Girl In Bar Needs Saving

[The Gentleman Scamp]

I'll go into more detail if this recieves any interest.

There is a girl in Patong, small, cute, but with a wise yet sad look in her eyes who is one of the few BG's I've ever met who just doesn't belong in a bar.

She's been let down by a farang man who had arranged to meet her in Bangkok and didn't show up.

She just wants to meet a decent man who will give her a good life and that's it.

She's an attractive single mum of one who simply doesn't belong in a bar and she'd be a great girlfriend to have if only she met the right man.

If anyone reading is looking for a relationship and is fed up of playing the field then reply here or PM me.

Why am I trying to help this girl?

Because when I didn't have a pot to piss in she bought me food when I was hungry and gave me 500 bht when I was skint and stuck in Patong without expecting anything in return other than friendship.

There seems to be very little to help Thai single mums and I want to do something to help... Especially this one.

Regards,

Scamp

[RDN]

.....There seems to be very little to help Thai single mums and I want to do something to help... Especially this one.

Regards,

Scamp

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Good on yer, Scampy!

[Khutan]

I wish I knew someone who has a good heart and can take on a meaningful relationship.

[ray23]

I'll go into more detail if this recieves any interest.

There is a girl in Patong, small, cute, but with a wise yet sad look in her eyes who is one of the few BG's I've ever met who just doesn't belong in a bar.

She's been let down by a farang man who had arranged to meet her in Bangkok and didn't show up.

She just wants to meet a decent man who will give her a good life and that's it.

She's an attractive single mum of one who simply doesn't belong in a bar and she'd be a great girlfriend to have if only she met the right man.

If anyone reading is looking for a relationship and is fed up of playing the field then reply here or PM me.

Why am I trying to help this girl?

Because when I didn't have a pot to piss in she bought me food when I was hungry and gave me 500 bht when I was skint and stuck in Patong without expecting anything in return other than friendship.

There seems to be very little to help Thai single mums and I want to do something to help... Especially this one.

Regards,

Scamp

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You might be a Scamp, but what you are is a REAL Gentleman.

I consider myself to be a hard man, but this post really choked me up. I am married now to a Thai woman. Had I not been I would certainly follow this idea up in a serious manner.

After my first visit to Thailand, Phuket, it was my intention to find and marry a girl from one of the bars. I have already married 4 ferangs and found them undeserving bitches. Two had affairs and one with a ''friend'' of mine, who, when I found out, had to disappear. But that's another story.

I was like the regular 'John' in Thailand and did take advantage of the situation, much to my present shame. When I came back to Greece, (I am English) I made up my mind to return to Thailand and try to find somebody such as the lady you speak of here, who 'deserves' a far better life.

It is a long story, but I met my present wife by chance and some wierd circumstances. She was an interior designer in BKK and in her own way, also in need of something better in life.

I would URGE any decent guy in need of, or wanting to marry a Thai, to get in touch with this Gentleman. I do not know him, but from what I read, he is a good man with a great heart. Somebody I would trust.

If you worry about a woman being after your money, 'most' of them are. My belief is, if you are getting what you want and she is getting what she wants, you should both be happy in the relationship. It does not matter what each other's wants, needs and desires are... so long as they are met for 'both' parties.

Good for you GentlemanScamp!

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Just wanted to say that this was certainly refreshing from a lot of the items I have read there is a different side of the coin to Thailand, that not many bother to talk about. If I find a likely canidate I certainly will refer him to this, don't know any at the moment

[britmaveric]

Scampy...curious mate why didnt you go for it yourself? You are a nice lad, so I'd have to say she couldnt find any better than yourself. (all problems aside that is)

Is this the gal with the Cowboy Hat? (sorry I had to bring that up - stilll waiting among others to hear that story)

[cdnvic]

Scamp, if you are looking for a way to make a few extra bucks you should try writing if you already aren't. You have a great talent at getting your thoughts down that makes it a pleasure to read.

As for the girl I wish you the best of luck. You seem like a pretty decent guy.

cheers

cv

[infidel]

I'll go into more detail if this recieves any interest.

There is a girl in Patong, small, cute, but with a wise yet sad look in her eyes who is one of the few BG's I've ever met who just doesn't belong in a bar.

She's been let down by a farang man who had arranged to meet her in Bangkok and didn't show up.

She just wants to meet a decent man who will give her a good life and that's it.

She's an attractive single mum of one who simply doesn't belong in a bar and she'd be a great girlfriend to have if only she met the right man.

If anyone reading is looking for a relationship and is fed up of playing the field then reply here or PM me.

Why am I trying to help this girl?

Because when I didn't have a pot to piss in she bought me food when I was hungry and gave me 500 bht when I was skint and stuck in Patong without expecting anything in return other than friendship.

There seems to be very little to help Thai single mums and I want to do something to help... Especially this one.

Regards,

Scamp

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Are you sure you weren't rod_kalashnikov?

[chonabot]

Are you sure you weren't rod_kalashnikov? 

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If you had been around long enough you would know that Scamp was here a tad before Mr AK47....

Alas , there are thousands of similar "Dork Thong" ( Gold Flowers) with hearts of Gold working in the industry , it would be great if Scamp's plea were to be met by someone of decent intent. The odds are stacked against , but good on you for trying. The majority reading this tome will have that smug ivory tower attitude.

All Ladies are the same , good and Bad in all walks of life.

Take it from me , I know.

Hope she makes it.

[chuchok]

Are you sure you weren't rod_kalashnikov? 

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If you had been around long enough you would know that Scamp was here a tad before Mr AK47....

Alas , there are thousands of similar "Dork Thong" ( Gold Flowers) with hearts of Gold working in the industry , it would be great if Scamp's plea were to be met by someone of decent intent. The odds are stacked against , but good on you for trying. The majority reading this tome will have that smug ivory tower attitude.

All Ladies are the same , good and Bad in all walks of life.

Take it from me , I know.

Hope she makes it.

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Ain't that the truth. As bad a rap as BG's get, I've seen some incredible acts of kindness. I hope she does well.

[The Gentleman Scamp]

I'm surprised, not to mention flattered at the response to this, and I've already had a PM from somebody expressing interest on behalf of a friend.

To reply to Britty, she's not the one with the cowboy hat - poles apart in fact, and I will give you all a good laugh and tell you what happened there at some point.

The reason that I am not with this girl (Rose her name is) is that I don't have enough security in Thailand, not yet anyway.

Also, I she's not my type, I prefer bigger stronger women (with cowboy hats!) ...No but seriously, I've only just started taking care of myself and I'm neither ready or really mature enough to take on the responsibility of stepfatherhood - though the kid lives up north, probably with the grandma.

Like a couple of friendships I've made in Thailand, this started with a couple of nights spent together and I find it difficult to continue the physical side of things with somebody I am growing fonder of as a friend, not wanting to get too involved and build up hopes in a heart which has already had enough dissapointment.

You could also say I'm so used to the wrong type of woman that I'm more comfortable with it which is a problem I have to sort out, but not until my own life is sorted out and I have some sort of secure working future here.

As my own life is getting a little more tidy then I want to help others who have helped me if I can, and Thaivisa.com is a great tool that I have used to help myself and can hopefully use to help others.

This country has changed my life and if I can give something back then I will, with the help of other good hearted gentlemen and scamps - there's plenty of us out there, I just open up on here and sometimes good comes out of it and sometimes I get egg on my face.

I do love this forum, it's potential to help is massive.

More about Rose soon, I should call her and let her know I've had some response, I'm not sure what to do next, I suppose wait a week or two and just ask those interested to PM or e-mail some sort of profile.

Hope this results in something, when (hopefully not 'if') the day comes that I have a regular way to make a living and settle here properly, at least for most of the year, I would like to someday set up a charity for Thai single mums as, to my knowledge, there doesn't seem to be one.

...Yet there's one for stray dogs on Ko Samui.

[medicinebox]

With respect scamp. Are you an authority on the subject of good and bad bargirls? Is anyone?

One day yester year, I was driving to London from Teeside on the A1. The sky darkened and the heavans opened. The surface spray was akin to a car wash. Wipers on full belt helped me guess my way.

Approaching A huge dirty truck in the slow lane, a car 4 car spaces in front of me. 60mph all of us. The truck indicated to pull out into the fast lane. I dropped back and the car in front was halfway into overtaking the truck.

I sat behind and to the right of the indicating truck. I had decided not to try to overtake him, so I flashed him as if to say "Im staying here mate".

Only trouble was, the driver of the car was having a hard time passing him with the surface spray. As you do when you test your nerve in heavy rain.

The truck then proceeded to cross into the fast lane, where the car was still beside him. The car responded by lurching toward the central reservation barriers to avoid being swiped. The car driver must have blared his horn, because just as the truck and car and barrier were millimeters from doing 'auld lang syne' the truck swerved back toward the slow lane. That rig danced for 30 seconds and how the fukc that truck driver stoped it jack knifing remains a mystery to me till this day.

My fault, his fault I don't know and don't much care. But that taught me a valuable lesson that day.

Don't take another persons word for anything.

Scamp, I know you are trying to do a good thing here, but I had to bring this subject up. You could be installing a false sense of security for some decent guy.

Of course we are big boys and use our own initiative.

Most of us.

[britmaveric]

Faire enuf Scamp- least you are honest about things even with dear Rose. Still waiting on the story about the gal in the cowboy hat!!! heheh

Ravisher- Scampy a matchmaker? We all know his track record as of late and I don't think it would be wise to let him fiddle with other people's love lives. I'll make the exception with Rose- because she honestly sounds like a good lady since she looked out for Scampy when he was at his low point. (not alot ladies or bg(s) would have done that)

[ProfessorFart]

I'd still take it all with a pinch of salt...........

[DragonLad]

I'm surprised, not to mention flattered at the response to this, and I've already had a PM from somebody expressing interest on behalf of a friend.

I've Responed to Mr. Scamp via a PM. My Friend is interested in meeting a nice thai woman regardless of what she does for a living, He is fed up with American girls and want's a true and meaningful relationship.

I told Mr. Scamp I would not post to this but I am very curious about this now. I will be going to Thailand next August with my friend. I have been there many times. but he has not and want's to know a girl before going.

Thanks to Mr. Scamp.

DL

[LivinLOS]

Hope this results in something, when (hopefully not 'if') the day comes that I have a regular way to make a living and settle here properly, at least for most of the year, I would like to someday set up a charity for Thai single mums as, to my knowledge, there doesn't seem to be one.

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As a few others have pointed out, there are many girls choosing to make thier income in the bar trade, many of which may be deserving cases for charity, however...

If you want to really pick a cause that needs help I suggest you have a look at what happens to women (from the bar trade or not) that end up HIV+.. Social stigma, no income, no free medicines, expensive treatments, left basically to die a slow sick death alone.

If you wish to be charitable I would think you should try for where it is most needed.

[LivinLOS]

I was not attempting to be critical of a geniunely nice response merely point out it is easy to get White Knight syndrome when the recipient of this charity is a attractive young lady with questionable morals (note, no judgements, by this scale my morals are unquentionably poor)..

However rather than looking to be charitable to such a recipient I would say that there are other people in society that are far more needy and for whome a far greater difference could be made.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

I'm surprised, not to mention flattered at the response to this, and I've already had a PM from somebody expressing interest on behalf of a friend.

To reply to Britty, she's not the one with the cowboy hat - poles apart in fact, and I will give you all a good laugh and tell you what happened there at some point.

The reason that I am not with this girl (Rose her name is) is that I don't have enough security in Thailand, not yet anyway.

Also, I she's not my type, I prefer bigger stronger women (with cowboy hats!) ...No but seriously, I've only just started taking care of myself and I'm neither ready or really mature enough to take on the responsibility of stepfatherhood - though the kid lives up north, probably with the grandma.

Like a couple of friendships I've made in Thailand, this started with a couple of nights spent together and I find it difficult to continue the physical side of things with somebody I am growing fonder of as a friend, not wanting to get too involved and build up hopes in a heart which has already had enough dissapointment.

You could also say I'm so used to the wrong type of woman that I'm more comfortable with it which is a problem I have to sort out, but not until my own life is sorted out and I have some sort of secure working future here.

As my own life is getting a little more tidy then I want to help others who have helped me if I can, and Thaivisa.com is a great tool that I have used to help myself and can hopefully use to help others.

This country has changed my life and if I can give something back then I will, with the help of other good hearted gentlemen and scamps - there's plenty of us out there, I just open up on here and sometimes good comes out of it and sometimes I get egg on my face.

I do love this forum, it's potential to help is massive.

More about Rose soon, I should call her and let her know I've had some response, I'm not sure what to do next, I suppose wait a week or two and just ask those interested to PM or e-mail some sort of profile.

Hope this results in something, when (hopefully not 'if') the day comes that I have a regular way to make a living and settle here properly, at least for most of the year, I would like to someday set up a charity for Thai single mums as, to my knowledge, there doesn't seem to be one.

...Yet there's one for stray dogs on Ko Samui. 

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Learning to effectively look after yourself might be a good start Scamp. When will the B visa come to pass ?

[The Gentleman Scamp]

I spoke to a female friend I work with about this very subject.

She was more concerned about setting a man up from the internet with the girl, she also said that the idea was not far short of an internet bride business and that it's using one crutch to support another crutch and that she should help herself get out of her situation.

I don't agree with her completely, I know the bargirl seen, she knows only what she's read in that Sex Slaves book, something I should get round to reading myself.

It's not white knight syndrome, she's not a stunner, just a small but good looking girl stuck in a bar with no way out and getting let down by men... There's currently one who started a friendship with her who is now groping and hassling her when drunk.

Regarding me setting her up with a guy who turns out to beat her black & blue - that would be unlikely if he lived in Phuket but if she had the chance of leaving the country (not what she's after BTW, she's not after being rich or a green card, she just wants to be happy) - then it's a possiblility and something I would have on my head if it happened... How can you vet somebody? ...You can know somebody ten years but not know what they are like with their wife behind the scenes.

Also, what if an interested guy meets her and decides she's not the one?

There's lots of things to consider here, and I do wonder if I'm doing the right thing.

Ravisher - I'm not ready to start a charity yet but I do think it's a fantastic idea and I will start a post in general at some opint on the subject.

Anyway, so far the responses I've had via PM from people all sound genuine and with decent intentions.

If I do end up giving away her whereabouts, just have a few drinks with her, maybe take her home, but most importantly, be a gentleman and don't get her hopes up too much until you are sure if she's what you want.

I'll have more free time next week to go through the private replies.

[cdnvic]

it's using one crutch to support another crutch and that she should help herself get out of her situation.

It's not white knight syndrome, she's not a stunner, just a small but good looking girl stuck in a bar with no way out and getting let down by men...

I think your friend is right. Being a friend and helping her out is great, but unless you let her do most of the work, with you as a more worldly advisor, she's likely to fall into the same trap once you're gone. Not that you're gonna abandon her, but you know how life throws curves at us.....

As for pointing the finger at the men who have let her down, they may be somewhat at fault but she's the one ultimately responsible for herself. It seems sometimes that when a woman becomes a CEO its all her doing, but when she becomes a stripper or a prostitute then it must be a man's fault. Same goes for men who turn into drunks and blame the ex.

I'm not denying that there are evil bastards out there, far from it. They exist and for that reason she needs to learn to take a stand and make her own positive choices, so that she can take care of herself in the future, regardless of whether or not there's a man there to help her.

cv

[Totster]

I spoke to a female friend I work with about this very subject.

She was more concerned about setting a man up from the internet with the girl, she also said that the idea was not far short of an internet bride business and that it's using one crutch to support another crutch and that she should help herself get out of her situation.

I don't agree with her completely, I know the bargirl seen, she knows only what she's read in that Sex Slaves book, something I should get round to reading myself.

It's not white knight syndrome, she's not a stunner, just a small but good looking girl stuck in a bar with no way out and getting let down by men...  There's currently one who started a friendship with her who is now groping and hassling her when drunk.

Regarding me setting her up with a guy who turns out to beat her black & blue - that would be unlikely if he lived in Phuket but if she had the chance of leaving the country (not what she's after BTW, she's not after being rich or a green card, she just wants to be happy) - then it's a possiblility and something I would have on my head if it happened...  How can you vet somebody?  ...You can know somebody ten years but not know what they are like with their wife behind the scenes.

Also, what if an interested guy meets her and decides she's not the one?

There's lots of things to consider here, and I do wonder if I'm doing the right thing.

Ravisher - I'm not ready to start a charity yet but I do think it's a fantastic idea and I will start a post in general at some opint on the subject.

Anyway, so far the responses I've had via PM from people all sound genuine and with decent intentions.

If I do end up giving away her whereabouts, just have a few drinks with her, maybe take her home, but most importantly, be a gentleman and don't get her hopes up too much until you are sure if she's what you want.

I'll have more free time next week to go through the private replies.

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Scamp.. Just another point that should be made... If you introduce two people together and it all goes wrong... (i.e, he turns out to be a wife beater, she turns out to be a knob slasher..etc)... you could end up getting a lot of sh1t from friends of these two as it is "all your fault, you got them together, you said she was ok, you recommended him etc..". Make sure they know the ground rules... it is all their responsibilty, no come back on you, you are just introducing, the rest is up to them.

Chok Dee

totster

[Pink Mist]

another thing to consider, there are a lot of nice guys who visit Phuket and there have been a lot of successfull liasons, so maybe let nature take it's course.

[infidel]

Are you sure you weren't rod_kalashnikov? 

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If you had been around long enough you would know that Scamp was here a tad before Mr AK47....

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And I was here a tad before Mr. Scamp, but not as Mr. Infidel. I just didn't say anything. ThaiVisa isn't quite my cup of tea.

I have the honour, and I don't use the word lightly, of knowing who the guy who used to post as rod_kalashnikov really is. He's regarded like Mother Theresa by bargirls whose lives he touched. I was complimenting Mr. Scamp by comparing him with Mr. AK47, not taking the piss.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Are you sure you weren't rod_kalashnikov? 

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If you had been around long enough you would know that Scamp was here a tad before Mr AK47....

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And I was here a tad before Mr. Scamp, but not as Mr. Infidel. I just didn't say anything. ThaiVisa isn't quite my cup of tea.

I have the honour, and I don't use the word lightly, of knowing who the guy who used to post as rod_kalashnikov really is. He's regarded like Mother Theresa by bargirls whose lives he touched. I was complimenting Mr. Scamp by comparing him with Mr. AK47, not taking the piss.

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To compare Rod to Mother Theresa is drawing a very long bow I reckon

[The Gentleman Scamp]

I've got three people interested in meeting Rose, now what do I do?

Call her and tell her to set up three auditions?

[DragonLad]

I just don't want to come across as my friend is desparate, he just has had some really back luck with american girls. It starts off really well then it just gets worse and worse. I myself have never dated an asian woman. I have other friends that have had and they say it was a very nice enjoyable time with them.

Certain things beyond their control made them break up but have heard only positive feedback from them about asian women. I ran across the forum to actually find information about thailand and I saw Mr. Scamp's thread.

My friend and I live in North Dakota and not many asian people here. He is now looking at websites for single asian women. He has remarked that their are many beautiful ones looking for men. I thought I could help by asking Mr. Scamp about his friend.

I am not too experienced with Thailand. But is a Bargirl a Hooker?? Or am I wrong? Please no offence to your friend Mr. Scamp. I have been to thailand but it was mostly for volunteer work, mostly building houses and such. Some of the places I been to I was the only white person for miles. The Kids got a kick out of me. Gave them candy most of the time. Never been to the bars in the tourist areas. knew one girl she work as one but I alway's thought she worked in a bar and that's it.

[DragonLad]

My Friend's name is robert and he use to be in the US Army. Was wih the special forces. He is an honrobale man and never been in any trouble during his life. He just has a rough time with women. He was wounded during the fighting in somalia when our government sent troops there, He just got out not too long ago. been in 15 years and has a disibilty pension. he is 38 years old. he talks about going to iraq all the time. but then I hit him with a Beer Bottle. Just Kidding.

It's up to your friend mr scamp, of course.

Bye for now

DL

P. S. He was sent to Thailand a few times for training with the Thai Military but he was so busy and tired when he got off duty he never got a chance to see the country, but he has remarked on how nice the soldiers were to him. My first post i said he was never in thailand before. I guess I was wrong, try to get info from former military is very hard. tight lipped man i must say. Like the Old Saying "If I tell You I'll have to kill you"

[et33.com]

me think some one may be trying to dump some poor girl after bedding her and not paying up...

[The Gentleman Scamp]

P. S.  He was sent to Thailand a few times for training with the Thai Military but he was so busy and tired when he got off duty he never got a chance to see the country

I think it would be better for her to be with somebody who already knows Thailand well, however, I think that your friend could benefit from seeing more of Thailand, then he would meet plenty of girls and could make a choice without letting anyone down or feeling he had pinned his hopes on one girl without seeing what was out there which is something that would possibly happen.

Withn repect, she needs somebody who already lives here, knows Thailand well and has played the field, done the barscene and understands about it and but is fed up with it and wants to settle with somebody different to what he was used to.

[Thetyim]

..

[DragonLad]

P. S.   He was sent to Thailand a few times for training with the Thai Military but he was so busy and tired when he got off duty he never got a chance to see the country

I think it would be better for her to be with somebody who already knows Thailand well, however, I think that your friend could benefit from seeing more of Thailand, then he would meet plenty of girls and could make a choice without letting anyone down or feeling he had pinned his hopes on one girl without seeing what was out there which is something that would possibly happen.

Withn repect, she needs somebody who already lives here, knows Thailand well and has played the field, done the barscene and understands about it and but is fed up with it and wants to settle with somebody different to what he was used to.

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I understand Mr Scamp. The one thing I do not understand is it sounds as if your coming across as if he has to play the field?? What if he is not that type of man. He knows a little of thailand and I know him well enough to know he would not enjoy the barscene for long. Well it is up to your friend of course and I hope she finds what she wants. but by the sounds of your reply the pickings sound not at all the best. good luck to her.

DL