Do You Think A Film That Shows Farangs Murder Thai Orphans Inflames Racism Against Farangs In Thailand?

[Jingthing]

PAD is inflammatory. Ban the PAD! Do us all a favor.

Posting while drunk again? There is help available, you know.

[aehn]

Man, get over this movie already, you made a topic on this already and nobody agreed with you.

FOR THE 10TH TIME ITS ONLY A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, this post modernist jingthing guy is a little obsessed i have to agree

[jumnien]

PAD is inflammatory. Ban the PAD! Do us all a favor.

Posting while drunk again? There is help available, you know.

Drunk on love, baby; drunk on love!

[aehn]

So you consider if there is a killing in a movies by one race of another race to be racist?

OMFG

Look, kind gentleman, this is a POLL.

no it's not! it's Jingthing's usual "ah wanna get rid of mah frustrashon wid dem Thais but ah dunno how"

lol

[Sing_Sling]

How do you think Germans feel about WW2 movies w/concentration camp scenes. Let art happen!

Those are based on actual events. I agree let art happen and don't censor. This film ain't art BTW. Trash would be a better word.

It's Hollywood and has little to do with actual events.

Of course this movie appeals to the great unwashed masses . . . err, uneducated masses and will create - for a short time - ill feelings towards whiteys.

[mizzi39]

This is a followup poll to the popular thread discussing the currently running Hanuman movie. The movie depicts many horrors done by farangs against Thais. Most extremely, the mass murder of Thai orphan children and desecrating a Buddhist shrine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Movie-h...5&start=175

Wow! two threads on the same movie? You truly do like to beat a dead horse jingjing, and yes you are right about being a silly silly man!

[Jingthing]

this post modernist jingthing guy is a little obsessed

Nobody ever called me that before. Post modernist, I mean.

Edited August 19, 2008 by Jingthing

[Sabum]

Well, the pirated vcd is already out and on street corners. If you want to know what the hoopla is all about it will cost you about 70 baht. It must be filmed with a camcorder in the theatre so it will probably be hard to see everything clearly.

[Jingthing]

This is a followup poll to the popular thread discussing the currently running Hanuman movie. The movie depicts many horrors done by farangs against Thais. Most extremely, the mass murder of Thai orphan children and desecrating a Buddhist shrine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Movie-h...5&start=175

Wow! two threads on the same movie? You truly do like to beat a dead horse jingjing, and yes you are right about being a silly silly man!

This is a POLL thread about the topic. I could have started it all as a poll, but I don't think people were aware of the isssues related to the film yet, so I think that would have been a case of premature investigation. And that is never a good thing.

Edited August 19, 2008 by Jingthing

[surface]

I like movies.

I like apples too.

[Dustoff]

So you consider if there is a killing in a movies by one race of another race to be racist?

OMFG

Look, kind gentleman, this is a POLL.

no it's not! it's Jingthing's usual "ah wanna get rid of mah frustrashon wid dem Thais but ah dunno how"

Almost goes without saying, doesn't it? And in massive denial.

How does a thread this ridiculous go on for two pages? The mind boggles..

[scyriacus]

How do you think Germans feel about WW2 movies w/concentration camp scenes. Let art happen!

Those are based on actual events. I agree let art happen and don't censor. This film ain't art BTW. Trash would be a better word.

It's Hollywood and has little to do with actual events.

Of course this movie appeals to the great unwashed masses . . . err, uneducated masses and will create - for a short time - ill feelings towards whiteys.

the actual events: so-called 'whiteys' roamed the whole world for many hundred years, killing each and everyone they pleased for no other reasons than greed and supremacy. the educated few are still ashamed of it. the massive rest is still ranting.........

Edited August 20, 2008 by scyriacus

[Jingthing]

the actual events: so-called 'whiteys' roamed the whole world for many hundred years, killing each and everyone they pleased for no other reasons than greed and supremacy. the educated few are still ashamed of it. the massive rest is still ranting.........

I see.

So do you think it is PAYBACK time?

BTW: my personal view is that the whole of humanity is equally shitty, that there is no such thing as "innocent" brown skinned natives, we are all the same species and carry elements of good and evil within us. So racism is just irrational. But it does serve the practical purpose of states to control their own people and is also effectively used to split up rival groups even WITHIN societies, all in the name of preserving the power status quo of a particular society.

It is also most dramatically used during wartime to dehumanize enemies.

Edited August 20, 2008 by Jingthing

[HS Mauberley]

Do you think a film which portrays Brits as murderous psychopaths (I'm thinking here of Die Hard but there are numerous other examples) inflames racism against Brits in America? I mean, look at those stuck up <deleted> with their cut-glass accents murdering good, Christian, God-fearing Americans by the score. Jesus, I bet most of the Mid-West was just itching to go on some torch lit pogrom through the streets of Hull.

[Jingthing]

Do you think a film which portrays Brits as murderous psychopaths (I'm thinking here of Die Hard but there are numerous other examples) inflames racism against Brits in America? I mean, look at those stuck up <deleted> with their cut-glass accents murdering good, Christian, God-fearing Americans by the score. Jesus, I bet most of the Mid-West was just itching to go on some torch lit pogrom through the streets of Hull.

Yes, Brits are sometimes used as villains in US movies. In that case, not really if I remember the film correctly. Each movie is different. Like anything else, there are degrees. In my view, the INFLAMMATORY nature of Hanuman comes mostly from the extreme and GRAPHIC nature of the farangs actions against Thais in the film: mass murdering poor orphan children, desecrating a Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, kidnapping a sweet little CRIPPLED girl.

Also, the US is still primarily a caucasion dominant race country and so is Britain, so how can that example be RACISM? If you are talking about using ARABS as villains in US movies. Yes, that often is indeed RACIST.

But we can compare world movies to this Thai movie till the cows come home. I raised this topic to talk about this THAI MOVIE in Thailand. So the same thing does happen in other countries. Does that make what is happening in Thailand NOT EXIST?

Edited August 20, 2008 by Jingthing

[HS Mauberley]

Do you think a film which portrays Brits as murderous psychopaths (I'm thinking here of Die Hard but there are numerous other examples) inflames racism against Brits in America? I mean, look at those stuck up <deleted> with their cut-glass accents murdering good, Christian, God-fearing Americans by the score. Jesus, I bet most of the Mid-West was just itching to go on some torch lit pogrom through the streets of Hull.

Yes, Brits are sometimes used as villians in US movies. In that case, not really if I remember the film correctly. Each movie is different. Like anything else, there are degrees. In my view, the INFLAMMATORY nature of Hanuman comes mostly from the extreme and GRAPHIC nature of the farangs actions against Thais in the film: mass murdering poor orphan children, desecrating a Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, kidnapping a sweet little CRIPPLED girl.

That's not an answer. Brits are regularly portrayed as villains in big budget Hollywood films; this happens far, far more often than they receive a favourable portrayal. Brits (and people of other nations but, for whatever reason, Brits seem to be favourites as villains) are shown as being murderous swine in the most graphic way imaginable, far more so than is ever going to be the case in a Thai film. So the question remains: Do these films inflame racial hatred against the British in their audience? Surely the answer must be yes - if a single film in Thailand showing farang in a bad light inflames racial hatred then the recurrent portrayal of a single nationality as being possessed of a stupendous level of murderous evil must have you Yanks frothing at the mouth...or...perhaps...just perhaps, Americans are able to distinguish between fact and fantasy (a wild claim given their national history, but let's be generous.) So why is it that, in your opinion, Thais are not similarly able to distinguish fact and fantasy? Could it be your racist assumptions about their intelligence? Certainly the regularity with which you grind this tedious little axe might indicate so. Other than for the joy of trolling, I don't understand why you come out with this guff. I realise that you like to present yourself as some kind of intellectual and that this is all reasoned debate but the public airing of private prejudice is anything but, particularly so given the fact that you are constantly and continuously corrected by those better informed than you yet you continue to persist with your turgid, asinine posts.

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I see you've edited your post:

Also, the US is still primarily a caucasion dominant race country and so is Britain, so how can that example be RACISM? If you are talking about using ARABS as villains in US movies. Yes, that often is indeed RACIST

OK.You win the definition contest. Let's change 'racist' to 'nationalist hatred'. It makes no significant difference.

But we can compare world movies to this Thai movie till the cows come home. I raised this topic to talk about this THAI MOVIE in Thailand. So the same thing does happen in other countries. Does that make what is happening in Thailand NOT EXIST?

'World movies'? It's an American film and, last time I checked, America did not constitute the world. And the point is that the same thing doesn't happen in other countries.

By the way, it's really not necessary constantly to capitalise words in your text. It's bad form and it makes you look stupid.

Edited August 20, 2008 by HS Mauberley

[Jingthing]

Do these films inflame racial hatred against the British in their audience?

No. British is NOT a race.

That is an answer. Its just you don't like the answer. What do you want from me? I never said I was a great intellectual. I raised a topic about a THAI movie and the situation in Thailand. If you don't like it, bugger off.

Next.

Edited August 20, 2008 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

By the way, it's really not necessary constantly to capitalise words in your text. It's bad form and it makes you look stupid.

I will use EMPHASIS in my posts anyway I please. It is my style. At least I have one.

I already answered your question. If you can't keep on topic to Thailand, not much more to say to you.

Edited August 20, 2008 by Jingthing

[scyriacus]

the actual events: so-called 'whiteys' roamed the whole world for many hundred years, killing each and everyone they pleased for no other reasons than greed and supremacy. the educated few are still ashamed of it. the massive rest is still ranting.........

I see.

So do you think it is PAYBACK time?

BTW: my personal view is that the whole of humanity is equally shitty, that there is no such thing as "innocent" brown skinned natives, we are all the same species and carry elements of good and evil within us. So racism is just irrational. But it does serve the practical purpose of states to control their own people and is also effectively used to split up rival groups even WITHIN societies, all in the name of preserving the power status quo of a particular society.

It is also most dramatically used during wartime to dehumanize enemies.

i strongly disagree with 'payback'. this has to be stopped once and forever. but all your other arguments i agree. the movie industry is part of the 'military-industrial-complex' and provides the propaganda to be misused later by the 'brainwashed' masses. so don't worry about one single movie, please! see the much wider scope of tv & brainwashing.............WE are the GOOD! the OTHERS are the 'axis of evil'

[Jingthing]

i strongly disagree with 'payback

How could you disagree? I didn't say anything about it! I was just asking the other poster if HE thought it was payback time. I don't have any opinion on that one.

[barky]

Having read much of the thread and the related one, one thing I can ask is that those people who say the portrayal of westeners in this disgustingly negative way is of no consequence, and no harm will come from it, and that it should be taken with a grain of salt do you think it is a goodand positive thing? Do you think it will not in any way reflect badly on westeners actually living here? ( for those who don't actually live here your opinion is of little value as you are very unlikely to be affected in any way shape or form) Do you think it's OK for westeners to be portrayed like this for arts sake? If you think its all OK a bit of harmless fun then I absolutely disagree. It must be remembered that many Thais don't know their arse from their elbow and follow like sheep and many will believe everything they have seen in the movie. Oh yes they will. And you can't see why this is not a good thing for westeners living here?

[HS Mauberley]

many Thais don't know their arse from their elbow and follow like sheep and many will believe everything they have seen in the movie.

I think it's fairly clear where the racism lies in all this.

[scyriacus]

i strongly disagree with 'payback

How could you disagree? I didn't say anything about it! I was just asking the other poster if HE thought it was payback time. I don't have any opinion on that one.

i can disagree! and i do! it's not the time for 'payback'. what's your opinion on that one? i think it's time for a bit of modesty by the 'whiteys'..............

[barky]

many Thais don't know their arse from their elbow and follow like sheep and many will believe everything they have seen in the movie.

I think it's fairly clear where the racism lies in all this.

You either don't live in Thailand or you you observation skills are extremely poor. I din't call them racist either that's your word fool.

[lannarebirth]

i strongly disagree with 'payback

How could you disagree? I didn't say anything about it! I was just asking the other poster if HE thought it was payback time. I don't have any opinion on that one.

i can disagree! and i do! it's not the time for 'payback'. what's your opinion on that one? i think it's time for a bit of modesty by the 'whiteys'..............

Working title for this film "The Wrath Of Khan".

[Jingthing]

i strongly disagree with 'payback

How could you disagree? I didn't say anything about it! I was just asking the other poster if HE thought it was payback time. I don't have any opinion on that one.

i can disagree! and i do! it's not the time for 'payback'. what's your opinion on that one? i think it's time for a bit of modesty by the 'whiteys'..............

No opinion. Doesn't really interest me.

[HS Mauberley]

many Thais don't know their arse from their elbow and follow like sheep and many will believe everything they have seen in the movie.

I think it's fairly clear where the racism lies in all this.

You either don't live in Thailand or you you observation skills are extremely poor. I din't call them racist either that's your word fool.

I both live in Thailand and have excellent observational skills, thanks. And as I thought you might have noticed, racism was introduced in the title of the thread, of which you wrote (and doubtless voted) in support. What was that you were saying about observational skills?

As invariably happens on these threads, those who squeal loudest about racism are, without exception, those with the most racist views.

[Jingthing]

Just a note of interest: the poll is TIED now. I am a bit surprised the YES votes are so numerous. I guess the rose colored glasses faction isn't as large as I thought.

Edited August 20, 2008 by Jingthing

[scyriacus]

many Thais don't know their arse from their elbow and follow like sheep and many will believe everything they have seen in the movie.

I think it's fairly clear where the racism lies in all this.

i agree! and the grand grand childen have to pay the price for the sins of their forefathers....."a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation." (Exodus 20:5, Deuteronomy 5:9)

Edited August 20, 2008 by scyriacus

[HASSELHOFF]

Just a note of interest: the poll is TIED now. I am a bit surprised the YES votes are so numerous. I guess the rose colored glasses faction isn't as large as I thought.

I voted yes for the hel_l of it as its a silly poll. Im sure others did too. Also I think we all know its just a movie and there are many like this all over the world.