Dutch Suspect In Natalee Holloway Case Reported To Be In Bangkok

[LaoPo]

LATEST BREAKING NEWS:

9 minutes ago:

Joran van der Sloot has been arrested in Peru.

LaoPo

[anotheruser]

Seems like no matter how many chances he gets he just keeps begging to go away. You would think he would learn and keep it cool.

[powderpuff]

He is now a serial killer.

[anotheruser]

It seems so. Hopefully the Peruvian police have interrogation tactics that might get him to say once and for all what happened to the Holloway girl. Anybody have a link to about him being arrested? I only get he is a suspect when searching.

[LaoPo]

LATEST BREAKING NEWS:

9 minutes ago:

Joran van der Sloot has been arrested in Peru.

LaoPo

The news sources publish confusing stories.

The news above, that he was arrested came from a serious Dutch news source.

Another one however (and many more) claim that Van der Sloot has fled to Chili but many news messages are speculating messages.

LaoPo

[anotheruser]

I checked Fox news if nothing else for the reason that when this story broke years ago they obsessed about it for nearly a year. They are only reporting he is a suspect and thought to be in Chile.

I am thinking it is going to be pretty hard for him to hide as he must stick out like a sore thumb there.

[LaoPo]

Jun 02, 2010

Dutchman linked to Natalee Holloway case is suspect in Peru killing

Peruvian police say Joran van der Sloot, the Dutchman arrested in connection with the Natalee Holloway case in Aruba, is a suspect in the killing of a Peruvian woman, the Associated Press reports.

Chief of detectives Col. Miguel Canlla says police are seeking van der Sloot in the Sunday killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel.

Holloway, an Alabama teen, disappeared in Aruba in 2005.

Update at 2:23 p.m. ET: The girl's father, Ricardo Flores, says van der Sloot appears with her in video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday, the AP reports.

Police say they are seeking to confirm van der Sloot's identity with the Dutch Embassy. It refused to comment to the Associated Press.

Peruvian immigration officials say van der Sloot departed Peru on Monday. Canlla says Peru is asking Chilean authorities for help in the case.

Update at 2:34 p.m. ET: Ricardo Flores, father of the victim, said she was killed about 8 a.m. Sunday in a hotel room that was splattered with blood, indicating a struggle.

From:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/on...-peru-killing/1

LaoPo

[anotheruser]

Thanks for the link. He will be wishing he was doing his time back in Aruba as I can't imagine Peruvian prison conditions will be very nice for a snotty, little, white boy.

[souvenirdeparis]

It never ceases to amaze me how so many bad apples end up here in Thailand. The immgration officials might want to start googling names so they know who they are letting in the country.

That, Scott, is not such a bad idea...... & taken a few steps further could at least put flags up on possible ID's of people that should probably not be welcomed into the country

however...

Mistaken identity (just check out how many John Williams are in any phone book) could be a problem.

someone had trouble and couldn't board a flight in Canada a few years ago because he had dubious activities according to ... google or wiki... that the customs had searched... which was not true, and there was nothing the matter with him, just a false info on the web.

and in UK, lots of problems for people who share a name with a child abuser.

I hope they have better than google ! just imagine, your ex could hoax about you , your jealous neighbour, your mother in law ! just to get you into trouble while you're abroad !

[Spee]

He is now a serial killer.

Yeah, I'm with you. When all is said and done, I suspect they will pin not only the Aruba and Peru murders on him, but many others in many other countries as well. This individual is an evil societal deviant with a propensity towards violent domination of females who are submissive by personality or because he has drugged them into submission. I hope he goes down hard and winds up in a country with the most violent and severe prison system.

[LaoPo]

From the website of Peter R. de Vries, a famous Dutch Crime Reporter who exposed Joran van der Sloot in the Natalee Holloway "disappearance" on Aruba island in the Caribbean.

Peter R. de Vries also caught Van der Sloot when he was -allegedly- preparing a prostitute "trade set-up" in Bangkok in order to have the girls travel to The Netherlands.

Translation from Dutch into English:

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT MENTIONED IN PERUVIAN MURDERCASE

Joran van der Sloot is internationally sought in connection with the violent death of a young woman from Peru.

Van der Sloot would have been be doing a tour in South America and last Friday during a casino visit in the Peruvian capital Lima, he met the 21-year-old Stephany Flores.

He would have left that night with her, whereupon the woman vanished without trace. T

heir togetherness was recorded by security cameras.

When Stephany, the daughter of a locally known businessman and racing driver, didn't come home the following day, the Peruvian police were initially thinking of a kidnapping.

Hotelroom

Only five days later it showed that this was not the case.

Stephany's dead body was found Wednesday morning in a room of a hotel in the district Miaflores in Lima. The victim was killed by knife stabbings . The hotel room was in the name of Joran van der Sloot.

Reports that Van der Sloot would have been arrested are denied by the Aruban police sources.

Peruvian newspapers reported that the victim, like Joran, gambled rather intensively.

It is assumed that Joran traveled overland to Chile on last Sunday.

Joran traveled by plane on May 14th from Colombia to Peru. His final destination was supposedly Argentina.

Peter R. de Vries responds from abroad with concern about the reports.

"We do have to wait and see what the exact facts are, but as I hear it now, there are striking similarities with the case of Natalee Holloway.

There too it was a young girl he met in the casino and surveillance cameras play a major role.

On the one hand I find it shocking what has come out, but on the other hand, I am not really surprised.

In recent years, during our study of Van der Sloot, amongst each other, we have often expressed great concern that his name, in one way or another would pop up once more in connection with a crime.

Especially after we caught Joran in Thailand trying to set up a trade in prostitutes. "

From: http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/joran-v...peruaanse-zaak/

LaoPo

[LaoPo]

He is now a serial killer.

Yeah, I'm with you. When all is said and done, I suspect they will pin not only the Aruba and Peru murders on him, but many others in many other countries as well. This individual is an evil societal deviant with a propensity towards violent domination of females who are submissive by personality or because he has drugged them into submission. I hope he goes down hard and winds up in a country with the most violent and severe prison system.

I think we should be careful here and put the facts into perspective :

1. Joran van der Sloot is not a convicted murderer/killer.

I know everyone is convinced that he knew what happened with/to Natalee Holloway when she disappeared but nothing has ever been proven and her body was never found.

Even Peter R. de Vries (the Crime Reporter in the Natalee Holloway case) isn't sure if she was murdered (he doesn't think so!) and it is thought that she died accidentally, possibly by a combination of drugs and alcohol (over dosis) after which Van der Sloot panicked and got rid of her body.

But, this is pure theory since nobody knows but -likely- Joran van der Sloot (and one or more accomplishes).

However, it has been proven that he is a compulsive liar of the worst kind.

2. In the Peru murder he's a suspect but, of course, he's in bad trouble since he left the hotel room -his hotel room- where the girl was found murdered and is now somewhere in South America*

3. As far as I know, Van der Sloot has not been linked to other disappearances or murders.

* That this happened in South America is definitely not in his favor.....the prisons in that part of the world are not too comfortable so I heard....

LaoPo

[tracer5050]

He now being looked for by the police on a murder in Peru. Hard for him to be in two places at one time. But any way I hope someone gets his little spoiled ass.

[sokal]

He is now a serial killer.

Yeah, I'm with you. When all is said and done, I suspect they will pin not only the Aruba and Peru murders on him, but many others in many other countries as well. This individual is an evil societal deviant with a propensity towards violent domination of females who are submissive by personality or because he has drugged them into submission. I hope he goes down hard and winds up in a country with the most violent and severe prison system.

I think we should be careful here and put the facts into perspective :

1. Joran van der Sloot is not a convicted murderer/killer.

I know everyone is convinced that he knew what happened with/to Natalee Holloway when she disappeared but nothing has ever been proven and her body was never found.

Even Peter R. de Vries (the Crime Reporter in the Natalee Holloway case) isn't sure if she was murdered (he doesn't think so!) and it is thought that she died accidentally, possibly by a combination of drugs and alcohol (over dosis) after which Van der Sloot panicked and got rid of her body.

But, this is pure theory since nobody knows but -likely- Joran van der Sloot (and one or more accomplishes).

However, it has been proven that he is a compulsive liar of the worst kind.

2. In the Peru murder he's a suspect but, of course, he's in bad trouble since he left the hotel room -his hotel room- where the girl was found murdered and is now somewhere in South America*

3. As far as I know, Van der Sloot has not been linked to other disappearances or murders.

* That this happened in South America is definitely not in his favor.....the prisons in that part of the world are not too comfortable so I heard....

LaoPo

How stupid can Vandersloot really be ? He might have evidence himself that proves his innocents but why would he use it ?

Look at all the fun this guy is having with the media world wide. If he was guilty he would probably lay low but because he is innocent he just plays chicken with the media. Soon enough he will get a reality TV offer, then he will write a book.

[basjke]

He is now a serial killer.

Yeah, I'm with you. When all is said and done, I suspect they will pin not only the Aruba and Peru murders on him, but many others in many other countries as well. This individual is an evil societal deviant with a propensity towards violent domination of females who are submissive by personality or because he has drugged them into submission. I hope he goes down hard and winds up in a country with the most violent and severe prison system.

I think we should be careful here and put the facts into perspective :

1. Joran van der Sloot is not a convicted murderer/killer.

I know everyone is convinced that he knew what happened with/to Natalee Holloway when she disappeared but nothing has ever been proven and her body was never found.

Even Peter R. de Vries (the Crime Reporter in the Natalee Holloway case) isn't sure if she was murdered (he doesn't think so!) and it is thought that she died accidentally, possibly by a combination of drugs and alcohol (over dosis) after which Van der Sloot panicked and got rid of her body.

But, this is pure theory since nobody knows but -likely- Joran van der Sloot (and one or more accomplishes).

However, it has been proven that he is a compulsive liar of the worst kind.

2. In the Peru murder he's a suspect but, of course, he's in bad trouble since he left the hotel room -his hotel room- where the girl was found murdered and is now somewhere in South America*

3. As far as I know, Van der Sloot has not been linked to other disappearances or murders.

* That this happened in South America is definitely not in his favor.....the prisons in that part of the world are not too comfortable so I heard....

LaoPo

How stupid can Vandersloot really be ? He might have evidence himself that proves his innocents but why would he use it ?

Look at all the fun this guy is having with the media world wide. If he was guilty he would probably lay low but because he is innocent he just plays chicken with the media. Soon enough he will get a reality TV offer, then he will write a book.

You might be right.Soon he will be in front of the cameras.Interrogation cameras that is.

[webfact]

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[LomSak27]

sorry I haven't read all the posts - BUT didn't the perp have a coffee shop in Rangsit ?

[LaoPo]

sorry I haven't read all the posts - BUT didn't the perp have a coffee shop in Rangsit ?

It was mentioned he had but if it was a fact...?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dutch-Suspec...37#entry3063037

LaoPo

[LomSak27]

Thanks, I knew I had seen that picture and sure enough have a copy in My Pictures ... but couldn't locate the thread. I have no idea if its a fact, although I have to admit one time months back while in a traffic snarl we were looking for Sawadee Restaurant coffee, never did catch site of it though.

[sirchai]

I hope they catch that asshol_e soon.

Hate people who give all of us a bad name. Here's the guy.

[Scott]

Two posts deleted. One was nonsensical and another quoted a post which was deleted for violating forum rules.

Please take care in your posts.

[JUDAS]

I hope they catch that asshol_e soon.

Hate people who give all of us a bad name. Here's the guy.

Why would the actions of this guy give "all of us" a bad name? Should we all be feeling some sort of collective guilt?

[zigistar]

I hope they catch that asshol_e soon.

Hate people who give all of us a bad name. Here's the guy.

Why would the actions of this guy give "all of us" a bad name? Should we all be feeling some sort of collective guilt?

I geuss you didnt read much about this guy in the past......most prob murdered the girl in Aruba......after that he lived in Thailand and did try to set up a Thai-Dutch prostitution network where he was admiting that he was gone lure the girls to Holland with the promisses to get a model-job......Now he most prob killed a girl in Peru while he was there for playing a pokertournement.....sounds like the perfect expat to me or maybe not....

Note that i didn't say he did it altough my strong believe is that the chances are huge he guilty in both murders but thats just my personal opinion and is not important in this discussion.

I think the bolt part is what the poster means.

[zigistar]

NOT sure this is true...coward seems to have killed himself

http://todaystoptrends.com/joran-van...r-suicide.html

[Alwaysright]

I hope they catch that asshol_e soon.

Then how did he just commit a murder in South America and is on the run in Chile as I type?

[zigistar]

I hope they catch that asshol_e soon.

Then how did he just commit a murder in South America and is on the run in Chile as I type?

OMG please tell me your trolling and if you are not i hope your I.Q is lower then 70 that would be the only reason not to ROFL

Little tip for you take a look at Google-earth i think you need it.....not gone start with quoting city's because that gone be way to much to handle for you.I am sure you know where Pattaya is tough.

[LaoPo]

NOT sure this is true...coward seems to have killed himself

http://todaystoptrends.com/joran-van...r-suicide.html

Thanks for sending me a PM.

There's no news in other media that Joran van der Sloot would have killed himself.

Two taxi drivers from Peru have stated that they drove Joran across the border with Peru into Chili near the city of Arica*. This is a very remote and desert like area with only a few roads leading into Chili.

BUT: as said, this area in North Chili is extremely remote and desert country with only a few back roads and not easy to survive in this kind of rural area.

This was last Monday.

The police in Chili are searching every hostel, hotel, guest house and other possible venues he could be hiding in the Northern Area of Chili, but, it's Thursday already and he's probably not in that area anymore although some police sources say he's still in/around Arica/Chili.

Traveling from the north in Chili into Argentina would have meant traveling a very long way (many hundreds of kms/miles) in Chili itself before entering a Argentinean border.

According to the latest report from Holland, the autopsy report in Peru says that the cause of the girl's death was beating. She's beaten to death:

Translated from Dutch into English; source: http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/6854657...land,buitenland

De Telegraaf - Holland:

"According to the report, the deceased woman had injuries to the brains,

head and neck, reports the newspaper El Comercio. The daughter of Peruvian

businessman and racing driver Richardo Flores also had several bleeding wounds

on her body."

Peruvian media write about a fight between Joran van der Sloot and the

student girl. Joran would have given Stephany multiple blows to her head

until she lost consciousness.

Joran probably acknowledged by telephone, earlier this week, that he

is guilty of the murder of 21-year-old woman last Sunday in a

hotel room in Peru."

According to Chilean police Joran is currently still in the

Arica - Chile , where he has traveled to on last Monday.

Joran van der Sloot paid two Peruvian brothers almost 1800 Peruvian Soles

(over € 500 ) to transport him from Peru to Chile.

* http://maps.google.nl/maps?utm_campaign=nl...m=google%20maps

LaoPo

[JUDAS]

I hope they catch that asshol_e soon.

Hate people who give all of us a bad name. Here's the guy.

Why would the actions of this guy give "all of us" a bad name? Should we all be feeling some sort of collective guilt?

I geuss you didnt read much about this guy in the past......most prob murdered the girl in Aruba......after that he lived in Thailand and did try to set up a Thai-Dutch prostitution network where he was admiting that he was gone lure the girls to Holland with the promisses to get a model-job......Now he most prob killed a girl in Peru while he was there for playing a pokertournement.....sounds like the perfect expat to me or maybe not....

Note that i didn't say he did it altough my strong believe is that the chances are huge he guilty in both murders but thats just my personal opinion and is not important in this discussion.

I think the bolt part is what the poster means.

I have read quite a bit about this character and obviously deserves everything he gets if guilty. The point I'm making, which seems to be made regularly on TV, is that somehow his actions reflect on the rest of us (westerners etc ) living here. If a Thai person commits a horrific crime I do not view that as an indictment on all Thai people but purely as the action of an individual. I judge people as I find them, the actions of one does not colour my view of an entire nationality and I don't believe the vast majority of Thai people I know are any different.

Just wanted to be clear on what I posted earlier.

[WarpSpeed]

Update: Obviously not, they just captured him in Chile..

Edited June 3, 2010 by WarpSpeed

[LaoPo]

THEY GOT HIM - news from a few minutes ago.

Joran van der Sloot has been arrested by the Chilean police close to Vina del Mar*, a distance of more than 2,500 km from Arica on the Chili/Peru border, where he was was dropped off earlier on last Monday after a taxi ride of more than 1,300 km.

Joran was traveling in a Chilean taxi.

It appears that there was not yet an international search warrant because international police feared that if he would be caught in Chili (which is the case now) the process of exchanging him back to Peru could have taken many months, if not longer.

Now, the Chili authorities have the possibility to extradite him as an unwanted person; ie, not charged yet within Chilean borders.

The police will give a press conference in a few minutes and, most likely, "accompany" him back to the Peruvian border where he will be handed over to the Peruvian Police.

* Hope this link is OK:

http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&source=...ie=UTF8&z=5

LaoPo

Edited June 3, 2010 by LaoPo