Crushdepth Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) Self explanatory. Can Samak talk his way out of this mess? If not, when will he go? Edited August 29, 2008 by Crushdepth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Its not looking good, Bangkok declared under a state of emregency, the military put in control... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7592942.stm Theres talk of a curfew in Bangkok tonight, lets see... I'll give him until the weekend (5th/6th/7th) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrong Turn Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 If Samak steps down, will things change? I doubt it. There have been these issues before and there likely will be them in the future. All in all, hopefully the economy can chug along and people can be optimistic about their futures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNew2You Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) What difference would it make...we seem to be going in circles...military intervention...puppet government...election...TRT or TRT "Nominee" party elected with Issan support...Bangkok technocrats and elites protest "people's choice" and urge supporters in military/bureaucracy to oust elected government...military intervention...and on and on it goes for almost 3 years now! I know Thais are Buddhist and believe in a circle of life but his is ridiculous. Edited September 2, 2008 by NotNew2You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I reckon Samak's party will dump him fairly soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I reckon Samak's party will dump him fairly soon. Quite right too ! His blatant failure to send in the storm-troopers, and exonerate Thaksin/TRT of all wrong-doing (past and future) , make him unfit to lead the country PPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) I reckon Samak's party will dump him fairly soon. The sooner the better, if I was Thai I would have to hang my head in shame after watching this idiot on TV at various time in parliment making paper cranes, picking his nose and stuffing his face with food while looking so disinterested in the whole affair of what is happening round him. . Edited September 2, 2008 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Samak has right on his side, so I think he muddles on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Samak has right on his side, so I think he muddles on. Muddles on as in "muddle a'long" - To continue doing something without any clear plan or purpose . (Oxford Dictionary 6th edit.) This sounds like just what the country needs at the moment - inaction - no direction - no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) He was legally elected to the office, so he should not need a plan. He could crush the mob of illegal demonstators, but he seems to want to avoid that. Edited September 2, 2008 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yabaaaa Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Samak has right on his side, so I think he muddles on. Muddles on as in "muddle a'long" - To continue doing something without any clear plan or purpose . (Oxford Dictionary 6th edit.) This sounds like just what the country needs at the moment - inaction - no direction - no idea. Sounds familiar........... just like the UK now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankman Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) New elections as soon as possible, the only way! Edited September 2, 2008 by frankman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Why bother? The PPP would just win again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 He'll stay in power until the troops are ordered back to barracks. Of course it ought to be him and his government who are in charge of the troops.... but .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmushr00m Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 he's done like yesterdays dinner. Notice how all the state control enterprises (run by old school establishments) have lined up in support of the People Against Democracy. The military is just waiting for him to do something stupid then move in as the shinning knights to stop the unrest and bloodshed........and I have a very bad feeling that it will be bloody. Hope I am very very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 he's done like yesterdays dinner............. (run by old ........establishments) have lined up in support of the People Against Democracy. they really don't like new upcoming clans like the clan of Thaksin, na? no way, thats our beloved Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losangels Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Very interesting coincidence to the State of Emergency declared on the same date the court is scheduled to rule on PPP's electoral fraud....or was it planned all along? BTW is there a curfew tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Even though I have an opinion, this inane poll left me no other option but 'no opinion'. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 PAD and its military bosses that pull the PAD puppet strings are in for a surprise. Samak's tenacity and strength while under fire is winning him support amongst those that toil and make the money that keep PAD supporters in their luxury homes and expensive autos. Samak's supporters are the workers of the nation, the farmers. the people that keep Thailand humming. The international government community has quietly rallied to Samak's side not because they like Samak but because the foreign governments want Thailand to continue to have civilian rule. Even the military hierarchy is hesitating. The junior ranks are made up of conscripts and volunteers, many of whom come from the geographic areas that voted for the Samak's party. If ordered to attack their own communities, they might mutiny. Don't laugh. There are a few military leaders that came from similar backgrounds and punched their military leaders in the nose. Fellow by the name of Chavez comes to mind, and who wants another wacko like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctormann Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I reckon Samak's party will dump him fairly soon. The sooner the better, if I was Thai I would have to hang my head in shame after watching this idiot on TV at various time in parliment making paper cranes, picking his nose and stuffing his face with food while looking so disinterested in the whole affair of what is happening round him. . Could just be my perception but does Samak look like an angry gorilla to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimsKnight Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 You are not the first to think that mate! Samak carries himself in an Idi Amin-esque manner when I see him on TV ! Sorry if that sounds racist but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 he's done like yesterdays dinner............. (run by old ........establishments) have lined up in support of the People Against Democracy. they really don't like new upcoming clans like the clan of Thaksin, na? no way, thats our beloved Thailand Thaksin & his cronies managed to take looting & pillaging to new highs (or is that lows?) which somewhat upset the old 'order' because they had not thought of it first. They now want to retake their 'rightful' place at the top & perfect the art of theivery 'Thaksin style', after all it is their turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 PAD Demands 70 Percent of Referendum Votes Appointed By Bureaucracy People who know better deserve more influence, says Sondhi BANGKOK – Responding to the government’s decision to settle the current political crisis through a nationwide referendum, the People’s Alliance For Democracy has tentatively accepted the proposal in principle so long as the votes are 30% from voters and 70% appointed. This ratio is on line with the PAD’s stated ideal of Thai democracy, where election results are moderated by people who know better than easily-deceived upcountry voters. “We are willing to work with the despised and criminal Samak government on this,” announced Sondhi Limthongkul, one of the PAD leaders. “Let the referendum show what the Thai people are really thinking, with 70% of their thoughts appointed by moral and social leaders.” He vowed that the PAD would honor the results and stop protesting if a majority showed support for the current government, but expressed confidence that the votes would prove that the PAD’s mandate was the most popular. The Samak government had no response to the PAD demands as of press time, but analysts believe that they will object to the conditions and press for the “traditional” referendum system of one person, one vote. ASTV and Manager have already broadcast editorials strongly condemning this “pluralist” system of democracy as “corrupt” and “anti-Thai.” According to Sondhi, the 70% of referendum votes will be chosen by an elite panel of retired generals, titled Bangkok families, and the board of the Crown Property Bureau. The counting of the votes will be done by the Army. NTN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Fellow by the name of Chavez comes to mind, and who wants another wacko like him. The Chavez's of this world are necessary to counter balance the other fruitcakes that hold positions of power. I was impressed by his speech to the General Assembly of the United Nations "The devil came here yesterday, and it smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of." At that point, Chávez made the sign of the cross, positioned his hands as if praying, and looked briefly up to the ceiling. He continued "Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the President of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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