you add to your existing pump and filter which converts

your pool water into what you could call bottled water, this is the same principal as what the bottle water companies at their factories only they have better filters then our pools have of course.

So BigC go and see Scott in Meanam at PURAPOOLS and he will have you swiming in bottled water, you can drink it too no more Tesco bottled water either haha.

[stevehaigh]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

thx steve

[Naam]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

finally i know how much a chlorine generator costs. not taking interest on capital investment into consideration the initial cost is equivalent to a 12 (TWELVE) years supply of quality stabilised chlorine. oh well... suckers are indeed born every minute.

[concerned]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

finally i know how much a chlorine generator costs. not taking interest on capital investment into consideration the initial cost is equivalent to a 12 (TWELVE) years supply of quality stabilised chlorine. oh well... suckers are indeed born every minute.

What an extremely rude, uninformed, insulting and moronic comment!

[Naam]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

finally i know how much a chlorine generator costs. not taking interest on capital investment into consideration the initial cost is equivalent to a 12 (TWELVE) years supply of quality stabilised chlorine. oh well... suckers are indeed born every minute.

What an extremely rude, uninformed, insulting and moronic comment!

what an extremely enlightening -packed with facts- comment

[Rooo]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

finally i know how much a chlorine generator costs. not taking interest on capital investment into consideration the initial cost is equivalent to a 12 (TWELVE) years supply of quality stabilised chlorine. oh well... suckers are indeed born every minute.

Suckers born every minute?Geez you are a wealth of information aren't you.Some people like salt water pools, not your scene,don't bag it.The man simply asked an opinion,your's is not an almighty one to end all.How much does it cost you to install a proper chlorination system?To answer the OP,mine cost near nothing to run & very low maintenance additives, if set up properly.

Chlorine, salt or Ozone filtration all fine, depends what you like .

[Naam]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

finally i know how much a chlorine generator costs. not taking interest on capital investment into consideration the initial cost is equivalent to a 12 (TWELVE) years supply of quality stabilised chlorine. oh well... suckers are indeed born every minute.

Suckers born every minute?Geez you are a wealth of information aren't you.Some people like salt water pools, not your scene,don't bag it.The man simply asked an opinion,your's is not an almighty one to end all.How much does it cost you to install a proper chlorination system?To answer the OP,mine cost near nothing to run & very low maintenance additives, if set up properly. Chlorine, salt or Ozone filtration all fine, depends what you like .

i referred to "50,000 Baht" installation cost and stated facts because the OP's question targeted "economical"

quote: "Just wondering which is more econmoical salt water pools or clorine"

the question itself is an oxymoron (i don't blame the OP for his ignorance because we all started as pool newbies) as the so-called "salt water pools" are nothing but chlorinated pools although the water has a slightly higher salt content. companies selling "salt water pool systems" are most of the time bullsh*tting and confusing potential customers! comparing purchase of chlorine and installing an electrolysis chlorination system is discussed and i added my 2 Satangs. of course there are different systems and different cost. e.g. my system cost me the "peanuts" amount of 150,000 Baht. however, that is irrelevant, as irrelevant as your illogical comment.

[Rooo]

My wife doesn't like the taste of salt in the water so we converted to chlorine. If you decide to go salt water, i have a salt water chlorinator machine from Poolrite (Austrailia) that i only used for about 3 months. It was 50,000 new, i'll sell it for half price if you are interested, PM me.

finally i know how much a chlorine generator costs. not taking interest on capital investment into consideration the initial cost is equivalent to a 12 (TWELVE) years supply of quality stabilised chlorine. oh well... suckers are indeed born every minute.

Suckers born every minute?Geez you are a wealth of information aren't you.Some people like salt water pools, not your scene,don't bag it.The man simply asked an opinion,your's is not an almighty one to end all.How much does it cost you to install a proper chlorination system?To answer the OP,mine cost near nothing to run & very low maintenance additives, if set up properly. Chlorine, salt or Ozone filtration all fine, depends what you like .

i referred to "50,000 Baht" installation cost and stated facts because the OP's question targeted "economical"

quote: "Just wondering which is more econmoical salt water pools or clorine"

the question itself is an oxymoron (i don't blame the OP for his ignorance because we all started as pool newbies) as the so-called "salt water pools" are nothing but chlorinated pools although the water has a slightly higher salt content. companies selling "salt water pool systems" are most of the time bullsh*tting and confusing potential customers! comparing purchase of chlorine and installing an electrolysis chlorination system is discussed and i added my 2 Satangs. of course there are different systems and different cost. e.g. my system cost me the "peanuts" amount of 150,000 Baht. however, that is irrelevant, as irrelevant as your illogical comment.

50,000 to 150,000.00 Now that makes sense.Glorified chlorine pools? You must have some chlorine, even drinking water in some countries has got to have some.Just stating, I don't have to go though all the trouble of buying bulk chlorine & what goes on with it,with a rather complicated system.As for my illogical comments , thank you coming from you that's a compliment.Have a nice day.

[ClaudeFeller]

Here my 2 cents...

There are 4 ways to kee pool water clean:

1. Chlorine

2. Salt Water with the same effect like chlorine

3. purification based on copper ionisation (hope I choose the right) word

4. purification with UV lamps and filters

3. and 4. can give you drinking water

4. needs a monthly chlorination, AFAIK 3. doesnt need any

1. and 2.: Less investment but high running costs.

3. is the highest investment but working very good according to the supplier.

4. is used worldwide to generate drinking water

Now maybe somebody can correct me where I am wrong.

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The whole pool business is a high profit market, for me it seems like profit range is above 100 %.

Edited July 26, 2008 by ClaudeFeller

[Rooo]

Here my 2 cents...

There are 4 ways to kee pool water clean:

1. Chlorine

2. Salt Water with the same effect like chlorine

3. purification based on copper ionisation (hope I choose the right) word

4. purification with UV lamps and filters

3. and 4. can give you drinking water

4. needs a monthly chlorination, AFAIK 3. doesnt need any

1. and 2.: Less investment but high running costs.

3. is the highest investment but working very good according to the supplier.

4. is used worldwide to generate drinking water

Now maybe somebody can correct me where I am wrong.

Last comment:

The whole pool business is a high profit market, for me it seems like profit range is above 100 %.

Yiu are right Claude, very high profit margin, but also specialised field & most equipment is imported.

[Naam]

Here my 2 cents...

There are 4 ways to kee pool water clean:

1. Chlorine

2. Salt Water with the same effect like chlorine

3. purification based on copper ionisation (hope I choose the right) word

4. purification with UV lamps and filters

3. and 4. can give you drinking water

4. needs a monthly chlorination, AFAIK 3. doesnt need any

1. and 2.: Less investment but high running costs.

3. is the highest investment but working very good according to the supplier.

4. is used worldwide to generate drinking water

Now maybe somebody can correct me where I am wrong.

Last comment:

The whole pool business is a high profit market, for me it seems like profit range is above 100 %.

Claude, i used copper/silver ionisation for quite some time in Florida but would like to emphasize that a shock chlorinisation (twice a month!) was absolute mandatory to avoid yellow and green algae as well as to prevent a built-up of various other bacteria. that system did not require a high investment (only 350 dollars including installation) but the cartridges containing some copper and silver were outrageously expensive.

can't help it to add that

quote: "Salt Water with the same effect like chlorine"

is misleading. as already mentioned the so-called "saltwater pools" are chlorinated by using electrolysis which generates chlorine from normal salt (NaCl). the only difference is that the salt contents in the water is slightly higher than that of a conventionally chlorinated pool.

as far as 100% profit is concerned i would like to add that in certain cases (like my system) the profit margin must be several hundred percent

[Naam]

50,000 to 150,000.00 Now that makes sense.

it does not make sense for the OP because his question was "what is more economical?". that i have spent 150,000 plus recently another 315,000 on my pool equipment is irrelevant for the OP as well as for you. but obviously you lack to understand that

[Rooo]

50,000 to 150,000.00 Now that makes sense.

it does not make sense for the OP because his question was "what is more economical?". that i have spent 150,000 plus recently another 315,000 on my pool equipment is irrelevant for the OP as well as for you. but obviously you lack to understand that

[Naam]

purification based on copper ionisation (hope I choose the right) word

is the highest investment but working very good according to the supplier

that claim is ridiculous Claude. the "investment" is nothing but a cheap PVC housing installed between pump and return line. the attached picture of my pool piping in Florida shows the blue housing (marked with waht is supposed to be an 'arrow') which takes the (expensive) copper/silver cartridge. by the way, i anwered your PM separately. cheers!

[Chaichara]

I've just read this thread and to be honest I've rarely been more disapointed at such a collection of uninformed comments. Whoever said "there's one born every minute" hit the nail on the head.

If you live in an area with a high percentage of well-to-do farangs you ARE going to be paying 150 - 200% more for your pool equipment and salt-water chlorinators., and make no mistake about it.

My PoolRite chlorinator cost 29,000 baht, it is a complete automated pool management system for a 4 x 10 pool, and saves me all the chemicals. It had covered its cost on pool maintenance in the first year. But that was a couple of years ago, and I would have expected the prices to have gone up a little bit since, but NOWHERE in the region of the prices you guys are quoting!

With a chlorinator there is absolutely no smell of of chlorine at all, and the salt in the water is imperceptible.

I buy my salt for 125 baht for 50 kg sack - in Pattaya the pool shops sell it for 250 or even 500!

PM me if you want to know where I get my pool supplies. I am in Nong Bua Lamphu, but I fetch it from Pattaya believe it or not.

Oh, and BTW, it takes just over an hour to install a saltwater chlorinator, although I have heard of firms that will whack you 10,000 baht or more for fitting it.

Edited August 4, 2008 by Chaichara

[mattias33]

Claude, i used copper/silver ionisation for quite some time in Florida but would like to emphasize that a shock chlorinisation (twice a month!) was absolute mandatory to avoid yellow and green algae as well as to prevent a built-up of various other bacteria.

The "shock chlorinisation" is also turning the water yellow/green as far as i experienced.

Well, swimmingpools, it´s all science to me anyway and when you manage to get the pool green you get all kind of different advice. I think there is just as many different answers as the people you ask. Everybody have their own oppinion. Experience your own pool and learn how to keep it good and then shut up about it, because whatever you say, you are wrong!

[Naam]

Claude, i used copper/silver ionisation for quite some time in Florida but would like to emphasize that a shock chlorinisation (twice a month!) was absolute mandatory to avoid yellow and green algae as well as to prevent a built-up of various other bacteria.

The "shock chlorinisation" is also turning the water yellow/green as far as i experienced.

Well, swimmingpools, it´s all science to me anyway and when you manage to get the pool green you get all kind of different advice. I think there is just as many different answers as the people you ask. Everybody have their own oppinion. Experience your own pool and learn how to keep it good and then shut up about it, because whatever you say, you are wrong!

it does not.

[Naam]

I've just read this thread and to be honest I've rarely been more disapointed at such a collection of uninformed comments. Whoever said "there's one born every minute" hit the nail on the head.

If you live in an area with a high percentage of well-to-do farangs you ARE going to be paying 150 - 200% more for your pool equipment and salt-water chlorinators., and make no mistake about it.

My PoolRite chlorinator cost 29,000 baht, it is a complete automated pool management system for a 4 x 10 pool, and saves me all the chemicals. It had covered its cost on pool maintenance in the first year. But that was a couple of years ago, and I would have expected the prices to have gone up a little bit since, but NOWHERE in the region of the prices you guys are quoting!

With a chlorinator there is absolutely no smell of of chlorine at all, and the salt in the water is imperceptible.

I buy my salt for 125 baht for 50 kg sack - in Pattaya the pool shops sell it for 250 or even 500!

PM me if you want to know where I get my pool supplies. I am in Nong Bua Lamphu, but I fetch it from Pattaya believe it or not.

Oh, and BTW, it takes just over an hour to install a saltwater chlorinator, although I have heard of firms that will whack you 10,000 baht or more for fitting it.

if using the salt chlorinator only how do you balance the pH?

[Seewolf]

I've just read this thread and to be honest I've rarely been more disapointed at such a collection of uninformed comments. Whoever said "there's one born every minute" hit the nail on the head.

If you live in an area with a high percentage of well-to-do farangs you ARE going to be paying 150 - 200% more for your pool equipment and salt-water chlorinators., and make no mistake about it.

My PoolRite chlorinator cost 29,000 baht, it is a complete automated pool management system for a 4 x 10 pool, and saves me all the chemicals. It had covered its cost on pool maintenance in the first year. But that was a couple of years ago, and I would have expected the prices to have gone up a little bit since, but NOWHERE in the region of the prices you guys are quoting!

With a chlorinator there is absolutely no smell of of chlorine at all, and the salt in the water is imperceptible.

I buy my salt for 125 baht for 50 kg sack - in Pattaya the pool shops sell it for 250 or even 500!

PM me if you want to know where I get my pool supplies. I am in Nong Bua Lamphu, but I fetch it from Pattaya believe it or not.

Oh, and BTW, it takes just over an hour to install a saltwater chlorinator, although I have heard of firms that will whack you 10,000 baht or more for fitting it.

Salt prices are very high in Khon Kaen.

125 baht for 50kg seams to be a very good price as i've called my wife yesterday and she told me there is one shop in Khon Kaen who takes 550 Baht for 50kg.

I will have a closer look when i'm back next week.