werbs Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 i was just watching BBC world and they were talking about thaksin. they spoke to the BBC reporter in Bangkok and then started talking to a guy from Chulalonkorn Uni on the phone. the guys name was Giles but he had a thai surname, in his photo however he was farang. Anyway he starts talking about thaksin and then starts to talk about the thai military and he went on to to say the thai military was also corrupt, then very shortly after the line went dead surely they can't have cut him off so quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 BBC probably ran out of money,thais would n't care who said what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Assuming it wasn't a technical glitsch the BBC probably cut him off before he started spouting some slanderous views. They, as much as anybody, probably realise the shaky state of affairs in the country and how the person you p1ss off today could be tomorrow's supremo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 BBC probably ran out of money,thais would n't care who said what. Actually it would not surprise me in the least that Achaan Giles Ji Ungpakorn, one of the government's most ardent critics, has his phone lines monitored by numerous Thai government agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKAsok Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 ...went on to to say the thai military was also corrupt Maybe the BBC didn't consider this to be 'news.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unomi Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Just posted about this myself on the Thaksin corruption thread. Glad it got noticed by others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen33 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass.Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? Ungpakorn G, J. (1999) Class Struggle in an Era of Economic Crisis, Hongkong, Bangkok: Asia Monitor Resources Centre. Ungpakorn G, J. (ed.) (2003). Radicalising Thailand: New Political Perspectives. Bangkok: Institute of Asian Studies, Chulalongkorn University. Ungpakorn G, J. (2007). A Coup for the Rich. Bangkok: Workers’ Democracy Publishing. The last is the one that attracted the most attention, initially being banned in Thailand for citing Handley’s The King Never Smiles. If you are interested look here: http://www.isj.org.uk/docs/CFRbook.pdf Ungpakorn's father opposed the military government in the 1970s. His mother is British. Edited October 21, 2008 by citizen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 His Wikipedia entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? His own university bookstore refuses to sell it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnieCauldwell Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? Look up the website "asiasentinnel" you will find the guy on there in the Thailand section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I wonder if he was on AIS or DTAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 flying spaghetti monsters cut the connection.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 So is he a communist or just like to use the same type of language to promote his views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los78 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I saw this also and wondered why he was cut off. He mentioned military curruption during the Junta government and someone didnt like it that comment so he was quickly cut off. Offcoarse there was some truth in that but we dont want the world to know that do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los78 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? His own university bookstore refuses to sell it.... Yes if you failed to put on your reading glasses it was because he referenced a banned book in Thailand. Give it a good read again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KohKarrang Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Someone mentioned this guy being an ardent critic of the government but I've heard him make comments all throughout this episode in Thailands history and he's a pretty ardent critic of everything IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? His own university bookstore refuses to sell it.... Yes if you failed to put on your reading glasses it was because he referenced a banned book in Thailand. Give it a good read again. Don't use reading glasses and fully aware this nutcase had his book banned... but still think it's funny that as a professor, even before the banning his own school wouldn't carry it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_r Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? His own university bookstore refuses to sell it.... Yes if you failed to put on your reading glasses it was because he referenced a banned book in Thailand. Give it a good read again. Don't use reading glasses and fully aware this nutcase had his book banned... but still think it's funny that as a professor, even before the banning his own school wouldn't carry it... It very much depends on the reasons why the bookshop refused to carry it. If it was because the book content is -objectively- not worth selling, then yes it's funny. If it was because of pressures from "upstairs", then I think not so funny, regarding freedom of speech etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unomi Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Err, maybe its time to get reading glasses then.. The book store WAS carrying it, then it got taken off for the reference to 'the king never smiles', then later again it was allowed to be had in stock after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los78 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... I read a manuscript of a book he wrote, this was years ago, all i remember was that it was kickass. Anyone know where I could find books by him and the like? His own university bookstore refuses to sell it.... Yes if you failed to put on your reading glasses it was because he referenced a banned book in Thailand. Give it a good read again. Don't use reading glasses and fully aware this nutcase had his book banned... but still think it's funny that as a professor, even before the banning his own school wouldn't carry it... It very much depends on the reasons why the bookshop refused to carry it. If it was because the book content is -objectively- not worth selling, then yes it's funny. If it was because of pressures from "upstairs", then I think not so funny, regarding freedom of speech etc. It was banned because of pressure from "Upstairs" because he reference a banned book in Thailand regarding Monarchy. Im sure it would be interesting read but it is banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los78 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 surely they can't have cut him off so quickly the media will often do that with nut cases like this... He spoke many times previously on BBC about last coup and protests before even before the cut off incident recently. Its a bit early to be calling a professor a nutcase dont you think especially when they are stating some facts which some Farang Thai political gurus fail to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Err, maybe its time to get reading glasses then..The book store WAS carrying it, then it got taken off for the reference to 'the king never smiles', then later again it was allowed to be had in stock after all. Sorry if i didn't keep up with all the comings and goings of it's availability precisely, because frankly it's not worth the effort. I read it after it became available for free online (presumably because it wasn't selling anyway)... and frankly, it was a waste of time, in my opinion. Marxism went out decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Mauberley Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 it was a waste of time, in my opinion. Marxism went out decades ago. What an impressive insight; it's always a joy to see closely argued political theory reduced to the status of a fashion parade. So is he a communist or just like to use the same type of language to promote his views? A communist you say? My God! Lock up your daughters! The anti-Christ himself has come to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younghusband Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 it was a waste of time, in my opinion. Marxism went out decades ago. What an impressive insight; it's always a joy to see closely argued political theory reduced to the status of a fashion parade. So is he a communist or just like to use the same type of language to promote his views? A communist you say? My God! Lock up your daughters! The anti-Christ himself has come to town. I take Giles with a pinch of salt and I just don't buy in to his agitprop ideology. Yet the the fact remains he is a courageous, intelligent and interesting commentator.At the moment, as someone put it on another forum, you could drive a bus between what is being said by Thais privately and what is being said publicly.Giles bridges this gap to some extent.In threads like this you will always get those who attack him.Pay them no notice because they are intellectually bankrupt. As for Marxism even those who reject it philosophically,not least because it was poisoned of course by the Russian and Chinese dictatorships, accept that it is often a useful and illuminated way of interpreting history.Hardly surprisung since Marx was a genius.Interestingly quite recently even Western commentators have accepted in light of recent events that Marx has useful insights on the dangers and excesses of unbridled capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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