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just to recap, there is HD Ready and Full HD on the market. The difference lies in the resolution:

HD Ready = 1366 x 768 pixel

Full HD = 1920 x 1080 pixel

Scam #1 at Home Works, South Pattaya.

I ask for a 42" Full HD Set. Sales guy shows me one unit, I connect my laptop, it works. I say thank, you, show interest but still have to check other shops. No problem says the sales guy and puts the 40" sticker back on. I was looking at a 40", not 42" set.

Scam #2 at Numchai, Sukhumvit

I truly believe that was not a scam from the sales guy, but by Phillips. Full HD it says on the price tag, but can display only HD ready. Basically they have two identical sets next to each other, one HD ready at 30,000, and the other one also HD ready but in fact it's not at 45,000 (as special offer down form 50k)...

I guess most cstomers would not notice as there is no such thing as Full HD TV. For me it makes a difference as I need it to watch videos from my computer only and then the big resolution comes in handy...

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Rule #1 ... never trust a sales man, especially in Thailand. Do your own research ...

There is no Full HD TV? Well, I am looking at one now in front of me. A 1920x1080 resolution Samsung monitor with an antenna input (So that basically makes it a TV).

Furthermore, it's not only the Ready of Full HD (or size) which creates price differences between models. Also consider other features such as contrast ratio etc.

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For me it makes a difference as I need it to watch videos from my computer only and then the big resolution comes in handy...

only if you play blue ray media right?

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Rule #1 ... never trust a sales man, especially in Thailand. Do your own research ...

There is no Full HD TV? Well, I am looking at one now in front of me. A 1920x1080 resolution Samsung monitor with an antenna input (So that basically makes it a TV).

Furthermore, it's not only the Ready of Full HD (or size) which creates price differences between models. Also consider other features such as contrast ratio etc.

And what Full HD resolution content is broadcast in Thailand ??

I have seen them in the electronics shop in Tesco Lotus slap Full HD promo labels from a sold set, onto a HD ready set.. When I tried to point out they cant do that, its false advertising they didnt even seem to comprehend the difference between the 2 designations, I am fairly sure it wasnt sales technique just sales staff with no concept of what any of these english signs meant.

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For me it makes a difference as I need it to watch videos from my computer only and then the big resolution comes in handy...

only if you play blue ray media right?

For sure a movie looks better on a 1024 x 768 monitor than on a 640 x 480 monitor. You think this doesn't apply to SD movies on 1366 x 768 montor compared to 1920 x 1080 monitor?

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QUOTE (Sel @ 2009-01-27 15:16:42) *

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For me it makes a difference as I need it to watch videos from my computer only and then the big resolution comes in handy...

only if you play blue ray media right?

For sure a movie looks better on a 1024 x 768 monitor than on a 640 x 480 monitor. You think this doesn't apply to SD movies on 1366 x 768 montor compared to 1920 x 1080 monitor?

I would of thought if you used lower quality media (DVD) and played it back on high quality display that it would still be low quality whereas if you used high quality (Blue Ray) that you would actually get high quality on a high quality display. Or does using a computer as a player 'upsample' the low quality to high quality?

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For me it makes a difference as I need it to watch videos from my computer only and then the big resolution comes in handy...

only if you play blue ray media right?

not only this...you can watch a movie and still enough screen space to chat on skype

Posted

Hi :o

From what i've read "HD Ready" means that the screen (LCD or Plasma) is able to correctly display the full resolution of HD (for example from a computer or HD player such as Blu-Ray), while a "Full HD" set also includes a receiver able to receive/decode HD-TV signals. This receiver is missing in "HD-Ready" sets but in some of them it can be added (at extra cost of course).

But then i might be wrong.

Regards.....

Thanh

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Hi :o

From what i've read "HD Ready" means that the screen (LCD or Plasma) is able to correctly display the full resolution of HD (for example from a computer or HD player such as Blu-Ray), while a "Full HD" set also includes a receiver able to receive/decode HD-TV signals. This receiver is missing in "HD-Ready" sets but in some of them it can be added (at extra cost of course).

But then i might be wrong.

Regards.....

Thanh

No thats not really it..

HD Ready means it will take a High Def signal.. And display it by downconverting it (or upconverting for 720p) to its panel res..

Full HD means its a 1920x1080 panel and can display all consumer Hidef without downconversions.

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HD Ready means it will take a High Def signal.. And display it by downconverting it (or upconverting for 720p) to its panel res..

Full HD means its a 1920x1080 panel and can display all consumer Hidef without downconversions.

That's a good explaination, however both 'HD Ready' and 'Full HD' are only marketing terms and their definitions aren't set in stone. HD Ready TV sets should display 1080 'interlaced' lines or 720 'progressive' lines of resolution, while 'Full HD' sets should ideally display 1080 progressive lines of resolution, although some manufacturers would make the 'Full HD' claim on a set that display has 1080 lines and it can show a 1080i image at its native resolution. That's why I don't think that the scam 2 was really a scam...

Scam #2 at Numchai, Sukhumvit

I truly believe that was not a scam from the sales guy, but by Phillips. Full HD it says on the price tag, but can display only HD ready

The displays on all LCD TVs is progressive, they don't display interlaced resolution. This TV wasn't misleading per se as it could display 720p which is the current HD standard and it could meet (by some definition) the 'Full HD' standard, although 'LivinLOS' is correct to point out that some HD content would possibly need to be downscaled when displayed through this TV. This is the source of the confusion as any TV set with 720 lines of resolution could be labelled 'Full HD' - indeed many sets labelled Full HD don't meet the standards described by LivinLOS:

Full HD means its a 1920x1080 panel

Whether any human can tell the difference between 1080p and 720p from a distance of more than a foot away from the screen is another matter, the screen would likely need to be much larger than 42" for the difference to become apparent to most people. That's why I'm quite cynical about the use of these marketing terms - they are just a way of selling more TVs.

The minimum requirement for a TV to meet 'HD Ready' standard could be as low as 480 lines of resolution, but in LOS would likely be 540lines of resolution on an old CRT TV, like the Samsung Slimfit 32" sets before they were phased out. Those could meet 1080i standard by interlacing (all CRTs interlace) the signal (whether 1080i or 720p) which means it alternated by displaying half the picture (540 lines) and then the other half.

The best advice when buying any TV is to try to watch the content on it that you will be watching if you buy it. Literally take your XBOX 360, PS3 or Blu-ray player to the shop if you can and see which TV it looks best on. Granted that may not be possible.

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Hi :o

Thanks for the explanation - appears this is defined depending on region/country - i quote that Wiki:

"In the USA, "HD Ready" refers to any display that is capable of accepting and displaying a high-definition signal at either 720p, 1080i or 1080p using a component video or digital input, and does not have a built-in HD-capable tuner."

At least i wasn't ALL wrong :D

Kind regards.....

Thanh

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The best advice when buying any TV is to try to watch the content on it that you will be watching if you buy it. Literally take your XBOX 360, PS3 or Blu-ray player to the shop if you can and see which TV it looks best on. Granted that may not be possible.

It is possible and that is exactly what I did. took my laptop with me, connected it to the various sets to see the difference. I use the TV set as a computer monitor anyways and then the difference in resolution is huge. It is minor when watching a movie, even if it is a good quality DVD. Never tried any blue ray as I don't have a player for that and the standard DVD quality is good enough for my old eyes.

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