britainmal Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 When is the Thai Government going to allow foreign Land ownership. When is the Thai governemnt going to stop being so zenaphobic towards foreigners. We need to petition the Thai government to change this law, which does not make sense. The Thai government does not even think about changing the law, unless it hears some complaints. I personally would not buy land in Thailand unless I have the full rights to my money that I invested. The Thai govenment knows a lot of foreigners like their women, so they know they will just put it under the girlfriend/wife's name. I think this is unexceptable. Don't forget the 5 or 10 percent of rich Thai's can buy land in most western countries and they don't have to be super rich either. How can we solve this problem or is it even solvable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Unfair though it may be, it is the Thai law. I doubt you will have much luck with the Thai's. Why not write to you MP at home. The next time Thailand wants a contract with your country, they have to make concessions, or face loss of rights in your country? In the meantime you can start a company and put the house in the company name to protect your investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugdig Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I kind of like the idea that foreigners can't own land here. It kind of puts the brakes on development. I like the nice quiet lifestyle here. I don't need more foreigners here...I don't need more industry here...I don't need more cars on the road here.... Maybe all the places that let foreigners own land turn into shit holes after awhile...I don't know and I don't really want to take the chance. I'd be more likely to support a move to give all the land back to His Royal Majesty The King than to support letting foreigners own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PvtDick Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I've got no problem whatsoever with the land ownership laws as they currently stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 It is tough enough now for Thai people to get onto the property Ladder, opening up the market to Farangs would make it impossible for them. I am a Farang, I agree that Farangs should not be able to buy and own land in Thailand. Just buy it for someone you love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainmal Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 I all thank you for your opinion. I do disagree with you all. Thai's in Bangkok are wealthy, so don't say they cannot afford the property market if foreigners were allowed to own land. Actually, the price of land is right out of reach for the average Thai outside Bangkok ,so if you let foreigners own land it would not cause no problems. Bangkok is an ugly city. The Thai's just build and build and they don't care about the enviroment. You see all the cars in Bangkok only have one person driving in them and the canals are a death trap waiting to happen. The vendors should have a place to sell their goods like a square and not just anywhere on the street to create pediatrain traffic. I understand they need to make a living. The electricity wires are another hazard to happen because they are head length. Nobody complains or does anything because they think it will just change in the future. Thai's are very narrow-minded due their culture. They think lets not complain because it will eventually change. They need to reform Thai culture, don't get me wrong their are also good things in thai culture. They also need to stop brain washing the students with the Thai culture because not all aspects are good. There is good and bad. In the west, we don't use culture to run our life like the thai's do which is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PvtDick Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I all thank you for your opinion. I do disagree with you all. Thai's in Bangkok are wealthy, so don't say they cannot afford the property market if foreigners were allowed to own land. Actually, the price of land is right out of reach for the average Thai outside Bangkok ,so if you let foreigners own land it would not cause no problems. Bangkok is an ugly city. The Thai's just build and build and they don't care about the enviroment. You see all the cars in Bangkok only have one person driving in them and the canals are a death trap waiting to happen. The vendors should have a place to sell their goods like a square and not just anywhere on the street to create pediatrain traffic. I understand they need to make a living. The electricity wires are another hazard to happen because they are head length. Nobody complains or does anything because they think it will just change in the future. Thai's are very narrow-minded due their culture. They think lets not complain because it will eventually change. They need to reform Thai culture, don't get me wrong their are also good things in thai culture. They also need to stop brain washing the students with the Thai culture because not all aspects are good. There is good and bad. In the west, we don't use culture to run our life like the thai's do which is better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And what about the things you rant about will change by allowing foreigners to own land? Don't forget that Westerners aren't the only foreigners. It goes without question that the Chinese will be snapping up most of the country if the laws are relaxed, and they're not exactly prone to environmentally-friendly or attractive development. Have you ever been to Guangzhou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flummoxed Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Although inconvenient, I am happy with the laws as they stand. I am also happy with the difficulty in obtaining residency. If we're honest, there are too many of us here already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 BritainMal you make the mistake of assuming that Bangkok is typical of Thailand. What capital city is typical of the rest of the country. Thailand has one of the highest levels of home ownership around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainmal Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 Thailand is not the only polluter in the world. China and many other Asian countires are gulity too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainmal Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 No, I am refering to Bangkok not the rest of Thailand , but don't think outside Bangkok is Third world. Bangkok has all the wealth in Thailand, but their are other cities outside Bangkok with wealth like for example HattYai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarragona Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I've got no problem whatsoever with the land ownership laws as they currently stand. Agreed. As it seems that women with foreign spouses no longer face problems with owning land, then I don't really think there is any injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Thailand is not the only polluter in the world. China and many other Asian countires are gulity too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What on earth has that to do with your original post about land ownership? Keep to the point otherwise you sound as though you are raving!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Thailand is not the only polluter in the world. China and many other Asian countires are gulity too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What on earth has that to do with your original post about land ownership? Keep to the point otherwise you sound as though you are raving!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hehehe................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainmal Posted November 16, 2004 Author Share Posted November 16, 2004 Actually, I am. A few people wrote before that if Thialand allows foreigners to own land, They will make it more polluted and build like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh Bpen Yang Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I believe, there are certain treaties signed between Thailand and at least one other foreign country that allows for land ownership by both nationalities in both countries. IF this is true it is a simple matter of diplomacy between governments to have rights exchanged between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 What's all the fuss about anyway, if you were allowed to own land here; you couldn't take it to another country. They can keep their land, I would rather have my money safetly invested elswhere, rather than at the mercy of arbitriarily enforced laws. Even Thais that own land have to fight to stop encroachment on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khutan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Its not a problem for me, jest means my wife is better off now than before we married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 If someone wants to settle in a foreign country then they must expect to accept the laws of that country. If you don't like them, you have a choice. I agree with other posters that the law is fine as it is. Land prices in Thailand are already being pushed up by the amount of idiot Farang who buy land for their girlfriends after they have known them for 5 minutes. How many farang in their own country would buy a girlfriend a house after going out with her for a couple of months? If foreigners were able to buy land, it would be a disaster for the locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 How many farang in their own country would buy a girlfriend a house after going out with her for a couple of months? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Loads of them would, especially if they only cost 5,000 Pounds each. But 150,000 Pounds is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorFart Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Loads of them would, especially if they only cost 5,000 Pounds each. Crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Crap. Here Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Crap. Here Here! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So why do they do it in Thailand then, someone got a gun against their temple ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Well, if you want to buy a decent house in Thailand (and they are never really well built), then you have to build your own, and that requires owning the land. Most people don't build their own houses in Western countries. Unless of couse the learned doctor knows something I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Most people don't build their own houses in Western countries. Unless of couse the learned doctor knows something I don't. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it is because they cannot afford to do it in the west, its just too expensive. But there are quite a few Farangs earning enough money in one month to buy land and have a small house built in Thailand. I guess it just depends on the person, everybody is different, I have known Farangs losing houses in pattaya, expensive houses too, no doubt Professor Fart also knows of people in the same situation. But I knew many many people that lost houses that they had paid for to their wives when they got divorced in UK also, I was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorFart Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I've met a good few people over the years who have come unstuck over property in Thailand which is why I always tell people to forget it unless they can afford it. I actually think theres no difference in losing your house in a divorce in the UK and being stung in Thailand. In both cases the law sucks and is stacked against the bloke. The main diference is that there are ways around it in the UK. In Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I've met a good few people over the years who have come unstuck over property in Thailand which is why I always tell people to forget it unless they can afford it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes Fart, I will go along with that. Buy what you can afford to walk away from without feeling suicidal in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phormio Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I've met a good few people over the years who have come unstuck over property in Thailand which is why I always tell people to forget it unless they can afford it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes Fart(HaHa), I will go along with that. Buy what you can afford to walk away from without feeling suicidal in the process. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Come on guys - Fart's crap is CRAP . Bunch of old Farts go to Thailand , get a chick(maybe divorced with 3 kids and not all that good looking) twenty to thirty years younger, who would never have anything to do with the senior farang citizen unless he bought them a freaking house. Pretty simple. Just don't work that way in the "developed" world anymore unless the gent has got true shitloads of crapola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helper Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Oh my, how all you guys just don't know the laws. You can't beat them, but you CAN get round them. Foreigners can own land, and build houses in Thailand. You need to do it through international company ownership. Many foreigners have done this in Thailand. As property bought this way, falls into 'international law' category. Thailand is not the only Asian country where you can't own land. U.A.E, Malaysia, Vietnam, Phillipenes, and many many more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 While I'm not particularly worried about the land laws...the fact that you have to report your address every 3 months when married (on an extension) is farcical!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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