Changing A Non O To A Non B Help Needed

[ste860]

the labour office have/are giving me a work permit,but they have said my non o visa needs changing to a type b visa,labour office say i need a form TM 86 and to goto imigration to fill it out and they will issue me with the b visa .

i have been to imigration this morning but they told me that i have to go to bangkok to do this is this so.or has anyone else had a similar problem and how do you get this done

thanks ste

[Mario2008]

Where are you applying and what is your non-O based on? Are you on an extension of stay? Pleae post if you want people to help you.

[ubonjoe]

What is the basis for your o-visa? If for marraige they should issue the work permit on it.

As far as going to Bangkok goes. Bangkok is turning people away and telling them to go to there local offices.

All immigration offices can do a change of visa. The only ones that can't are at borders, ports and such.

What office did you go to?

[Maestro]

An immigration office can make a change from a tourist visa or even from a visa-exempt entry to a non-immigrant visa if the applicant meets the conditions for annual extension, but it cannot make a change from one type of non-immigrant visa to another type of non-immigrant visa.

However, a person on an annual extension for one type of reason can apply for a new annual extension for another type of reason if he meets the conditions for the new reason.

As has already been pointed out, we do not know what type of permission to stay the OP has, whether it is a 90-day permission after entering with a non-O visa or an annual extension of stay and if so for what reason that extension was given.

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Maestro

[ste860]

sorry been running around all day trying to sort this

right my non o is a multi entry 12 month visa expires on 28 nov the imigration office was in hua hin,they told me to go to imigration in bk and they would change visa for me there,but others tell me you cant.my work permit is already okd its my non o thats the problem

[digitalchromakey]

sorry been running around all day trying to sort this

right my non o is a multi entry 12 month visa expires on 28 nov the imigration office was in hua hin,they told me to go to imigration in bk and they would change visa for me there,but others tell me you cant.my work permit is already okd its my non o thats the problem

Looks like you need to do a visa run with your WP3 receipt and the correct company papers, when you can get 90 day single entry non immigrant B.

Make sure Labour have it in writing that you are going on a visa run and need the WP3 application to be 'locked' awaiting your return with the B visa.

Three months later you can then go to KL with the WP plus all the correct papers and you should get a one year multiple entry non b.

[Mario2008]

You can apply for an extension of stay at immigration based on work on the show of your WP3 receipt. Strange that immigration doesn't want to give you an extension of stay based on that. Doesn't matter it is a non-O. They should know better. Is your non-O based on retirement perhaps? That could be the problem.

I would try Bangkok, but otherwise you are going to need to make a visa run. Keep in mind what Digitalchromakey said.

[ste860]

no my non o is not based on retirement im only 43 it is just a non o visa i got in hull,labour will not give me the permit until i get the visa issue sorted out,i took alll the right paper work to imigration ,,he checked it but said hua hin can not change it to a b,i have been told now to go to ranong and just do a visa run to get a thirty day .then on monday go to bkk and get a b visa there hope this works.labour have only give me until thursday or they will cancel the work permit

[Mario2008]

Doesn't make sense as all you need for a workpermit is a non-Immigrant visa, which you have. With a non-immigrant visa ou can pply for an extension of stay and change the reason of stay for exemple from being married to a Thai national to employment. But every Immigrantion office has it's own rules and I don't know about Hua Hin.

If you have a Thai friend maybe he/she can contact immigration and inquire what exactly the problem is. Alternatively you can ask a law firm to assist you in dealing with immigration.

If that doesn't work you can try to get an extension of stay at another local immigrtion office, don't go to bangkok as they only accept applications for an extension of stay from people living there. otherwise you would have to indulge immigration and go to the border.

[ste860]

mario this has been going on for two or three days now,i took a high ranking police man who i have known for a year or two with me today ,to see if he could help smooth things ,he was at uni with a few of the people at immigration . but they call the labour office and said they could not do it,im panicking

incase my w/p is now cancelled i have until friday to get the right visa

[digitalchromakey]

Doesn't make sense as all you need for a workpermit is a non-Immigrant visa, which you have. With a non-immigrant visa ou can pply for an extension of stay and change the reason of stay for exemple from being married to a Thai national to employment. But every Immigrantion office has it's own rules and I don't know about Hua Hin.

Mario: Most people who work for new or small companies find it nearly impossible to get an Extension of Permission to Stay based on business (606/2549 7.1). It is true that if you are a teacher in employment, then it is a relatively straight forward process to get an extension, but not with 7.1.

[digitalchromakey]

mario this has been going on for two or three days now,i took a high ranking police man who i have known for a year or two with me today ,to see if he could help smooth things ,he was at uni with a few of the people at immigration . but they call the labour office and said they could not do it,im panicking

incase my w/p is now cancelled i have until friday to get the right visa

Go to Labour - get your WP 'locked' - awaiting a visa; get the papers sorted and do a visa run.

[Mario2008]

Try another immigration office or indulge them and go to the border. Better even go abroad to a consulate and ask for a non-B there with your receipt for a WP and a company letter. Seems you did everything else you could do.

[Mario2008]

Doesn't make sense as all you need for a workpermit is a non-Immigrant visa, which you have. With a non-immigrant visa ou can pply for an extension of stay and change the reason of stay for exemple from being married to a Thai national to employment. But every Immigrantion office has it's own rules and I don't know about Hua Hin.

Mario: Most people who work for new or small companies find it nearly impossible to get an Extension of Permission to Stay based on business (606/2549 7.1). It is true that if you are a teacher in employment, then it is a relatively straight forward process to get an extension, but not with 7.1.

Agree with that, but it is not clear what kind of employment he has. Your explanation seems however the most logical and is in all likely hood what is going on here.

[ste860]

im going to ranong on sunday ,then monday going to bkk with a women who sorts out w/p and she says she is 100% sure my passport will have right stamps

[digitalchromakey]

im going to ranong on sunday ,then monday going to bkk with a women who sorts out w/p and she says she is 100% sure my passport will have right stamps

Good luck, not sure you will get what you need in BKK.

By the way - where have you applied for a WP? That is, which labour dept is giving you problems?

Please update the forum by posting your experiences.

[ste860]

got it sorted in the end guy at ranong thought i was a loony tune cancelling my non o to a 30 day transit visa,then bkk changed no questions asked to a non b so got everything i need now for my work permit

[digitalchromakey]

got it sorted in the end guy at ranong thought i was a loony tune cancelling my non o to a 30 day transit visa,then bkk changed no questions asked to a non b so got everything i need now for my work permit

When you wrote 'transit visa' did you mean to write 30 day Tourist Visa Exempt Entry?

[ste860]

got it sorted in the end guy at ranong thought i was a loony tune cancelling my non o to a 30 day transit visa,then bkk changed no questions asked to a non b so got everything i need now for my work permit

When you wrote 'transit visa' did you mean to write 30 day Tourist Visa Exempt Entry?

yes sorry if it as unclear just 30 day tourist visa, can you stay in thailand indefinatly just keep doing tourist visas ,i know its off topic ,buy a frind of mine seems to have been here for ever doing this ,i always thought you needed a non o to stay a long time.hes been here nearly two years on tourist visas

[Mario2008]

Yes, you can have as many tourist visas as you want, there is no official limit.

[Lite Beer]

Yes, you can have as many tourist visas as you want, there is no official limit.

You are of course correct but he seems to be getting confused with Tourist Visas and 30 day stamps.

ste860 Using the 30 day stamps you are talking about the limit is 90 days in a 6 month period.

As Mario said, a proper Visa obtained from a Consulate has no limits . Although some individual Consulates empose their own limits.

[ste860]

in that case all you have to do is go on a visa run to laos for eg get a double entry tourist visa for two months each which you can extend by 30 days eachgiving 6 months in total and keep doing this forever,it makes easy to stay for ever then if you can keep doing this

[Lite Beer]

in that case all you have to do is go on a visa run to laos for eg get a double entry tourist visa for two months each which you can extend by 30 days eachgiving 6 months in total and keep doing this forever,it makes easy to stay for ever then if you can keep doing this

Yes. Unless things change this is possible.